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post #1 of 38
8/7/08 at 2:57pm
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The Dark Knight on Blu-ray with BD-Live features? - DVDTOWN.com

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Warner Bros. hints that "The Dark Knight" could be the first release on Blu-ray to feature BD-Live.

As we reported in early July Warner has been reluctant to use BD-Live on their Blu-ray releases.

"The Dark Knight" could be the first title to change this. With the enormous success of the movie Warner will no doubt make something special out of its DVD and Blu-ray releases and it could make the studio go for BD-Live. According to HCC Magazine the studio has hinted that a group of people will be able to start the movie simultaneously allowing for chat under and after the movie. Other possible features include library access and more.

"The Dark Knight" will most likely be released on DVD and Blu-ray this November or December.

More on what could be the most anticipated home video release of the year (Unless Star Wars arrives on Blu-ray of course. No, it has not been announced.) when we have it!

Can't wait for more news about this movie
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post #2 of 38
8/7/08 at 9:02pm

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I just want the movie. I will watch endlessly for days. Amazing film. I haven't been this blown away by a film since I watched Once Upon a Time in the West, on video, for the first time.
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post #3 of 38
8/8/08 at 10:43am

Re: Blu Ray rumors about The Dark Knight release

I just read an article where Nolan says he plans (for BD, no word on SD DVD) to have the IMAX footage "fill the screen" of 16x9 displays, so expect the BD to offer changing aspect ratios like the IMAX presentation (it won't be exact, as I believe IMAX is 1.66:1 but it should be pretty close).

Those with CIH setups, though, may not be happy with this "feature". I, however, look forward to reliving (albeit on a much smaller scale) the IMAX presentation.
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post #4 of 38
8/8/08 at 11:09am

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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I just read an article where Nolan says he plans (for BD, no word on SD DVD) to have the IMAX footage "fill the screen" of 16x9 displays, so expect the BD to offer changing aspect ratios like the IMAX presentation (it won't be exact, as I believe IMAX is 1.66:1 but it should be pretty close).

Those with CIH setups, though, may not be happy with this "feature". I, however, look forward to reliving (albeit on a much smaller scale) the IMAX presentation.

I cannot wait for this either, will it be released pre Christmas?
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post #5 of 38
8/8/08 at 11:16am

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Nolan didn't say (I don't think it's up to him).
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post #6 of 38
8/8/08 at 11:31am

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Originally Posted by Lance Rumbolt
I cannot wait for this either, will it be released pre Christmas?

Its a safe bet that it will be because I'm sure it is 'all part of the plan'.

On a semi-related note, was a change in aspect ratio not possible with DVD? One other changing aspect ratio movie I'd really like to see get a BD release is Galaxy Quest. The DVD release is pretty abysmal. Maybe Dreamworks will release it when Star Trek IX is released theatrically or to home video.
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post #7 of 38
8/8/08 at 11:35am

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
Its a safe bet that it will be because I'm sure it is 'all part of the plan'.

On a semi-related note, was a change in aspect ratio not possible with DVD? One other changing aspect ratio movie I'd really like to see get a BD release is Galaxy Quest. The DVD release is pretty abysmal. Maybe Dreamworks will release it when Star Trek IX is released theatrically or to home video.
The article didn't say it wasn't possible. Nolan was simply pointing out that BD will allow the detail of the IMAX footage to shine sufficiently to warrant such a decision. Perhaps the difference would not be striking enough on the SD DVD. Who knows?
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post #8 of 38
8/8/08 at 12:10pm

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Originally Posted by Lance Rumbolt
I cannot wait for this either, will it be released pre Christmas?

You can bet your bottom dollar this will be released during the holiday shopping season.
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post #9 of 38
8/8/08 at 12:24pm

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Rumored release date is December 9, but yes, it's 100% certain that it will be out before Christmas.
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post #10 of 38
8/8/08 at 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I just read an article where Nolan says he plans (for BD, no word on SD DVD) to have the IMAX footage "fill the screen" of 16x9 displays, so expect the BD to offer changing aspect ratios like the IMAX presentation (it won't be exact, as I believe IMAX is 1.66:1 but it should be pretty close).

