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I agree. I thought they could have come up with something a little more ingenious, for such a genius, and I thought that there would be more of a twist involved with the wife's death. Then when the judge ordered that the first wife's body be exhumed "in the morning" my immediate thought was "well then you'd better have the grave guarded tonight." But conveniently no one bothered.

The part about Monk nearly planting evidence was also a little weak. As much as it bothered him that the guy was getting away with it he wouldn't do that (and climbing in a window should have been more of a challenge for Monk with his phobias).

Anyway, these are mostly nitpicks. Still an enjoyable show, just not one of its finest episodes.

I caught a woman's name during the opening credits, middle name was Shaloub. I forget the rest of it and I don't know if it was an actor or what. Anybody know the story there? Must be related to Tony.
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Am I the only one who thought the 'irresistable Poison Pawn' would be the wife herself, and that she was somehow involved with the plan?
No, you're not alone. I thought she was making the whole thing up in order to conceal the possibility that she would kill her husband (maybe in some sort of contrived self-defense). But when she was actually killed early on, I gave up on that, obviously. Then I thought that the match that her husband won (that she heard about from the housekeeper, and which she saw part of on the screen) was somehow involved in her death -- maybe through some kind of ultrasonics on the part of her husband, or something! It's neat how Monk keeps me thinking, though.
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I agree. I thought they could have come up with something a little more ingenious, for such a genius, and I thought that there would be more of a twist involved with the wife's death. Then when the judge ordered that the first wife's body be exhumed "in the morning" my immediate thought was "well then you'd better have the grave guarded tonight." But conveniently no one bothered.
I would have liked for them to have guarded the grave immediately and still have him switch the grave stones (ie. he thought of it either before Monk found out about the first wife or between their chess game and the hearing the next day)

I liked the episode a lot and thought the murder was suitably intelligent. Mainly, though, I liked seeing Shaloub and David Strathairn square off against each other. One of the better "Monk" villains in a while.

I also liked the opening with Natalie arguing with Monk about the paycheck; it reminded me a lot of the Monk/Sharona dynamic. Of course Natalie's desperation for money is a little less plausible now that she's patched things up with her very rich 'rents.

And is it just me or does the girl who plays Julie tower over Traylor Howard now? Natalie only came up to Julie's eyeline in this episode, so I was shocked to see the former in heels and the latter in flats. One of those funny unpredictabilities in casting children for a series, though I suppose Natalie's strapping late military hero husband could have come from a family of giants.
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And is it just me or does the girl who plays Julie tower over Traylor Howard now? Natalie only came up to Julie's eyeline in this episode, so I was shocked to see the former in heels and the latter in flats. One of those funny unpredictabilities in casting children for a series, though I suppose Natalie's strapping late military hero husband could have come from a family of giants.

Not unrealistic that Julie would grow so quickly. My son shot up between his freshman and sophomore year of high school.
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Susan Shaloub Larkin (sometimes credited as Susan Larkin, according to TV.com) played Paulina, the housekeeper. She doesn't seem to have a listing on the IMDB under any version of the name, so I can't check any other credits. Given her age, I'd guess she's Shaloub's sister, using either a married name or a stage name with her original surname as the middle name. Maybe she's been a stage work and this was way for her to earn her SAG card. (Just in time for the strike. )

Anyway, I thought it was a good episode. I always like it when Natalie gets fiesty, and Shaloub does one of the greatest tightwads since the glory days of Jack Benny.

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though I suppose Natalie's strapping late military hero husband could have come from a family of giants.

Genes are funny things. I had a teacher in high school who was nearly 6'5" - his paternal grandfather was a jockey. I'm 6'2" and my brother-in-law is 6'4". He had eight guys in his wedding party - all but three of us were his fellow football players from Duke. I would have been the runt of the litter were it not for his best man at 5'6" and his older brother at 5'8". (His younger brother was too young to be in the wedding - but was already nearly 6", as was his sister, who was my age and wore flats.)

And I'm another one who shot up several inches in one summer in high school, in my case between sophomore and junior years.

