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Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

Ok, there may be another good chance to get a deal on this hammered out. Apparently, Adam West is under consideration for a spot on the next "Dancing with the Stars"
post #152 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis


A famous case is that of Audrey Meadows. Before she signed on to do The Jackie Gleason Show (and by extension its Honeymooners spinoff), her manager was cagey enough to include a clause which guaranteed her lifetime residuals. Apparently Gleason thought little of it since it was a live show. However, as the years went by, thanks to the endless reruns of The Honeymooners, Miss Meadows got her residuals for the rest of her life, and this was even before the "lost episodes" entered syndication.

...and in my option, Audrey Meadows is worth every penny
post #153 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it's the ultimate "when hell freezes over" title.

Why? Because every title I've ever considered one of those "they'll never release that on DVD!" - The Great Race, Monte Carlo Or Bust, Get Smart, The Man From UNCLE, When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth and Moon Zero Two* - has eventually appeared, and often sooner than later.

I call it my "what the f*** do I know?" theory.

*the only hole in my theory is the fact I can't get hold of these titles without either making a personal trip to the US, or getting thoroughly skinned on Amazon Marketplace or eBay.
post #154 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

In the latest twist to this crazy story, Comic Book Resources is reporting that Fox may be looking to get the rights to Batman from Warner as part of a legal settlement over the rights to the upcoming Watchmen film.

EDIT: Right, I cannot post URLs until I have 15 posts. Okay, then, go to Comic Book Resources DOT com and click on "Lying in the Gutters" in the upper right.
post #155 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

I read about this on another forum and I find it incredibly hard to believe.

It's similar to when Sony and MGM were fighting over "Spider-Man" rights and Sony agreed to stop pursuing their rival Bond film if MGM forfeited their "Spider-Man" rights but that's a case where the stakes are two comparable entities (two blockbuster franchises) whereas this Warner Bros. vs. Fox battle is seriously lopsided in Warner Bros. favor. WB ends up with a huge blockbuster film and Fox ends up with a DVD release that would sell well but wouldn't break any records by any means. If Fox has any legitimate claim to the "Watchmen" rights I can't see them giving them up for Adam West's "Batman".

By the way, here's the link:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=18162
post #156 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

You're right to have doubts about this.

I'll be posting something at TSoD tomorrow.
post #157 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

Well, I can tell you exactly why there might be legs to this story. Someone may have bit the bullet and ordered a certain set of a certain show by less than official means.
post #158 of 180

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So, this is a deal in the works that will rival ABC trading Al Michaels to NBC so Disney could get back the rights to the Oswald The Lucky Rabbit B & W cartoons.

If it is true, I shake my head in astonishment at both.
post #159 of 180

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Originally Posted by Greg Chenoweth
So, this is a deal in the works that will rival ABC trading Al Michaels to NBC so Disney could get back the rights to the Oswald The Lucky Rabbit B & W cartoons.

If it is true, I shake my head in astonishment at both.

wait - is that how they did it?
post #160 of 180

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Originally Posted by Bill GrandPre
WB ends up with a huge blockbuster film and Fox ends up with a DVD release that would sell well but wouldn't break any records by any means.
You may have a point. I'd like to think this show would sell like hotcakes, but you just never know. I strongly hope we all get to find out if it can.
post #161 of 180

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Originally Posted by David Lambert
I'll be posting something at TSoD tomorrow.

Thar she blows!
Batman DVD news: Reports about a Watchmen-for-Batman Deal | TVShowsOnDVD.com
post #162 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

So to summerize: abandon all hope, for the sun will grow cold and burn itself out before this set ever happens.
post #163 of 180

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I would love to have the major media covering this story. Why haven't The New York Times, TV Guide or even People done a story on this? Instead on doing fluff on Brigitte Nielsen's latest plastic surgery, Entertainment Tonight should do an in-depth story as to the fight over getting Batman to DVD!!!!
post #164 of 180

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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis
I would love to have the major media covering this story. Why haven't The New York Times, TV Guide or even People done a story on this?

Well, my paycheck says "TV Guide".
post #165 of 180

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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis
I would love to have the major media covering this story. Why haven't The New York Times, ... or even People done a story on this? Instead on doing fluff on Brigitte Nielsen's latest plastic surgery, Entertainment Tonight should do an in-depth story as to the fight over getting Batman to DVD!!!!

Because 16-24 year old girls don't care anything about a 40-year old TV show! Almost everybody's chasing the same "youth" demographic groups that everyone else is.

Besides, more media coverage may not be a good thing: you might get more people crawling out of the woodwork thinking they need a piece of the pie.
post #166 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

The LITG story also mentions that it wouldn't be a straight one-for-one trade: Fox would get a bunch of money in addition to the Batman TV series rights.
post #167 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

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Originally Posted by David Lambert

Outstanding work, Dave. This is the best summation of the situation I have ever read, and I have been following this story since the first TV-on-DVD set arrived circa 2000.

Let's hope that, maybe, if true, the Watchmen thing will at least start a chain of events that leads to the release.
post #168 of 180

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
Outstanding work, Dave. This is the best summation of the situation I have ever read

Thank you!
post #169 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

If this does come out....to quote the movie Heathers, "**** me gently with a chainsaw!"

I never get to use good quotes.

Next mission Dave, get Universal and Dimension to work out a deal for The Six Million Dollar Man.
post #170 of 180

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Originally Posted by RickER
Next mission Dave, get Universal and Dimension to work out a deal for The Six Million Dollar Man.

