Ever been in a haunted building?

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I've been inside the Winchester Mystery House in S.J. a couple of times. It's open for tours. They restored it a few years ago. It's almost too comercial now. I liked better when it was kind of run down. That lady was nuts!

And then their's Alcatraz. Now that place is spooky. But again, guided tours take some of the fun out of it. Very interesting place, though.

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I don't know if it was haunted or not, but I don't know what else to call it. The first house I bought had a "room". The dog would sit outside it and growl. It was the guest room and in the morning I always found the guest sleeping on the living room couch instead of the guest room where I left them. They felt too uncomfortable in there. There are many other things that I don't like talking about or people start questioning my sanity. I don't get offended because I would question it too - if I hadn't lived through it. To make a long story short, you know when you see a movie about a haunted house and in the back of your mind you wonder why the people don't just move out? We sold the house just 3 months after buying it and later found out it had a history of people moving in and out. It was also a major turning point in my life that turned a non-believer into a strong Christian.

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I'd be interested to read any experiences you're comfortable sharing. I don't think anyone will make fun of you. There's a lot of literature out there about this kind of thing.

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I was in a music video for a band called Rock Kills Kid. We filmed in an old, abandoned hospital in/around downtown los angeles. The areas with people weren't bad, but there was this staircase that I went down ... which led into a basement. All the hair on the back on my neck and arms stood straight up, then I was completely overcome with a feeling of dread ...

I went back up the stairs and was fine after that. But geeze, that place was crazy.

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Shot a cheapo movie in the basement of a very old building that was being used for storage. It had a creepy look to it (which was why we were filming there) but I did not feel any dread etc.

However, at one point during a break in filming, I got a feeling in my right forearm like I had been hit by a pebble at very high speed (felt like a bug hitting me while on the highway with my motorcycle). I naturally looked around to see if someone threw something at me, but there was no one around at the time. I sort of shrugged it off, but less than an hour later, another actor had the same thing happen except to the back of his neck. I saw him walk by and the jump and grab his neck. He thought the same thing, that someone threw something at him. I told him what I felt earlier and he said that it was the same feeling. Rather odd.

DRobbins...would love to hear your stories. I have one of my own that I tend to keep to myself.

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OK ghost stories or the like....how about this...

A bunch of my friends went out drinking. We then decided to bar hop and set out in 2 cars. We had to pass through a street known for strange occurrences called Balite drive. We always drive through there during daytime but at night, u better be speeding pass thru or u'll pick up an unwanted passenger. So 1st car goes in but our driver happens to have had more alcohol than expected so we switched drivers. We were only supposed to be about 5 minutes behind the first car. When we get to the other end we found the 1st car sitting there with its passengers with strange looks on their faces. They said they waited on the other end for 20 minutes (like we always do...place is quite known), then double backed, didn't see us and then went to the other side again. Take note this is just a 2 lane road, before the time of cellphones.
We just laughed the whole thing off thinking its just the booze taking effect. But then again, ur gonna think, who got "punked", them or us?

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This was back around 1983 or so and I had just gotten married (first wife). We bought a first house and it was in a "ok" area of town and needed work. That was part of the plan to get a house and fix it up. Keep in mind that neither of us believed that ghosts, spirits, etc. really existed. It was a 3 bedroom, 1 bath rancher. The 3 bedrooms were in a row with the bath at the end of the hall just outside the living room.

We moved in and set up "house" with me working during the day and her staying home doing the domestic stuff and we got a puppy. I started working on the house so we used the master bedroom, I worked on the third one and the second (middle) one was our guest room with unpacked boxes in it also. It needed the least of the work as far as repairs went. But there was this rectangular patch in the wall that someone did a terrible job fixing.

When I came home from work and talked about things that happened during the day, my wife would tell me that the puppy would sit in the hall and growl at that room. I didn't think much about it. Maybe there was a fly on the wall that she didn't see. Then one Saturday I saw him growling. I went to see what he was up to and I couldn't fine any reason why he was growling, but he was very intense about it.

Being as we were one of the first couples in our friends groups to have our own place, we entertained often. Many times guests would stay over and we would give them the guest room. In the morning we would find them on the couch. When asked why, they all replied that they were uneasy in that room.

