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post #631 of 656
3/16/11 at 5:41am

http://www.digitalbits.com has reported a Blu-Ray Book of T1 to be released on 5/10. Van, did you have your hand in this or is it the old Blu in new packaging?

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post #632 of 656
3/16/11 at 11:53am
Thread Starter 

Alisdair, I reckon it's probably the old Blu in new packaging, since I'm still on hold on T1 and have been since 2009; then again, it's entirely possible that they went ahead and had someone else do it.  In this business, you never know.

 

Hope this helps,

 

V

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post #633 of 656
3/17/11 at 10:51am

If T2 ever gets a new release, I would like to hear the Original CDS derived soundtrack maybe in place of the Dolby Headphone track so we can compare a home and a cinema mix of the same movie

 

Also in the new Total Film magazine Lance Henriksen said he just did a commentairy for the Terminator Bluray with Gale Anne Hurd, is the disc closer than MGM are letting on?


Edited by Mike Wadkins - 3/17/11 at 4:12pm
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post #634 of 656
3/18/11 at 3:06pm
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Mike, the commentary that Lance is referring to was actually recorded in early 2009, before we got put on hold.  It's only part of a packed audio commentary track I was working on... and I reckon I would have heard about it if they recorded a new one without me, since I've been working with both Lance and Gale on other projects for a while now... ;-) 

 

The CDS track was generated from the same original mix as what was on the early discs... but it would be interesting to compare.  Sadly, the large amount of disc space necessary for quality audio encoding like DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD actually poses some big bit-budget challenges on Blu-ray, especially if you have a long film and/or are trying to include other special features.  45Gb sounds like a lot of space on a dual-layer BD, but trust me, it's not... it's tough enough to fit everything on when you just have ONE big multichannel audio track at a decent compression rate, but every track you add just takes away from the encoded picture quality.

 

Cheers,

 

V

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post #635 of 656
3/18/11 at 6:18pm
If Lionsgate were really smart they'd port the Video transfer of the Japanese Premium edition of T2 and release it as their "Studio Canal Collection 20th Anniversary Edition".
Include a second disc with the Theatrical Cut and a lossless CDM soundtrack (encoded as DTS HD-MA 5.1)
A Third disc with Van Ling stuff and the longer special edition hidden as an easter egg. Because as it stands Lionsgate really screwed the pooch with the skynet edition. All that Bd-Java live stuff and extended branching made them use a low-bit encode of a DNR defecation.
Obviously they learned their lesson as they had the good sense to put Apocalypse Now on three discs.
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post #636 of 656
3/19/11 at 10:52am
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Originally Posted by Van Ling View Post

Mike, the commentary that Lance is referring to was actually recorded in early 2009, before we got put on hold.  It's only part of a packed audio commentary track I was working on... and I reckon I would have heard about it if they recorded a new one without me, since I've been working with both Lance and Gale on other projects for a while now... ;-) 

 

The CDS track was generated from the same original mix as what was on the early discs... but it would be interesting to compare.  Sadly, the large amount of disc space necessary for quality audio encoding like DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD actually poses some big bit-budget challenges on Blu-ray, especially if you have a long film and/or are trying to include other special features.  45Gb sounds like a lot of space on a dual-layer BD, but trust me, it's not... it's tough enough to fit everything on when you just have ONE big multichannel audio track at a decent compression rate, but every track you add just takes away from the encoded picture quality.

 

Cheers,

 

V



Thanks Van, thats good to know I knew that you would have been involved with it, is it an edited commentary or a group one?

I would be happy if the CDS original mix was just a 5.1 lossy mix as was used for the 4.0 70mm mixes on the Alien Blu releases

Just for archiving purposes I just preffer the mix and it would be great to retire my laserdiscs finally!

The remix for the SE laserdiscs (and everything since) improved a lot but made a few things worse, its an odd mix as a whole

 

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post #637 of 656
3/21/11 at 3:37pm

Thanks Van. I'm sure you'll be the first to let us know when the new Terminator Blu-ray ramps up again. biggrin.gif

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post #638 of 656
3/22/11 at 1:26pm

Along with the (hopefully) lossless original mono track, is there a possibility that T1 would get a new 5.1 mix?

 

Hopefully one that would more closely resemble the original mono track. Not just for the sound effects, but often in the current 5.1 mix the music isn't quite loud enough in the mix, whereas in the original mono track the music is quite prevalent. (E.g. when Reese knocks out the officer guarding him in the police station scene, the Terminator theme is loud in the original track, but muted in the 5.1 mix).

 

Also, in the scenes when we're shown the Terminator's perspective, in the original mono track, there was a notable "flange" effect which isn't present in the 5.1 mix, and the original effect coming through all the speakers would sound awesome.

 

 

 

 

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post #639 of 656
3/24/11 at 12:50am

I agree, I wouldn't mind the 2001 mix is "fixed", and replaced. Along with the original mono track of course.


