Re: Terminator 1 & 2
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Originally Posted by Mentasm
Regarding the bitrate, I did a very quick (10 minutes) test with BD info last night and it hovered between 16-17Mbps.
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Originally Posted by Mentasm
Regarding the bitrate, I did a very quick (10 minutes) test with BD info last night and it hovered between 16-17Mbps.
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Originally Posted by merrick97
Its a COMPLETE waste of time.
Its just a repackage of the current bluray. Nothing more. |
| Heh, I deliberately didn't label them to keep people guessing The top image is from the new Skynet BD, while the bottom is from the older Optimum BD release. The Skynet disc looks to have better colour rendition and less grain, but I'm not 100% sure if it has as much detail as the bottom image (lines on her hands and face etc). It looks liek an improvement overall though. I'll take better colour/contrast and a cleaner image any day. It's also possible the US release will look better cause it won't have all those other language tracks |
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Originally Posted by dvdvision
The first check discs in europe have been sent to dvd sites, here's a review with lots of screencaps (french) :
Terminator 2 : Skynet Edition -Blu-Ray / Test Blu-Ray HD |
| video : To say that l' image of Terminator 2 proposed here comes very close to perfection would not be an absolute truth… Indeed, also amusing (and often époustouflant it is), the master film makes sometimes its age and certain plans trail, on rare occasion, behind the impeccable current standards in term of definition. Nevertheless, nothing d' alarming since the work of restoration and especially the copy proposed fill the gaps that l' one had been able to note on recent and already obsolete back issue of l' editor, who had a little blunder with master HD going back to 2000 and conceived for editions DVD! Here, the spectacle is jouissif with more d' a title and imposes true and obvious a redécouverte under idyllic conditions. So certain night sequences suffer sometimes d' a bluish noise d' origin, one does not count any more the prowesses d' an artistic director d' a great richness, supported by a tasty set of contrasts. In short, without being completely perfect, the film of Cameron is really beautiful and remains l' one of very rare Blu-Ray of the market has to be labellized THX. |
| Sound : Puisqu' one speaks about THX, the film s' open on the famous logo altered T2 way. This last is proposed in Full HD and especially in SDR 6.1 losseless which emerges without shouting station. One starts, one lowers the sound and one understands that l' one goes assiter to something of irrational. One n' is qu' with half surprised because James Cameron always polished with as much class than of brutality the band its of his film of which each back issue s' imposed like a demonstration devastator. Blu-Ray does not derogate extremely fortunately from the rule. A quite astonishing disc, in any case, taking into account sound technical diversity qu' he proposes. Indeed, between American, French and German, each one made his cooking according to its possibilities (would be this only compared to doubling) and one assists with some frightening contrasts d' a track with l' other which s' will adapt according to the tastes of each one. One will leave to side our German friends (and their SDR HD Lossless 7.1, which n' is nevertheless nothing) for s' to interest in what will turn in loop on our premises. To be completely frank, one does not know what took to the French technicians responsible for mixing 5.1 of film, but they had straightforwardly the heavy hand on the channel of low! This n' is more one box, c' is a tractor that l' one has at the house. One remembers that the first edition film at l' editor did not propose qu' Dolby Surround for the VF and that, to be caught up with, this last had proposed Dolby DIGITAL 5.1 a little more devastator for the second salvo, but c' is aujourd' today that the effects are made feel. In SDR HD 5.1 High Resolution, all, absolutely all is pretext with the tremor: music, noises of step, bikes (become of the tractors, therefore), slappings of door, sneezes… All! C' is inflated, c' is square, c' is a chouia free, but not completely unpleasant. Good-natured its which pète all in all. Side of the VO, one bails out d' SDR HD lossless 6.1 which makes of them less cases on the side of the low registers (in any case, which does not use them qu' at the most convenient moments), but which profits d' a width much more fluid with a total purity which makes really the difference. What does not waste of anything l' aspect striking of the scenes d' action, delivering some small auditive experiments, that and there, rather devastators… |