Those with CIH setups, though, may not be happy with this "feature". I, however, look forward to reliving (albeit on a much smaller scale) the IMAX presentation.

I would think that those with CIH setups would just realize that they are duplicating the how the film appeared in 2.35:1 theaters. I have watched the dark knight prologue on BR cropped on a 2.35:1 screen. It looks fine, and probably duplicates that general release appearance. I would guess that Nolan framed the IMAX scenes with a 2.35:1 crop in mind.
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post #11 of 38
8/8/08 at 12:42pm

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Wonder if we'll see this before X-mas, I plan on a blind buy like with Begins.
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post #12 of 38
8/8/08 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Jesse Blacklow
Rumored release date is December 9, but yes, it's 100% certain that it will be out before Christmas.

Hmmm interesting same day as rumored release of Clone Wars
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post #13 of 38
8/8/08 at 1:08pm

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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I just read an article where Nolan says he plans (for BD, no word on SD DVD) to have the IMAX footage "fill the screen" of 16x9 displays, so expect the BD to offer changing aspect ratios like the IMAX presentation (it won't be exact, as I believe IMAX is 1.66:1 but it should be pretty close).
Native 15-perf IMAX is more like 1.33:1. I don't know if any matting was applied to the IMAX sequences in The Dark Knight or not, though.

Regards,
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post #14 of 38
8/8/08 at 1:13pm
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Do we know if Heath Ledger contributed to a possible audio commentary for the upcoming release on BR or DVD ?
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post #15 of 38
8/8/08 at 1:24pm

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^Never say never but I doubt that they would have recorded an audio commentary six months before the theatrical release. Probably the best you can hope for is some EPK fluff interview.
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post #16 of 38
8/8/08 at 1:56pm

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Originally Posted by Ken_McAlinden
Native 15-perf IMAX is more like 1.33:1. I don't know if any matting was applied to the IMAX sequences in The Dark Knight or not, though.

Regards,


Officially the aspect ratio of Imax is 1.43:1.

Doug
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post #17 of 38
8/8/08 at 2:00pm

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Originally Posted by JeremySt
I would think that those with CIH setups would just realize that they are duplicating the how the film appeared in 2.35:1 theaters. I have watched the dark knight prologue on BR cropped on a 2.35:1 screen. It looks fine, and probably duplicates that general release appearance. I would guess that Nolan framed the IMAX scenes with a 2.35:1 crop in mind.


This assumes that they didn't alter the top line of the cropped version from shot to shot. They MAY have used a common top line, but that line would likely have been near the top of the Imax frame. Just cropping it to the center of a 2.35:1 CIH might cut off the tops of heads from time to time, or miss important information at the bottom of the frame.

Its likely that they panned up and down on the Imax frame for the 2:35:1 version to keep important info in the frame.

Doug
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post #18 of 38
8/8/08 at 2:03pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Officially the aspect ratio of Imax is 1.43:1.
I believe that is the physical size of the film frame, but that projector apertures are slightly narrower. In any case, in Michigan, we have IMAX screens in Dearborn, Lansing, and Grand Rapids that are 1.33:1, 1.4:1, and 1.6:1, so I guess it varies.

Regards,
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post #19 of 38
8/8/08 at 2:18pm

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Well, that ratio makes sense with what I saw last night (early this morning), but it is less exciting with regards to the plan by Nolan. I guess one can ONLY see the IMAX changing aspect ratio version at the IMAX cinemas (though I suppose extremely anal fans can make an IMAX ratio screen and take it out just for titles like this--I could actually do that in the other room in the basement, but I'd lose the great sound).

Maybe a windowboxed version that...nah, nevermind. However it comes out, it will look great, I'll wager. Now if only I could replicate the IMAX subwoofer in my basement.
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post #20 of 38
8/8/08 at 2:21pm

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Originally Posted by Ken_McAlinden
I believe that is the physical size of the film frame, but that projector apertures are slightly narrower. In any case, in Michigan, we have IMAX screens in Dearborn, Lansing, and Grand Rapids that are 1.33:1, 1.4:1, and 1.6:1, so I guess it varies.

Regards,

Could very well be. It surely has enough real estate to play with aspect ratio wise. And you sit so close to the screen in an Imax theater that you probably couldn't tell the difference between 1.33 and even 1.85 unless you measured it, or ran a test film with frame lines on it.