Regards,

Joe
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Loved "Mr. Monk Gets Lotto Fever". Natalie letting fame go to her head and Monk's reaction to it all were great. I also loved how the bus-side advertisement gave Natalie some cleavage that nature didn't - shades of Kiera Knightley. But I thought she still looked awfully cute in the show gowns.

"Cartoon hippies..."



Regards,

Joe
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My only quibble with Friday's episode is that one of the shots during the opening murder lingered a little too long on the attacker and I noticed it was Whitey from ABC's hilarious failure "Sons & Daughters". Fortunately, he went ahead and killed the lotto freak less than halfway through the episode anyway. I also liked how they integrated Monk's lesser dependence on wipes into the episodes. Apparently he's improved enough that he only needs them for liquids now.
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As soon as I saw "O-Face" (from Office Space), I knew he was the guy.
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Is it just me, or has this been the best season comedy-wise in a long time? I haven't watched from the beginning of the show, but I've probably seen from around season 4 on, and this season has had me laughing out loud more than anything in a while. Maybe the mysteries aren't as good, etc, but its been funnier to me.
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Did anyone else catch the referances to Crimson Tide? There were two guys named 'Mr. Wepps' and 'Mr. Cobb' lol.

I was shocked that they even managed to get Adrian onto the sub even for only three minutes.
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I hope I have the line right:

"That's not a boat. That's the opposite of a boat."

I loved this line.
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Thought the submarine episode was pretty good overall. The delusions of the therapist being present were funny. My quibbles with this episode:

- security seemed pretty lax for civilians coming onto a nuclear sub. Natalie's friend just walks them on board without anybody paying much attention and the captain not knowing about it? The captain just ships out abruptly and the crew didn't know they were leaving? How did he know all his staff and crew were back on board?

- The scenes entering and exiting the sub were so obviously fake and shot indoors.

- There was little attempt to place any doubt that the captain was the guilty party.

- Monk's continuing penchant for confronting the suspect when he's still in a position to be harmed by him. What purpose did it serve to accuse the captain to his face at that point, other than to make sure Monk ends up in peril shortly thereafter.
post #43 of 122

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I noticed alot of that stuff too, but I figured "hey, it's Monk, I can't expect Das Boot or The Hunt for Red October" lol.

Speaking of THFRO there were a couple of exterior shots of the sub borrowed from that film.
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I really enjoyed this episode, particularly the hilarious intro with Randy and his date, but it did feel like a bit of a rehash of the first season episode "Mr. Monk and the Other Woman". The details varied quite extensively, but the infatuation was the same. Didn't feel quite as special the second time around.
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but it did feel like a bit of a rehash of the first season episode "Mr. Monk and the Other Woman".

I thought the same thing myself, although the infatuation this time felt a little more "real", I was actually beginning to ask myself that impossible question..."Could this be it? The woman who Adrian comes to love and who will rescue him from his world and bring closure to Trudy?"

I actually feared she would, that would mean that the end is near and I don't want that just yet.

We already caught a pretty rock solid glimpse of Natalie's future, Casper Van Dean will come back to town and she'll go off with him at the end, i'm willing to bet on it.

Johanna Pacula hasn't really aged too well IMO, when she was young...my lord she was freakin' gorgeous.
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We already caught a pretty rock solid glimpse of Natalie's future, Casper Van Dean will come back to town and she'll go off with him at the end, i'm willing to bet on it.

Speaking of Casper Van Dien, the official USA Network site for "Monk" has introduced a podcast called "Lunch at Monk".

Monk TV Series, Detective Monk Television Show - USA Network -Lunch At Monk Podcast
post #47 of 122
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Fun little confection of a milestone episode tonight. I loved all of the interviews within the program. It does raise some interesting continuity questions though; if this is Monk's 100th (and 101st) case since returning to work, and there have been 100 episodes with cases solved, wouldn't that mean that we've seen literally every case for the police that he's worked on? Kind of neat. Factoring in the occasional episode where he's NOT working for the SFPD, that still only leaves a case or two we haven't seen.
post #48 of 122

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Fun little confection of a milestone episode tonight. I loved all of the interviews within the program. It does raise some interesting continuity questions though; if this is Monk's 100th (and 101st) case since returning to work, and there have been 100 episodes with cases solved, wouldn't that mean that we've seen literally every case for the police that he's worked on? Kind of neat. Factoring in the occasional episode where he's NOT working for the SFPD, that still only leaves a case or two we haven't seen.

i really liked the format of this episode as well. It was predictable as hell though, mystery-wise. The fake death thing at the end was pretty good though. I figured they had done that at the beginning of an episode for a reason, but the payoff worked well.
post #49 of 122

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Happy 100th Monk!