Back to that patch on the wall. Looking back in retrospect, every time I was going to work on it, it was a different size than I remembered it. If I had a little time to do something, I would say that's a quick job. But when I went in, what was I thinking? that's a all day project. Then the weekend would be here and I would think I will get started on that big project. Then when I went in, what was I thinking, I can knock that out in an evening.

Now for a few weeks we were almost sure that other people had been in our house while we were out. Being as we just bought the place I thought that extra keys might be about so I changed the locks. We were so paranoid that I would put things on the inside of closed doors so if the door was opened the item would move. We never found any of those items moved, but we were sure that someone was still getting into our house. Things were not where we remembered leaving them.


One day after some crazy events all night that I am still try to figure out and put into words, (I will post later when I get home from work) My wife and I started thinking maybe the place has a ghost. We both nervously looked into the room. Nothing noticeable was different. We went to the kitchen to eat breakfast and we heard a noise coming from that room. She looked at me with the "did you hear that" expression and we both looked under that table at once to see that the dog was by our feet. We went to the room and saw that an item had moved clear across the room from where we both remembered it being a few moments before. We decided at that moment to sell the house at no matter the financial loss.

Even now over 20 years after this happened, while I am typing my heart is racing, my nerves are shaky and I have goosebumps all over.

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Great stories, Dave. I'd love to hear more.

I had a girlfriend in high school who lived in an old (100+ year old) farm house. It had been in the family for generations. In the earlier days there had even been funerals/viewings held there for family members.

Anyway, I spent a lot of late evenings there and I experienced my share of unexplained noises and happenings. There was also one room there that you just felt very weird being in. Not an evil feeling, but just one of not being alone, which is creepy.

I remember one evening we were all around the dining room table. We heard what sounded like footsteps upstairs. The only problem was all of us were at the table. We glanced over and their two dogs were sleeping nearby.

Of course the family had plenty of stories from living there over the years. My girlfriend would talk about occasionally seeing a lady in white pass down the upstairs hallway at night. And more than once, when she was younger, asked her mother who the lady in white was who had sat on her bed at night. That story really creeped me out!

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I haven't had anything unexplainable happen to me, but the creepiest thing I can think of is when the girl who sat behind me in class, whom I didn't even know, said to me, "You want me to take you to the graveyard where Satanists bury sacrificed babies?" Now, maybe she was nervous and just blurted out the first crazy thought that came to mind--"Flick says he saw some grizzly bears near Polaski's candy store!"--but I was certainly not the person who was going to be responsive to that at all.

A friend of mine claims he had some encounters when he was in his "prayer warriors" phase. He woke up one night and was paralyzed and couldn't breathe because something heavy was sitting on his chest. All he could see was a shadow darker than the rest of the room above him. Kind of sounds like what are known as night terrors. Another night, some weird shit was happening--I don't remember the details--but he said he saw these "things" disappear as shadows. He told me this in about '88 or '89. A year later, he was in the theater watching Ghost, and about freaked out when the scene where the spirits take Willie looked exactly like what he saw. To this day, he'll tell you that "the movie people got it right!"

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When we moved into the house our relationship went down hill. Both of us were irritable and short tempered. It got to the point that she left. It was one of those times that you could write a good country song about. Literally - fixing up a house, pick up truck broke down, laid-off from work, wife left, and she took the dog with her and none of our "good time buddies" came by anymore. I was left with nothing to do and nothing to do it with. Now I knew a lot of church going people and also many devil worshipers. I didn't believe in any of it and I thought when you died, that was it. But at this point I was wondering about the whole afterlife thing. Are there ghosts? Is there a spirit in my house?

So I thought I would do some research and started reading the bible. After doing some reading I thought I would give this a try and I started fasting. I did not eat anything except for a vitamin and drink water for a week. In Mt Holly, NJ there is a outside stone church on top of the "mount". I started to walk up there to pray daily. I had no idea of where my wife was (no cell phones yet) so I asked for a sign if she would be coming back. On the way down I found one of our blankets spread out on the grass. I knew it was ours and not a similar one by the corner that the puppy chewed up. So I brought it back home.

