Terminator 1 & 2 - Page 20

If a new T1 blu ray is made I would love if the mono sound track is on it. I kept my DVD just for this reason. DTS-HD MA Mono or uncompressed Mono would be fine. Also a 2 disc edition with the movie on disc 1 on a BD-50 using the highest bit rate and extras on disc 2

I agree with everyone, keep the mono track please.  Also, I agree with David above me, a two disc edition would be nice.  The movie on disc 1 on a BD-50 using the highest bit rate and extras on disc 2.  I know it's not cost effective, but I really wish they reconsider it.

A music only with Brad's commentary and/or a documentry on him would be a nice as well.

Mr. Ling, I have a request, is there any way we can see a comparison shot of the original before you worked on it and an after shot.  Just one picture.  I'm dying to see what it looks like.  Can you tell us anything about the quality of the picture and how long it took from start to finish.  And can you tell us when Jim does approve your work on T1 on the forums.  That would be great to hear.

Thank you for answering my last post about the interviews and the documentry.

I gotta join the chorus -- please include the original mono track in pcm or lossless (message to the guys in suits not Van who knows already) -- it's a given -- any other way will be simple and predictable -- people will NOT buy and will download the thing instead. 
Edited by dvdvision - 12/27/09 at 5:41am

Glad to see there are several others that prefer the original mono mix. For that reason I am still holding on to the Terminator DVD, I haven't bought the Blu-ray. If the re-relase where to include the original mono mix I'd be happy to buy it. 

My take on this whole "extras" thing is that, nearly 13 years after DVD was introduced, the studios have basically lost interest in the "hassle" of producing supplemental material for a general public that, frankly and unfortunately, doesn't seem to care anymore. That is why many new releases contain the barest minimum of material and in some cases don't have anything at all. I took home A Perfect Getaway DVD without realizing there wasn't a single extra on the disc! Regarding a new Terminator disc, as much as I love the original film I just can't get excited for yet another release that probably won't have any significant new material. Besides, MGM is on life support - I'm starting to see them as releasing the same stuff over and over just to make a buck and stay afloat. I think the only way I'll purchase another T1 disc is if they tack on the Cyberdyne ending, get Linda Hamilton to participate and strike a brand new hi-def transfer.

My local PBS station used to show the making of short subjects that most films did even going back into the 1960s. I remember the show was on around 1975 - 79, and I would see shorts for films such as Logan's Run (1976), Bullitt (1968), The Poseidon Adventure (1972) and others. These were shorts of about 10 min running time. In fact there were short versions of the Raiders and Empire making ofs that showed on Leonard Nimoy's show  Standby: Lights! Camera! Action! on Nickelodeon in the early 80s.

Doug

I'm glad you asked this question about the "1185 E" sign cause I couldn't find it either.....unfortunately I can't find the "Plot Version 1" either......and idea?

"Put the Nation in dresses"

Speaking of ID4, this is certainly an interesting idea: 

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/05/independence-day-stage-production-shows-the-movie-in-its-true-form/

Van,

I see the Digital Bits has mentioned a SE Terminator coming out this year as a possibility.  I know there were discussions about it earlier.  My question is, how much better can this look compared to the existing Blu-ray?  Also, do you know if the original mono track will be included this time?  Thanks.

Yes that would really be awesome to include the original mono track

Exciting news! This should make for a fantastic image.  Does Jim Cameron have a favorite colorist he likes to work with for the color grading?

A perfect T1 bluray would be one with the original mono mix as well as a Cameron/Schwarzenegger commentary on one track, Biehn/Hamilton on another, then the technical one with Gene Warren, Mark Goldblatt and maybe snippets from Stan Winston on a third. I can't wait to see what the menus look like.
Edited by Conor Brosnahan - 2/8/10 at 10:57am

Nice, I think however Arnold asks for a fee for his commentaries. I wouldn't mind one mirroring the T2 disc, with Cameron and Wisher together, as Wisher also wrote stuff in the movie.

I'm hyped to see who shows up on what featurettes are on the disc, as well as seeing what menus might look like, maybe a different one each time you load the disc like the Star Wars dvd's, one inside Tech Noir, one in the police station waiting room, after a while Arnie would walk in, one of the future bunker, after a while you hear 'Reese, DN38416'. Mr. Ling always puts so much effort into the releases, I am so stoked!

Hey, gang. Just wanted to chime in here, seeing as how I've been watching T1 and T2 on BD this week.

I'd like to say thanks to the good Mr. Ling for all of his incredible work on the previous DVDs and BDs (which I've eagerly snapped up).

A while back, I finally gave in and got T1 on BD for $10, despite already having gotten the 2001 SE DVD the day it was released. The BD has only the 5.1 mix and only a few features (or PARTS of features) ported over, and really is not worth the upgrade-, but--it's The Terminator on Blu-Ray! And, correct me if I'm wrong, but have the various DVD re-releases dumped the 2001 SE's bonus features? That would be sad!

