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post #91 of 129
11/1/08 at 12:58pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Chances are it's just a corruption of the screen grab picture and not the video itself.
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post #92 of 129
11/4/08 at 11:22am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Just grabbed this from my local BB at lunch. Beautiful package overall, but potential bad news. It has THE OMEN type of internal hubs to hold the discs. I took CONQUEST off the spindle and I am already having difficulties upon attempting to put it back. The discs are held within the binding of an included book. I am concerned about damage. Blu-Ray discs are supposed to be durable .. yes? :-(
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post #93 of 129
11/5/08 at 7:21am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

The hubs are more robust than the foam type, made of silicone instead, but it makes putting the discs back on a little difficult. It's doable though after a bit of practice.
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post #94 of 129
11/5/08 at 9:13am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

The hub news solidified my decision not to purchase the set. It really is impressive looking otherwise, but how hard would it have been to include the hubs used in Warner Bros. Digibooks?

I really only wanted the original though, as Beneath the Planet of the Apes left a bad taste in my mouth. So much so that I never gave the following sequels a chance. I think I will rent the four sequels and decide if I want to pick them up via a sale in their individual cases down the road.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Amazon was backordered on the single original? I had to go to a B&M, gasp, to get mine this morning. I will be watching it tonight hopefully.
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post #95 of 129
11/5/08 at 9:33am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Paul, i just went and checked Amazon. They show the single BD of PotA as in stock. I had to look, cause i have it and Beneath on order from them. I use the free shipping, so mine has not even entered the "shipping soon" phase. Anyway, i clicked on the Apes link in my order, says in stock.
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post #96 of 129
11/5/08 at 10:50am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by RickER
Paul, i just went and checked Amazon. They show the single BD of PotA as in stock. I had to look, cause i have it and Beneath on order from them. I use the free shipping, so mine has not even entered the "shipping soon" phase. Anyway, i clicked on the Apes link in my order, says in stock.

Typical. It was 6-11 Days yesterday. Anyway, I got it in the car that's the important thing.
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post #97 of 129
11/6/08 at 5:34pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Well, I now own a Blu-ray player. I bought one today because I couldn't resist getting the APES set, especially for the unedited version of CONQUEST. I am already sold on BD.

But I have to echo what has been said about the LOUSY hubs on this set! Just awful!! So I took all the discs out and am placing them in my old SD packaging with the Ape Head. I don't usually believe in ever switching packaging, but there's no way I'm going to risk getting the new Apes BDs damaged.

I have NEVER seen such terrible packaging in my life. This method of DVD hub has to take the cake.

But yes, the picture quality is awesome - I'm a BD believer!
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post #98 of 129
11/6/08 at 7:32pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

I never owned any of these films on any format other than the sd dvd of Tim Burton's re-imagining. My dad introduced me to the PotA films when I was young. I always had a fascination with monkeys and gorillas when I was a kid. I thought they were the coolest animals of all time. I've seen bits and pieces of these films on tv over the years but never sat down for a complete viewing of any of these films since I was a kid. That was until yesterday, when I purchased this set at Best Buy. I originally put the first film in to see the Blu-ray quality. I started at the begining and didn't stop watching till the end. Wow, was this ever stunning. Alot of people are raving about the James Bond releases being all that, we'll this, in my opinion so far, is the Blu-ray of the year. I can only hope the rest of the films are as outstandingly restored as the first. It's funny that the classic films impress me more on Blu-ray then the current films do. I love watching these and feeling like the picture is so damn good it could have been filmed this year. Love it! Oh, and the silicone hubs do in fact SUCK!!!!!!!!
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post #99 of 129
11/6/08 at 8:04pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

I have to agree that the hubs are the only really down side to this set. I have however found the secret to getting the discs back onto them. Turn the disc as you push down and they seem to go back on securely.

Doug
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post #100 of 129
11/7/08 at 9:06am
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Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

What is the verdict on the longer cut of Battle? Included or not?
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post #101 of 129
11/7/08 at 11:27am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Disappointed to hear about the packaging
however
if these are anything like the HDDVD Battlestar Galactica hubs (which it sounds like they are) then they are actually a much lower stress removal/return set-up than most digipack trays I've encountered. Their biggest problem is that they are counter-intuitive. You DON'T want to PULL UP on the discs as you would do with a typical tray set-up. Twist/screw the disc on-off the hub is all you need to do. Very low stress on the disc, and it it suspended above any surface so it shouldn't get scratched.
I actually liked these hubs on the BSG set after I understood how they worked...with the caveat that the actual carboard packaging should have been heavier duty.
I just ordered the first three single releases in the DVD Planet sale...but I may yet go back and just get the entire box set for the lower overall cost and 'completeness'. I prefer the individual cases, but given the long time I will go between viewings of these, the packaging might just be a big non-issue. I'll have to hit a b&m today to check it out.
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post #102 of 129
11/7/08 at 2:04pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
What is the verdict on the longer cut of Battle? Included or not?