The next day the guy who was my best man at the wedding dropped by. He said that he ran into my (ex)wife at the shore and after speaking with her, he came to tell me that she wasn't coming back. I told him that was nonsense because I found the blanket today. So I started eating again.

The next day after that, she called me and asked if I would come and get her. She was down the shore. We had a good chat and it seemed that we could work things out. This is when we really started putting the pieces together about the whole guest room thing and really wondered if there is a spirit in the house. We also noted how we both had done many things "out of character" and wondered if the ghost could have been playing with us. She asked if I was surprised that she came back and i said no because I found the blanket and I showed it to her. Her jaw hit the floor and she got this look of mistrust in her eyes. She thought i had been following her around. She had left the blanket under the boardwalk. She also recognized it by the chew marks.

This is when things got weird. As we were talking things out, it started to seem like I wasn't talking to her anymore. I don't remember at what point I was convinced that I was talking to someone else, but I asked (I'l use wife as her name) "let me talk to wife" to which she replied "wife is not here!" At this time I couldn't believe what was happening. My logical mind was in denial and was trying to convince me that it wasn't happening. But there it was. No spinning heads or pea soup or anything. We stopped communicating verbally and it is hard to describe how we did. It was abstract through feelings and emotions. In a nut shell the spirit didn't want to move on. It was afraid and didn't trust where it was going. After a while of me trying to comfort it and let it know that it was alright to go, (in the back of my mind I was still scared to death also) it left. She turned and lit a cigarette and I said "wife is that you?" To which she replied "who do you think it is?" I was glad it was over and she was back.

We went to make breakfast and looked into the room as I mentioned earlier. In the junk, on the one side of the room by the patch in the wall was a (believe it or not) ventriloquist dummy that she had from when she was younger. On the other side of the room in the pile was a hand "paint by numbers" picture of Jesus on the cross that her grandmother painted. As we cooked breakfast I told her what I went through during the night. She didn't remember any of it and thought she slept the whole time. And she thought I lost it and was crazy. That is when we heard the noise from the other room. As I said the dog was at our feet. When we went in the dummy was across the room thrown up against the picture. That was the noise. At that point she believed what we went through.

We had enough. We put the house for sale and bought bus tickets for Washington DC to get away for a week. It was the 4th weekend and the Beach Boys were doing a free concert there.

Luckily the housing market was good at the time. The house sold quickly and with the repairs I did we walked away with about $300 profit. At least we didn't loose anything. To this day, I still don't fully comprehend what happened. I don't know that I ever will until after I die. I haven't told this story since the days after it happened. Everyone wanted to know what I was on, or thought I was crazy. As I said earlier, I would not believe it either if someone told me the story. I still have a hard time believing it.

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Sleep paralysis is a well-researched subject with no basis for thinking it's "paranormal":

Sleep Paralysis Page

Dave's anecdotes sound fun, but nothing like anything that would stand up to skeptical scrutiny.

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I know that nothing that I ever say or write will ever convince anyone of what happened. That's why I don't try or talk about it. But just for the sake of discussion, if you were going through life normally day to day and then something like I described happened to you, how would you get it to stand up to skeptical scrutiny?

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Dave, any chance your ex was bi-polar? Still, it doesn't explain physical objects moving. I don't think any of us here should question anything you are saying, simply by your history here you don't strike me as a kook. You have had an interesting experience to say the least, good reading.
I have never had anything like that but my wife was a nurse working on an oncology floor,where many of her patients were not to survive anyway, and one night walked into a patients room who had just passed away to retrieve something and turned to leave and felt and heard a puff of air on her neck as if someone was behind her blowing on her neck . She turned and of course no one was there, no AC vent, no prankster, she was alone. She had many other instances of "feelings" but never any more real than this.

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RobertR beat me too it. I suffer from this periodically. Used to scare the crap out of me as a kid as it feels like your being attacked. Now it's annoying


Catch 22 of ghost stories right? You can't prove it, skeptics can't either. My only question is, why didn't you knock a hole in that spot on the wall? It causing lazy feelings or whatever, if somethings throwing ventriloquist dummies into Jesus, I'm knocking a whole in that patch and having a look.