Doug
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post #21 of 38
8/8/08 at 2:30pm

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A question for those who have seen DK in Imax. Do the 2.35:1 segments fill the screen from edge to edge? (obviously not top and bottom) When I saw Attack of the Clones at the Imax it didn't fully fill the screen to the edges.

Doug
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post #22 of 38
8/8/08 at 2:36pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
A question for those who have seen DK in Imax. Do the 2.35:1 segments fill the screen from edge to edge? (obviously not top and bottom) When I saw Attack of the Clones at the Imax it didn't fully fill the screen to the edges.

Doug
They appeared to last night. If they didn't, it was close enough for me not to notice.
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post #23 of 38
8/8/08 at 5:06pm

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They appeared to last night. If they didn't, it was close enough for me not to notice.

Yeah that screen is so huge and you sit so close its sometimes hard to tell.

Doug
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post #24 of 38
8/9/08 at 3:18pm

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Although I like the idea of viewing the film with the IMAX footage in its original ratio I'd prefer if this was done via seamless branching on the Blu-ray giving the option to watch the film's IMAX presentation or the theatrical 2.35:1 version, if only to stop the "why's the picture changing like that?" questions coming from the family!
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post #25 of 38
8/9/08 at 3:21pm

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I saw the dark knight in imax.. it does switch back and fourth.. but you are so involved with the movie that you don't notice the change until it has already happened. I would not worry too much about it.

Jacob
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post #26 of 38
8/9/08 at 4:32pm

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In a packed hall the other night, NO sounds of complaint regarding changing aspect ratios was audible.
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post #27 of 38
8/9/08 at 4:51pm

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Originally Posted by TheBat
I saw the dark knight in imax.. it does switch back and fourth.. but you are so involved with the movie that you don't notice the change until it has already happened. I would not worry too much about it.

Jacob

I didn't get to see the IMAX presentation, but I can imagine it was breathtaking and fairly overwhelming on such huge screens.

My point is, I doubt it will have the same effect on home viewing and the changing ratio may be a little off putting for certain folk. It would be good to have the option to view both presentations, that's all. Isn't that one of the things Blu-ray is supposed to be about...offering multiple choices as well as optimum pic/sound quality?

But no matter, this will still be a pre-order for me as it's one of the films of the year IMHO.
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post #28 of 38
8/9/08 at 5:46pm

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if you have the bluray edition of batman begins you get a sneak peek at the first 6 minutes of dark knight in imax. .even if they do the imax edition its will be less size wise then the imax.. unless you have a really big tv set. I have a nice 47 inch.. and its fine.

Jacob
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post #29 of 38
8/9/08 at 6:19pm

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I have the Blu-ray of Batman Begins and have watched the 6 min opening of The Dark Knight numerous times via my projector on my 8 foot wide screen...and it is stunning!

I say again, I personally have no problem whatsoever with the Blu-ray being presented this way, but I do know people (with much smaller screens/TV's) who will think it's a little odd! So why can't Blu live up to what it promised and present a truly versatile, optimum & ultimate viewing experience and offer mulitple choices to us punters?
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post #30 of 38
8/9/08 at 7:34pm

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According to the American Cinematographer article, the majority of THE DARK KNIGHT IMAX footage was cropped to 2.35:1 by doing a "center slice", matting an equal amount off the top and bottom. I'm sure some shots might have been repositioned up-and-down, but at least the majority weren't, at least according to the AC article. Hopefully, Nolan will make sure that the "opened up" IMAX shots on the DK BD will have the 35mm 2.35:1 image area properly centered. Since the 1.78:1 aspect ratio of HD gives him some room to play with the original 1.43:1 IMAX image with regards to the vertical framing of those shots, this shouldn't be too hard.

Vincent

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
This assumes that they didn't alter the top line of the cropped version from shot to shot. They MAY have used a common top line, but that line would likely have been near the top of the Imax frame. Just cropping it to the center of a 2.35:1 CIH might cut off the tops of heads from time to time, or miss important information at the bottom of the frame.

Its likely that they panned up and down on the Imax frame for the 2:35:1 version to keep important info in the frame.

Doug
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