Sure, thing, I'll get right to work on that!
post #171 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

Six Million Dollar Man????? Just get a cheap region free player , buy the sets from region 2 and youre all set, so simple.I could never understand this business of being loyal to one region.I own dvds from every part of the world.If lets say for example, Batman 66 was made legally available, in a lavish region 2 set, and still no region 1, you guys would still wait???? !!!!
post #172 of 180

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Originally Posted by David Lambert
Sure, thing, I'll get right to work on that!

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Originally Posted by RickER
Dave, get Universal and Dimension to work out a deal for The Six Million Dollar Man.
Yeah Dave, chop chop. We all can't sit around forever while you tvguide guys have all these shows hidden away in some secret vault. Now hurry up and hammer out that damn distribution deal with all the involved studios. Time is short.
post #173 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

If only we could get Oprah on the case. She did wonders for the Mary Tyler Moore show.

Oprah and a million harpy march would get Batman released!
post #174 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
Outstanding work, Dave...

Amen to that! Very impressive, Dave!
post #175 of 180

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Originally Posted by troy evans
Yeah Dave, chop chop. We all can't sit around forever while you tvguide guys have all these shows hidden away in some secret vault. Now hurry up and hammer out that damn distribution deal with all the involved studios. Time is short.



OK, what have you done for us TODAY dave.!

But really, thanks for all the info you post.

Tony, the amount of stuff i would want from R2? Lets see...T6MDM, and thats it. Not worth it, for me. I use my Blu-ray players for DVD play back also. I sure wont be doing a region hack on a machine that could get bricked if they didnt like the hack. I only have 1 friend that has a R free player (he got it so he could watch T6MDM), and thats actually less than the number of people i know with Blu-ray players!
post #176 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

It certainly looks like Fox has Warner by the nose. Turnabout is fair play. I think that it depends on how big the Watchmen film is expected to be. If Watchmen is expected to be a huge film then it seems unlikely that the Batman series would be the reason the film doesn't get released.

It is right that Warner's theatrical division cannot order DC comics to go along but the theatrical division likely has a working relationship with DC comics due to the Batman and Superman movies. It is possible that the theatrical division could try to broker a compromise with DC and Fox. I don't expect anything since the movie is not scheduled to be released until March. If by March 1, the only thing standing between a huge payoff is Batman, I don't see how the head of Time Warner doesn't get dragged in.

As for the people involved in the show, you almost certainly would have to deal with Greenway Productions.

The rest of it depends on whether standard industry contracts were used or
Greenway's were written up differently. If they were standard contracts then it is likely most issues mentioned are likely not issues. If they used different contracts then it could be a Pandora's box.

It certainly looks like Fox has Warner by the nose. Turnabout is fair play. I think that it depends on how big the Watchmen film is expected to be. If Watchmen is expected to be a huge film then it seems unlikely that the Batman series would be the reason the film doesn't get released.

It is right that Warner's theatrical division cannot order DC comics to go along but the theatrical division likely has a working relationship with DC comics due to the Batman and Superman movies. It is possible that the theatrical division could try to broker a compromise with DC and Fox. I don't expect anything since the movie is not scheduled to be released until March.
If by March 1, the only thing standing between a huge payoff is Batman, I don't see how the head of Time Warner doesn't get dragged in.

As for the people involved in the show, you almost certainly would have to deal with Greenway Productions.

The rest of it depends on whether standard industry contracts were used or
Greenway's were written up differently. If they were standard contracts then it is likely most issues mentioned are likely not issues. If they used different contracts then it could be a Pandora's box.
post #177 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

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Originally Posted by Tony Zannikos
Six Million Dollar Man????? Just get a cheap region free player , buy the sets from region 2 and youre all set, so simple.I could never understand this business of being loyal to one region.

Well, I myself am certainly not "region-loyal", but I, too, have held off of buying the R2/4 "Bionic" sets. Why? Not loyalty, but for several reasons:

1. I want to wait for R1s so that I can buy sets that's aren't affected by the 4% PAL speedup
2. The screwups with the three $6M Man pilot movies (which is especially odd when the first two came out in their original forms on PAL-VHS just a few years prior)
3. The supposed bad picture quality on the $6M Man sets (though, this being Universal, I don't imagine we can expect any remastering, maybe the Stateside materials are in better shape than the ones used for the PAL releases).
4. The sets aren't high prioirity with me. I have all of the previous single-disc R2s, as well as the previous VHSes from both shows, so I have more than enough Bionic material to get a "fix" on for now.

I guess I'm just different from most people, but there's no way I'd ever want to limit myself to just one region. There's plenty of foreign programming I like that I could just never believe is going to come out in R1, or will take ages to do so. I guess the majority of Americans are really only interested in American shows.
post #178 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

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Originally Posted by David Lambert

Dave:

I grew up watching this show (and occasionally check out the reruns on MEtv), but really have no interest in buying this title. Having said that, the article you posted was FASCINATING reading and gives people like me great insight into the complicated "behind the scenes" stuff that goes into these titles. Great job!
post #179 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

Just curious- did any Batman episodes ever come out on VHS, laserdisc, or any other format?
post #180 of 180

Re: Batman ('60s series) STILL NOT coming to DVD! (Major update post #52)

No, just the 1966 feature film.
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