Yes, it is included.
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post #103 of 129
11/8/08 at 8:03am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Aside from being a space hog (taking up the space of about 30 regular BD cases they way my cabinet is) it's a rather nice set though I haven't removed any from the hubs yet. I guess I should be prepared for some aggravation.
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post #104 of 129
11/8/08 at 1:06pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Thanks for the tips Douglas and Paul.. tried it last night and actually got them back on the hubs!
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post #105 of 129
11/21/08 at 5:52am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

My set came in yesterday and I understand where all the complaints are coming from. Aside from the pretty graphic design, the ergonomics of the set are 101 kinds of suck. Although they are similar to the HD DVD BSG hubs, the BSG hubs were such that the disc would hover about 1/8-1/4" above the panels surface. This made it easy to grip around the edge so it could just be twisted on and off with one hand. The hubs here though are so shallow that I found, as Doug suggested, you need to both twist and press down (along the inner rim) at the same time. The first disc I took off was a bitch to get back on, but I got the hang for the next two.
You also have to roll your eyes at the extravegant inclusion of a slipcase that fails in it's primary function by leaving the book and discs exposed.
Oh well. Still in all, I'm happy to have HD versions of these, and considering I was able to get 5 Fox Bds for under $70 (and get $26 in store credit for my old 16:9 set to boot) it's hard to complain too much.
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post #106 of 129
11/21/08 at 6:40am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Anyone having trouble playing Planet in their Sony S550? I got my Netflix copy yesterday and it won't play. The animated ape intro plays and then I get the "wait" symbol, then the screen goes blank and the movie never starts. I tried it several times.

This is the first disc the 550 wouldn't play. It does fine on the Bond movies.
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post #107 of 129
11/24/08 at 4:23am
Thread Starter 

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Still anxiously awaiting my copy to arrive (I ordered late), and I have a question: So, is this the definitive collection of the Apes movies? Is it the last set we'll have to buy?
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post #108 of 129
11/24/08 at 9:43am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
So, is this the definitive collection of the Apes movies? Is it the last set we'll have to buy?

No offense, but I always find this kind of question amusing. Afterall, only you can answer whether it is definite or not. It certainly won't be the last time Fox asks you to buy Planet of the Apes of that you can be certain. However, as always, it is completely up to you whether or not you 'bite' the next time they do.
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post #109 of 129
11/24/08 at 10:14am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
Still anxiously awaiting my copy to arrive (I ordered late), and I have a question: So, is this the definitive collection of the Apes movies? Is it the last set we'll have to buy?

I agree with Paul; I will, however, go so far as to say that Fox is really gonna have to reach to come up with any other featurettes that would cover material still left uncovered. I think this will represent the definitive POTA release in terms of bonus materials, but of course another format will come along one day that makes Blu-ray look like VHS so, in that respect, no, it's not definitive.
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post #110 of 129
11/24/08 at 11:31am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
Still anxiously awaiting my copy to arrive (I ordered late), and I have a question: So, is this the definitive collection of the Apes movies? Is it the last set we'll have to buy?
I'd say yes. I doubt very highly Fox will ever do another set of "Apes" that gets anywhere near this one. Top notch, with tons of features!
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post #111 of 129
11/25/08 at 4:44am
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Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

My copy came in the mail yesterday, and while I haven't checked out the discs yet, the package is something else. Probably the nicest Blu-Ray package I have seen yet (despite those annoying disc hubs). When most Blu-Ray packages are way too simplistic and cheap (Indiana Jones, Wall-E), this is something impressive.

To respond to comments on my question, of course there may well be a new format that replaces Blu-Ray in the future or improves upon it, but for the foreseeable future, Blu-Ray is definitive. The 2000 DVD set was not (not even anamorphic!), and the Ape Head set (which I didn't buy) seemed a placeholder because we knew high-def was coming. Maybe someday when we have hologram discs/downloading, I will buy POTA again.
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post #112 of 129
11/25/08 at 7:51am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Johnny Angell
Anyone having trouble playing Planet in their Sony S550? I got my Netflix copy yesterday and it won't play. The animated ape intro plays and then I get the "wait" symbol, then the screen goes blank and the movie never starts. I tried it several times.

This is the first disc the 550 wouldn't play. It does fine on the Bond movies.
My Sony BD-S350 struggled with this title, too. The first time I tried, I experienced the exact same problem you describe. I ejected the disc and tried again. This time it hung for awhile in the same spot, but eventually loaded the main menu and the disc then played flawlessly.

FYI, my copy is the single disc release, not the entire collection set. I assume the actual discs are the same, though.

This was the first BD that had presented any problems on my S350.
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post #113 of 129
11/25/08 at 3:46pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
and the Ape Head set (which I didn't buy) seemed a placeholder because we knew high-def was coming.