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The first thing I would do is conduct research on similar occurrences to what I experienced, and see what conventional explanations there are for them. For example, feelings of "dread", temperature changes, etc. are explained by this passage from the skeptic's dictionary:

The above-mentioned low frequency effects can affect one's mood, even if they are too low to be heard. If what I experienced can be explained by the research, there is no need to assume or reach for a "paranormal" explanation. If what I experienced cannot be explained by such research, then careful observation by trained skeptics would be needed. Note the importance of the two terms. "Believers" wouldn't make good observers for what should be obvious reasons. Knowing how to detect tricks, fraud, conventional explanations, etc. is what I mean by "trained". If the phenomenon never occurs under such controlled conditions, it's safe to say it doesn't pass skeptical muster.

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Robert,
I take it you have looked into these type of things before. Believe me I am skeptical about UFOs, Bigfoot, Trolls, etc... Ghosts used to be on that list also until this experience. I have a very inquisitive nature and I always want to know how things work or cause & effect relationships. I never take things at face value and that is one of the reasons why it took a while to even start thinking about a ghost in this instance. During this time, yes I questioned our frame of mind. Also If each of the events listed happened apart of each other, I could probably reason away some of it. Please also keep in mind that I wrote a very shortened version so I could fit into 3 postings the events that happened over 3 months. I believe also that many superstitions have a perfectly good scientific explanation that we just don't know about yet.

I would go down the path of the skeptic and look into the possible explanations if it were not for for that dummy moving across the room. Even as of that morning I was not convinced that ghosts exist until that happened. ( and obviously I could never prove that it did) As I posted when things were not where we left them, it did not even cross my mind that it could be a ghost. I thought someone was getting into my house. And as far a any mental issues, nothing like that happened to us before that house, and nothing has ever happened since, But the 3 months we lived there were full of these events.

I still am not totally convinced of a ghost, but I don't know what else to call it. In my life's experiences since then I have had proven to me that there is a God. If you or anyone else would like me to elaborate I can PM you so we don't tread on forum rules. So if one believes in the afterlife, it isn't far fetched to believe in spirits and ghosts. I am still interested in "logical" explanations though.

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Russell,
I was expecting you to visit. To answer your question, I didn't look at it as a ghost thing at the time. It was a remodeling project and I tried to schedule my work by the time I had available. It was never the "right time" for that size project. After the dummy went flying across the room, we moved out, and at that time I was also a little squeamish about finding a black trash bag in there with who knows what in it. Rather than confront the situation, I ignored it until it went away.

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thanks.... I think...

thats the yelling at the movie screen part of the story for me. "KNOCK A HOLE IN THE WALL!" You did the right thing though, in getting the f**k out before getting physically hurt... XD

Neat stories though. I wouldn't say they did or didn't happen. the dummy bit is freaky. I would flat out doubt the patch thing changing size though, mainly cause you said "looking back...". but again, creepy stuff regardless.

Anyone listen to "real" EVPs? I have to admit, as much of a skeptic as I am, they're creepy as hell on the radio at 2am on a dark night.

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Dave,

I've done a fair amount of reading on the subject, mostly from the pages of Skeptical Inquirer magazine. The thing is, these sorts of occurrences have been debunked so many times that something has to be very well documented to even take a good hard look at it. If I experienced what you did, it would certainly arouse my curiosity, but I wouldn't feel scared unless there was some physical danger involved.

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I beat you both to it when I acknowledge it sounded like sleep terrors.

Why can't this just be a fun thread without the need to poke holes in everything?

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A couple of points. First, one of the current psychological theories is that a great many reports of hauntings are due to very very low frequencies. Various laboratory studies have shown that people can hallucinate when exposed to very low frequency sound. Now as we all know, houses can creak and groan, but what isn't so well known is that some houses (particularly very old ones) will do this quite frequently at very low frequencies. I can't recall the reference for this study, but one done in England showed that supposedly haunted rooms in a couple of ancestral homes were also the epicentres of these very low frequency noises.