| Bonus : As evoked in introduction, this Blu-Ray de Terminator 2 gives all its noble letters to the concept d' interactivity, while rehabilitating its definition first. And yes, here, one interacts really and directly with same film! C' is quite simple, except some short small things (cut scenes, teasers and bandages advertisement), all is consultable directly during the reading of film, without leaving there, us authorizing to fork d' an element with l' other according to our desire. That l' one is fan absolute, or just curious to discover certain aspects, everyone will find satisfaction there! Let us note that the three versions of film are available: the version cinema (137min), the version director' S cut (154min), but also the version directors cut even longer, only accessible by password. How one is sympathetic, one gives it to you! It is necessary to be placed on the five asterisks, and to seize 82997. Code which corresponds to the date of the last judgement, on August 29, 1997 (08-29-97) in English. On the longer versions, the additional scenes are not doubled in French. Finally subtitled comments! Let us start the festivities with sobriety. Namely to them from now on impossible to circumvent audio comments, distributed here on two tracks. D' a side: James Cameron and his scenario writer William Wischer (recorded for l' edition of 2003), l' other, celebrates it comment utilizing not less than 26 people (recorded in 1993). The first satisfaction, and not of least: the comments are subtitled in French! " Enfin" let us be us tried to blow, so much disappointment was of setting for the anglophobes until there. A good thing of made, us allowing d' finally; to fully appreciate the glance of the realizer on l' one of its percussion films, on a first comment less unmethodical than the second, leaving him many time to develop aspect of film. Obviously, time will have made that on very many points, the film lost good number of its secrecies in 18 years of fascination (and yes, already), but c' is nostalgia and the glance d' author who prevails. C' is a fact, James Cameron who evokes l' numerical imagery, c' is often 1000 times more enthralling than of by n' import which d' other aujourd' today. And instead of making the guide (' ' there c' is numerical, there c' is réel' '), it brings its reflexions to us. A d' point of view of; as much more important qu' there remains the pionner d' a certain technology. In addition, to re-examine film later 12 years also authorized some lightnesies to him and this last does not dry up d' anecdotes enough amusing. L' a d' between them reveals, for example, that when qu' they are units on the motor bike, Arnold Schwarzenegger n' would not have stopped knocking by inadvertency Edward Furlong with its rifle. Liking, enriching, a true lesson of technical cinema and set of themes. For those which the technique fascine always, one can thus continue on the very complete second comment. Not less than 26 speakers (2-6!), which is hustled on only one and even track… Lastly, they do not hustle really puisqu' it s' acts primarily of small independent talks carried out by Van Ling, person in charge of the no-claims bonus on film since the first edition (but also of this Blu-Ray present). Not only, information really attractive for is bitten of setting in purely technical scene, but l' together remains d' a fluidity with any test. D' access because Van Ling takes care d' to introduce each speaker, but also because, Blu-Ray obliges, l' editor had l' excellent idea to propose small photographs of the latter beside their subtitles. Thus, one always knows who speaks without never being likely to confuse them the ones with the others. Impossible to be mistaken. An excellent initiative in any case! Thanks to Blu Ray one looks all the no-claims bonus during film! One passes then to l' enormous piece. A true flat good-natured of resistance which constitutes with him only a true exploration of several hours through the disc for most patient. Even if the visit of the slides of film is limited to its own duration (2h30, therefore), one is very quickly tempted to retrogress on many scenes, in order to redécouvrir them through new functions. To summarize, it s' d' acts; a version much more practical and more complete of l' infernal and interminable no-claims bonus of l' Ultimate edition where it was necessary to stuff a text and occasionally to fall on additional modules… The large bazaar in s' question; thus call Interactive modes and presents itself rather simply in the form d' a gray bar which s' post in top of l' screen as of the starting of film. C' is there that the things become complicated, and before fully taming l' tool, a few good minutes will be necessary. A disconcerting bit at the beginning, this system proposes to select six types of labels, which will very quickly become essential and amusing lorsqu' one has some seizes operation and the many possibilities: - The first label less offers a function PIP, not proposing than 69 small vidéos which will intervene of time to other, in a corner of l' screen. D' one duration bordering approximately 30 seconds at 2 minutes, they s' will delay primarily on the key scenes. One will know all about the turning of the scene in the future, of the dive of the truck, of the technical special effects, as well as twisting images of the scene of the bar (where Arnold n' is not only naked, but raises in more one multicoloured shorts fluo of the most beautiful effect) as well as the many comparative ones before/after numerical final improvements. 