Turns out I'm glad I bought the Ape Head, since I love it and I am now able to transfer the new Blu-ray discs into it! I hate those new hubs and the new Blu packaging in general.
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post #114 of 129
11/25/08 at 7:01pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
My Sony BD-S350 struggled with this title, too. The first time I tried, I experienced the exact same problem you describe. I ejected the disc and tried again. This time it hung for awhile in the same spot, but eventually loaded the main menu and the disc then played flawlessly.

FYI, my copy is the single disc release, not the entire collection set. I assume the actual discs are the same, though.

This was the first BD that had presented any problems on my S350.

I had no problem with it, on my 350. I have the single disc too.
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post #115 of 129
11/25/08 at 7:13pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

The secret to getting the discs back on the hubs is to turn them while pressing down a bit. Almost like screwing a jar lid back on.

Works every time for me so far....


silly design though I have to admit
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post #116 of 129
11/25/08 at 9:40pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
Well, I now own a Blu-ray player. I bought one today because I couldn't resist getting the APES set, especially for the unedited version of CONQUEST. I am already sold on BD.

But I have to echo what has been said about the LOUSY hubs on this set! Just awful!! So I took all the discs out and am placing them in my old SD packaging with the Ape Head. I don't usually believe in ever switching packaging, but there's no way I'm going to risk getting the new Apes BDs damaged.

I have NEVER seen such terrible packaging in my life. This method of DVD hub has to take the cake.

But yes, the picture quality is awesome - I'm a BD believer!


Maybe this is a dumb idea, but, I think it would a major advance for all the studios to agree on a universal hub insert that would snap into place. Aside from that one small feature, they'd be free to implement whatever custom packaging scheme they want. If a hub broke, you could simply snap in a replacement. Seems to me a reasonable request on our part, given the average price of BD special editions and boxed sets, and so much anxiety over something as trivial as a 10 cent piece of plastic.

I can't recall a single packaging issue complained about more often in these forums, and justifiably so. Second place, would go to the odd size and format of custom packaging, but that's more a cosmetic issue, than safe, dependable storage. Wouldn't this approach also be more cost effective and production efficient, after the initial step of adopting a standard?
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post #117 of 129
11/26/08 at 11:27pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by David Wilkins
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
But I have to echo what has been said about the LOUSY hubs on this set! Just awful!! So I took all the discs out and am placing them in my old SD packaging with the Ape Head. I don't usually believe in ever switching packaging, but there's no way I'm going to risk getting the new Apes BDs damaged.

Maybe this is a dumb idea, but, I think it would a major advance for all the studios to agree on a universal hub insert that would snap into place. Aside from that one small feature, they'd be free to implement whatever custom packaging scheme they want. If a hub broke, you could simply snap in a replacement. Seems to me a reasonable request on our part, given the average price of BD special editions and boxed sets, and so much anxiety over something as trivial as a 10 cent piece of plastic.

Personally, I (like Joe above) would be a bit less concerned about the hub breaking than the disc itself breaking/cracking/chipping at the inner ring where it snaps onto the hub. I've had that happen to a few DVDs in the past (and a couple SACDs too). And at the price premium of BDs, it'd be that much more painful to have to replace them because of something like that. *PLUS* if you continue to use a badly chipped disc or one that's starting to crack (while it's still playable), you also risk damaging your player to boot.

_Man_
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post #118 of 129
11/27/08 at 3:53pm

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
Personally, I (like Joe above) would be a bit less concerned about the hub breaking than the disc itself breaking/cracking/chipping at the inner ring where it snaps onto the hub. I've had that happen to a few DVDs in the past (and a couple SACDs too). And at the price premium of BDs, it'd be that much more painful to have to replace them because of something like that. *PLUS* if you continue to use a badly chipped disc or one that's starting to crack (while it's still playable), you also risk damaging your player to boot.

_Man_

Guess I was skimming through the posts too quickly and didn't read the particular issue with the hub, especially since broken hubs are such a common gripe with custom packaging.

I've had the issue of a poorly made hub that won't release the disc without undue pressure, only once, and that was 'The Godfather' trilogy. I honestly thought the part 1 disc was going to crack, regardless of how much care was taken. It's better now after use, but not enough to avoid using great care every time.
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post #119 of 129
11/28/08 at 3:52am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

Even if the silicone hubs weren't there and we had more safe, sturdy, and durable snap-on hubs, I still wouldn't like the packaging. This is a sloppy and potentially damaging way to present a set of movies - having them plastered up on the carboard book cover like this. I have carried the BD discs over to the cool Ape Head, and as far as I'm concerned I am only using the BD "packaging" as a bonus book to place alongside other books over at my bookcase.
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post #120 of 129
11/28/08 at 9:28am

Re: Planet of the Apes Blu-Ray Set - Nov. 4

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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
I have carried the BD discs over to the cool Ape Head, and as far as I'm concerned I am only using the BD "packaging" as a bonus book to place alongside other books over at my bookcase.

I have the Ape head too. Your right Joe, it's a good way to store the Blu-Ray discs
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