But if you want a bizarre case, try the following. I swear that everything in this is true. Back in the 1960s, some family friends bought a very old house (bits of it dated back to the Domesday Book). Shortly after they moved in, their daughter (about three years old) became seriously ill. And then things started happening. At first it was a banging sound on the ceiling. I was about eight or nine at the time and I can clearly recall being in the house when this happened on one occasion. It was like a large man was jumping up and down in one of the bedrooms above. The only snag was that everyone in the house was downstairs at the time, and there was no possible way anyone else could have got into the house, done this, and then got out.

Then things began to get weird.

At first, it was a simple matter of things seemingly moving from one place to another in the house. This was attributed, logically enough, to people being forgetful about moving something. But then the house owners and on at least two occasions visitors (including my mother) saw things slide along a mantelpiece, seemingly of their own accord.

Okay, now all of this could be due to settling in, subsidence, etc. And indeed this is what the owners attributed it to. I should explain at this point that they were intensely sceptical of a paranormal explanation. Until the last, final event. As I said, their daughter was seriously ill. One night, she started running a fever and was put to bed. Her parents had literally just gone downstairs from putting her to bed when there was the most enormous noise of banging from their daughter's room. They ran upstairs and found the daughter lying on the floor, and the bed tipped on its side with a sheet wrapped and tied round it. And straight after that, the daughter's fever broke. She recovered and there was never another incident in the house.

Years later when I became a psychology student and started reading about parapsychology I urged the family to contact a parapsychology expert. They absolutely refused. They've never talked about the incident except to close friends (and I'm only mentioning the event here because you guys have zero chance of identifying the people involved), and they still insist that it all has a rational explanation. I agree that everything can be explained up to the final episode, and if anyone can account for that then I'd really like to know.

Incidentally, the family still live in the house. In some cases of supposed parapsychological acts, folks behave fraudulently, either to gain attention or because they're unhappy where they are living and are desperately seeking an excuse for making a change. But neither of these explanations will serve here.

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Cool idea for a thread. I love old dilapidated houses situated out in the sticks or weeds. Oooooo,yeah. *hugs self and grins lustily* :p

I lived near the remains of an old baseball player's mansion in the 1970s/early-mid 1980s. You had to go through a stretch of woods from my house to get to it...or you had to drive a long narrow uphill street from the main highway, which we rode our bikes and motorcycles many many times. The mansion had burned down years before and was a pile of rubble but the servants quarters were still there. There was also a small miniature golf course off to the side that my best friend found under the weeds one day. I remember he wanted to fix that old thing up so we could play golf. Like playing miniature golf at ground zero. We played around that place throughout my teens. We climbed all around that servants building...in the attic, etc. But it never failed...I always got an eery feeling around that place. No hearing of voices or ghostly apparitions but my friend said he saw "colored lights" coming from it through the woods but I never believed him. I'd only go there alone if I had my big irish setter dog with me. There were a lot of wine bottle dumps in the woods around it...my dad felt the place had been used as a rehabilation facility for a time. Maybe some partying going on? No telling. Not sure how the place burned down but my guess is more than one person perished in those flames. We got caught after dark there once. Couldn't get out of there fast enough if you know what I mean. I'd love to visit that place again and see what has happened to it. Most likely someone bought the land. I'd kill to get it and build me a house there.

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Maybe we can meet and discuss some of our experiences?

How about meeting here... Welcome To The Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast

-Keith

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I have wanted to stay there for quite some time. That would be so cool.

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Radioman - visit it on GoogleEarth!

I can't say I've experienced anything, but my mom has a bunch of stories. She claims the house I grew up in was haunted (it was a 75+ year old place). She says on the first day we lived there there was a lot of noise coming from the attic above their room and she knew none of us were up there wandering around (late at night and we were all young and asleep). Over the years she would occasionally ask me if I had been up in the attic the night before (not usually, no) and I found out years later it was because she would hear footsteps pacing back and forth coming from there.

Eventually we all grew up and moved out and they sold the house. My parents were alone in the house on the last night and, again, she heard a loud racket coming from the attic even though it was empty. She said she called up to the ceiling and told the 'house' that she appreciated the warmth it supplied us over the years but they needed to move on and she hoped it would take good care of the next family, and the noise stopped. She said she believed the house was upset we were leaving.