69 vidéos which profit from subtitles, but they should really well be sought. Indeed, beside the module discrete a small arrow appears. By precisely pressing the low arrow of your remote control, of the function additional appear, and allow to select subtitles, of zapper d' a video module with another (practical for the least patient) but also to look at them directly, without passing by film, on a secondary menu. It will be regretted just that, even by choosing this function, the windows remain small… - The second and third labels allow d' in turn; to have access to anecdotes in any kinds on film (on the actors, a tiny appearing detail with l' screen, etc) for l' one, thus qu' a very precise technical description for l' other, history of knowing how plans (linings, SFX, etc) are created. If these last are not unfortunately proposed qu' in English, they are sufficiently summary to remain comprehensible for those which have some concepts. In addition, one will be amused to see arrows appearing of time to other on l' image to explain what exactly l' one speaks (as on discrete placements of marks, for example). - The fourth label proposes elements known as " connectés". C' be-with-to say qu' a panel appears and d' proposes to us; to stop a few seconds (or minutes) film to reach d' others vidéos or photograph galleries with accompanying notes. Durations about equivalent to those evoked in the paragraph devoted to the PIP, these last are 59, and are also consultable separately, with or without subtitles by the same means of ' ' arrow bas' '. A small flat, at least for l' specimen that we had, since these small vidéos makes l' d' object; light a bug which strongly jerks their unfolding. If the sound n' in does not suffer, we have d' access believed qu' it s' d' acted; a series of ravelling photographs… Their short duration does not waste the pleasure, but guarantee that the product placed at the disposal in the trade will have rectified this detail. - Lastly, the fifth and sixth labels are there like comparative tools. L' one gives access to the scenario (unfortunately, written in English) and l' other with the story-board, always during the reading of film. A good way of noting the similarities or the differences between film such qu' he was thought before turning, and the end result with l' screen. Moreover, it will be regretted nevertheless a little that the story-boards are not more numerous, although the step is more appreciable. All that is owl… very owl. But noncontent d' to be pleasant to follow independently from/to each other, one can also cumulate these labels the ones with the others according to the possibilities. More exactly, in the way in which distributed we them above. Pip only goes all alone, but the anecdotes and the indications of turning can be posted units, stopped by the additional elements, just like the scenario and the story-board can be supplemented side by side, with film in backdrop. |
| Last word : There are two more things that l' one can make during film, history of s' to amuse. D' a share, there is a quizz, a truth quizz which appears time with other in bottom of l' screen (in French) and which enable us to test our knowledge on film with a question and four answers possible. How in Which wants to gain million! With, B, C or D, or Green, Red, Yellow or Blue for those which want directly to use the keys of the remote control. The film is put in pause, the question is put and the answer occurs naturally in film a few seconds later… The " answer in image" , like one says to the TV… There still a sympathetic function, but which is done well too rare with the length of film for qu' one hangs completely. The concept would have gained to be more alive… Concurrently to that, one can also play during film, with mini-plays a little headache to be solved in an assigned time: puzzles, mental calculation, enigmas, etc are with the program d' a function which has l' enormous advantage of making us pass d' directly; a play with l' other if it is wished. And to finish! One sees the end of it… The things n' definitely not being made with half, this disc proposes the teaser, the two bands official announcements as well as the band announces director' S cut and the logo THX, ALL IN FULL HD! Here are which proves the care taken to this edition. S' to that the two cut scenes add (like what, Cameron makes really this qu' he wants on his films), which are those which l' one can reinstate in film via the quoted code a little higher, accompanied by comments of the realizer and the actors and obviously proposed in HD. Lastly, a function Accès Skynet allows us d' to have access to functions Internet since the reader (an update with profile 2.0 s' minimum; impose). We, one tested d' there to go, but since this edition n' is still in the trade nowhere in the world, one fell on a beautiful waiter (French) completely vacuum. Not d' friends and of innovations to be added not yet, therefore, but the things should be richer in May/June. |
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Originally Posted by Mentasm
Funny thing with BD is that the enhanced resolution really shows up he wires and stuff (when Arnie jumps the bike).
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Originally Posted by Van Ling
Sreve and Brian, Region A is not region free, sorry. If you want to complain, do so to Studio Canal. As owner of the film, they can force their licensee Lionsgate to do it, especially since unlike on previous Lionsgate titles, Studio Canal actually actively partnered with them on T2... which means they also controlled the budget and what I was able to do or not do on the disc to some extent.
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Originally Posted by Van Ling
Seriously? Are you sure this is not DNR coming from your display device or hardware?
I'm not sure what you're seeing exactly, but it's the SAME Cameron-approved master we used for the previous BD and for both the European and Japanese versions, and was remastered for significant dirt cleanup only... I specifically asked them to do NO automated digital noise removal at all on it, and the transfer and encode looked fine... and the new VC-1 encode seemed to look significantly better than the MPEG2 version from 2006 (although that may be a matter of opinion). V |