Edited by dvdvision - 3/24/11 at 5:49am
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post #640 of 656
7/19/11 at 5:39pm
Hello Mr. Ling,

I've been a long time follower of this thread. The Terminator is one of my favorite films of all time and certainly the remastered version will be a day one purchase for me. It's been a few months since the last update and I was just wondering if you had any news on when we can finally get this extremely anticipated Blu-Ray? If you don't mind elaborating on the situation a little, are they just waiting for Jim Cameron's final approval, or are there other obstacles? Thank you for taking your time to post on this forum and for engaging and updating us fans.

Norbert
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post #641 of 656
7/24/11 at 10:02pm
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Norbert and friends: I don't have any more current info on the status of the T1 disc; I can only say I'm still on hold in my work on the title and have been so for literally years now. I surmise that it's not only Jim Cameron who will need to find the time to put some attention to it, but Arnold as well. As it seems that our former governor has had some other issues to contend with lately, I'm sure that will impact the forward movement of the disc too. Obviously, I think that these two gentlemen's participation is worth waiting for, and I would expect that most fans would agree.

Thanks to everyone for their patience and continued interest!

V

PS: In the meantime, if anyone is interested in what I've been working on while I'm waiting, I created 3D trailers for both THX (the new Broadway 3D trailer with the light streaks) and DTS (the "Living World of Audio" piece with the undersea environment and creatures all made from home theatre equipment); both trailers are available in Blu-ray 3D on the THX Calibrator disc and DTS Demo disc #15, respectively. In addition, I've had the opportunity to work on visual effects and/or graphics for a number of films, telefilms, series and attractions, including Cave of Forgotten Dreams, The Walking Dead, Piranha 3D, Lifetime's Last Man Standing, and the Skyline Bar aboard the Disney Dream cruise ship. And if you get a chance to visit Anaheim or Orlando, check out the updated Star Tours attraction, where you can see my work on much of the preshow queue screens, and if you're really sharp-eyed, try to find my cameo and other Easter Eggs we did in the passenger wall shadow gags!
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post #642 of 656
7/26/11 at 11:09am
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where you can see my work on much of the preshow queue screens, and if you're really sharp-eyed, try to find my cameo and other Easter Eggs we did in the passenger wall shadow gags

flpn A !!!
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post #643 of 656
7/26/11 at 3:53pm
Thank you for updating us. Please keep us posted if anything should change. We are all anxiously waiting.
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post #644 of 656
7/26/11 at 4:36pm
Van Ling is still around.
Thanks for the update.
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post #645 of 656
9/28/11 at 3:26pm
Any word on a 20th anniversary or upcoming release of T2? If not, I may finally have to get the Skynet edition.
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post #646 of 656
9/28/11 at 3:34pm
the skynet edition is worth getting. it has all 3 versions of t2 and alot of extras and even the trailers are in HD.

Jacob
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post #647 of 656
9/28/11 at 4:01pm
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the skynet edition is worth getting. it has all 3 versions of t2 and alot of extras and even the trailers are in HD.

Jacob
Currently $5 at Target if you can find it there.
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post #648 of 656
12/18/11 at 5:41pm
On a busier forum, someone just said "Just seen some artwork for a new release of The Terminator (which looks like a Fox release and not MGM) and a message stating a release date of May 2012."

Any info? Just a straight reissue, or something better?
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post #649 of 656
1/16/12 at 11:27am
Looks like a reissue for the UK.
Edited by dvdvision - 1/29/12 at 11:25am
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post #650 of 656
1/16/12 at 10:58pm
I wonder if the new remaster will be 1.77, opening up the top and bottom just a little bit, rather than hard matting it.
Edited by dvdvision - 1/29/12 at 11:26am
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post #651 of 656
1/22/12 at 10:38pm
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Currently $5 at Target if you can find it there.

Warning on the $5 deal at Target. I actually just tried to buy this the other day at my local Target, and it turned out that in the "Skynet Edition" case was the old 2006 Blu-ray with only the theatrical cut and the 2 commentaries. I took it back to get another, with the same result: the old disc in the Skynet packaging.

Just a heads-up.
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post #652 of 656
1/22/12 at 10:47pm
That stinks. THe one I bought had all three editions.
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post #653 of 656
1/23/12 at 5:19am
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That stinks. THe one I bought had all three editions.

Same here.
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post #654 of 656
1/23/12 at 12:10pm
Weird; maybe this place just got a bad batch.
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post #655 of 656
4/21/12 at 1:13pm
Hi Mr. Ling,

Can you please confirm that the UK release of The Terminator (steelbook Blu-Ray) on September 3rd, 2012 has indeed the new Lowry/Lightstorm transfer? Thank you for your time.

Here's the link to the release news: http://www.hidefninja.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17094
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post #656 of 656
5/1/12 at 2:16pm
What he said!!!
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