I never heard footsteps up there but my room wasn't really under part of the attic. I did frequently hear a rapid ticking sound (not like a clock) coming from the corner of my room that I was never able to figure out where it was coming from. It'd creep me out and when I'd try to tell my dad he'd just yell at me to go to sleep.

I don't know how much of this I believe but I wish my mom had let me in on all this while I was growing up.

-paul

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I've taken the Cape May, NJ Ghost tour before, I've been to Alcatraz, but in normal life instances, I can't say I've ever been in a "haunted house" unknowingly.

Jay

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Holy shhhhh...! It's still there!!

Is there any way to post a location? I'm at work but later I'll do screen grabs and post pictures so everyone will know I'm not full of bull.

Could be Ty Cobb's family hasn't bothered with the land. Although, my mom and dad told me that side of town is crime-ridden...I'd given thought to buying our old house. The long road (called Tidewater) has nearly disappeared but you can see . The servants quarters is a pile of rubble now too. But you can clearly see the outline of the old mansion and the walkway and steps leading up to it. Only thing I don't see if the minature golf course but I'd bet $5000 it's under the weeds again. I used to play all around that area. The woods are mostly gone with subdivisions all over the place. That's sad because it looks like skin cancer on those great woods that used to be there. I know time (progress?) does that. Some of the old trails I used to endlessly ride my dirt bike on (with my long dead beloved irish setter trailing behind me) are STILL THERE! I'm elated to have seen this again. I can't thank you enough Paul. You da man!

Pictures later!!

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Wow, a dog ghost story too!

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Lots of people have told me over the years that they all thought the house I grew up in was haunted. It was old and run-down looking and creaky. The basement was dark and musty. But I never saw any ghosts or heard anything unusual.

There was a small bedroom upstairs. My parents had 12 children and about half of us had been put in the front room as toddlers, then moved out as we got bigger to make room for the next toddler. When I was a teenager my mother told me a strange story. She said that my youngest sister had woken up in the middle of the night crying, and my mother asked her what was wrong, and she said a man with a tall hat was leaning over her crib looking down at her. My mother thought this was very strange because she said each of the kids who had been sleeping in that room had said the same thing at some point: there was a man with a tall hat staring down at them. She had never told anyone about it because she didn't want to scare anyone.

When my mother told me this story, I know it sounds like a cliche from a bad horror novel, but the hairs on the back of my neck went up. Suddenly I was flashing back to the time I was a toddler in that room, and I realized I was remembering the same thing had happened to me, but I had suppressed the memory. I can still picture exactly how that man with the tall hat looked, more of a shadow than a person, and the memory still gives me the creeps.

As a grownup I wonder what was really happening. One of my theories is that the man with the tall hat was really just my dad checking in on me in the middle of the night, but he didn't wear a tall hat so that explanation doesn't work 100%. But maybe the hat can be explained by the shadowy nature of the room. If the lighting and shadows were right, maybe a person would look like they were wearing a hat. Of course the ghost-story explanation would be easier: the tall hat is because it was someone from the early 1900's when the house was built, right?

The only other weird incident came years later after my mother had died and no one was living in the house at the time, so I was all alone. I had to go back into the house to get some old financial records that my mother had been keeping in the basement. It was creepy because my mother had died suddenly in an accident and I found her old purse amongst the records, and it was still intact and untouched from the last day she had been living: it still had a half-used pack of her favorite chewing gum in it, there were still used Kleenex in it, some cash, etc. Suddenly the power went out in the house and I was in total darkness for a few seconds until my eyes could adjust.

I suddenly really had this sense of not being alone in the basement, and I had that "get out" feeling that other people have talked about. I certainly wasn't feeling the loving presence of my mother, it was just a feeling of being very unwelcome, it was almost tangible. I grabbed what records I had found and got up the stairs, and managed not to run.

I am a fairly agnostic person who is pretty skeptical of any eyewitness accounts. There is nothing here (in my experiences) that is proveable and all of it is highly subjective. I definitely won't leap to the conclusion that these experiences necessarily mean there is anything supernatural going on. But I am a lot more sympathetic to other people who have experiences they can't explain. But to me, that's all they are. Experiences that haven't been explained yet. You don't always have all the information you need to arrive at a proper and satisfying conclusion.