And, then, of course, I find this thread today, which says that a T1 BD SE is forthcoming. Typical! Greatly looking forward to it, though.

I personally prefer T1 to T2--which is not a slight against T2. T1 is an amazing piece of filmmaking--a classic example of Art from Adversity. And, it's a complete story, a perfect circle. And it's so beautifully lonely and depressing, yet hopeful. It's as grim as a snuff movie, and does not compromise for the sake of making the audience happy like so many cookie-cutter "blockbusters" do today. 

T2 is an amazing ride that hinges on a loophole in the first film's tight narrative which allows the sequel to work. Really, there wasn't a need for a sequel, but T2 absolutely works.

The less said about the next two films, the better.


Anyway, I'm very big on historical accuracy and film preservation. T1 has major value to film history, and deserves to be preserved in its original form on BD. Glad to hear about the negatives being scanned, and I'm hopeful that the mono mix is included. The 5.1 mix has its pros and cons. It works well enough as a "gateway drug" to the film, since T1 is pretty obviously low-budget, and the low-budget mono mix might put off modern audiences with its lack of slickness--the 5.1 mix also brings the film closer to T2's audio sensibilities, so the two films can be tied a bit closer together. That said, the mix just doesn't fit the sensibilties of the film's vintage--it feels too artificial.

I loved the 2001 DVD, but still hope to see more in-depth features, such as the JC commentary and other odds and ends. The T2 releases are like a film school on disc, but T1 definitely deserves more attention! Glad to hear a new release is in the pipe!

My apologies to Van Ling but I have the Japanese Geneon Blu-ray release instead of your Skynet Edition with an over-abundance of DNR and EE. Maybe you'll get it right finally for a 20th Anniversary Edition with James Cameron in 2011?
Yes I would buy The Terminator on Blu-ray if the original mono track was lossless or even PCM. I really hate 5.1 remixes with changed or added foley. Just gets on my nerves really bad. Be sure to keep your hands off the DNR and EE controls so the film grain stays there.
Be sure to keep the original tints of the films too! No reddening up the image.
You know what would be fitting for The Terminator Blu-ray? A fitting tribute and dedication to the late and great Stan Winston.

Pretty sure Van isn't doing the transfer/encoding, so it'll be up to whoever IS to watch noise reduction/sharpening and color timing.  Agreed on the 5.1 -- though in the specific case of the Terminator, I'm not familiar with the original mono (I was a young'un when it was released theatrically, so my experience is all based on the DVD and Blu-Ray releases), in principle I feel the original audio should be included whenever possible.

Terminator Salvation is already dedicated to him. Would be weird to dedicate a film to him that was made while he was still alive, wouldn't it?

I don't think so.  Surely there have been films with a dedication to a participant who died after the production of the film.  Of course, what they might do is dedicate the production of the blu ray to him.

I meant a special feature about him and his work.

Thanks for the update Van

Can't Spielberg intervene on Universal and Dreamworks' behalf as far as the Jurassic Park films and A.I. are concerned? Or for that matter, couldn't Cameron call in a few favors?

(I realize this is all a gross simplification of what I'm sure is a complicated legal situation. Just a thought...) 

Just picked up a copy of the Canadian release, which should be the same as US/domestic version, but I can't play the easter eggs as outlined above.  I've tried right arrowing from all the options and all that happens is the menu collapses and highlights the BD-Live menu option.  Has any one managed to activate these trailers ?

I understand Mr Ling do not have control over the color timing of the movies, however I would like to use this platform to make a totally geeky color timing remark re any forthcoming T2 new transfert.

So this is adressed to whoever will redo the transfert for the 20th anniversary (and 3D) reissue. I hope you read this eventually :

There's one color timing fix I would love you guys to do, in accordance to what the movie looked like in the theaters.

In the scene where Arnold steps into the bikers bar, the color timing was originally, and in all theaters copies, blue, that is, Cameron blue. You can verify it by looking at the excerpts in the T2 making of (the 20mn one that is on the DVDs and was included in the first laserdisc box set), which was edited right before the movie came out.

For release on LD and all subsequent transferts, the whole scene was re-color timed to clear brown -- I suspect because it was too dark when viewed blue, on then low resolution television screens.

Since HD is now in, and screens are capable of displaying better color and resolutions, I think it would be fair if when re-colored, the scene is back to what it originally was, in accordance to the theaters print release. The way it plays now and the whole atmosphere always bothered me, because it wasn't what it looked like on screen.

I understand sometimes artistic fixes are made for home video transfert, when the filmmaker didn't have the time in the rush of post production to make the movie look like he wanted it to, but I believe this one was purely technical, and based only on how the scene would look on then low resolution tv screens.

That was my 5mn of totally sad geek request, thank you for listening :)

http://www.playusa.com/DVD/Region_1/STCS6/2-/13709479/The_Terminator/Product.html
Is this a new release? or a repackage?

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