Although i'm not so sure that count is accurate, though, it just feels off to me as I seem to recall an episode where he solved a murder as a throwaway early on, it was the one where he was working at a carwash whe he was hiding out, so he solved two cases in that episode.

Or are they only counting the cases he solved for the SFPD? But even if that's the case it still throws off the concept and theme for the 100th epiosde.

I don't know lol.

The one part that I thought was very poignant was when Adrian was being interviewed about Trudy and what keeps him going he said "I can't die...not knowing."

That was very revealing in terms of how deeply Adrian needs to solve this case and it's the ultimate answer to the question.
post #50 of 122

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Actually, if you need to rationalize it, I think it makes perfect sense to just count "official SFPD" cases. That would bring the case numbers we've actually seen to less than 100, and you can just assume that there are 20 or so cases that we never saw over the years.

Again, IF you need to rationalize it...
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IF you need to rationalize it...

Nah, i'm just picking nits lol. Would Adrian Monk do anything less?
post #52 of 122

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They advertised Sharon Lawrence being on this ep, and I don't think I saw her. Did I miss it? Was it along with the other in jail people?
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They advertised Sharon Lawrence being on this ep, and I don't think I saw her. Did I miss it? Was it along with the other in jail people?
I didn't notice her either, though if she was that's where she'd be. Her interview probably got cut for time. I was really hoping we'd have gotten an interview with Sharona about Monk as part of his biography, considering the iconic nature of the episode.
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It was predictable as hell though, mystery-wise.

I was actually a little fooled, because I thought Eric McCormack had killed all the victims - including the photographer. My theory until fairly late in the episode:

The TV host found his victims while looking for actresses for the recreations used in his TV show. He chose them from head shots sent over by agents, but was careful a) not to audition them for his show, so there would be no connection to him and b) limit his choices to women who got their head shots from the same photographer, which would give the the police an automatic suspect if they connected the murders. He then used his access to the story to keep pointing the cops in the direction of the photographer and finally murdered him to shut down the investigation.

Regards,

Joe
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I loved this week's episode. But I was way off--I thought the murderer was going to end up being Randy's girlfriend. I figured she would either be the murderer or be killed. And I completely fell for the ending--that was very well done.

I also appreciated all of the return characters. And Harold Krenshaw was funny as usual--I loved his "Let's not get ahead of ourselves."

On a related note, we've been working our way through Season Six of Monk. Tonight, we watched "Mr. Monk Is Up All Night." It had been a while since we had seen that one. This truly is a show I will be able to watch over and over throughout the years and never tire of it.
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I wasn't expecting to see Harold in this week's episode also. Scott, he was equally funny last night.

Both "Monk" and "Psych" will be back on November 28th for their annual Christmas episodes.

And there's a new "Lunch at Monk" podcast up with creator Andy Breckman on the official USA Network site:

http://www.usanetwork.com/series/mon...cenes/podcast/
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I wasn't expecting to see Harold in this week's episode also. Scott, he was equally funny last night.
Chris,

Both "Monk" and "Psych" will be back on November 28th for their annual Christmas episodes.
I love Harold Krenshaw. And the closing to an episode I recently watched (with Disher doing the freezing routine) was wonderful. His bickering with the 'professional' frozen man reminded me of Monk and Krenshaw.

BTW, I taped Monk last night, and haven't yet seen it. That should be fun tonight.
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Monk was awesome this week lol! I was getting such a kick out of Adrian's regression into a 7 year-old.

For some reason I just started busting out laughing whenever I heard 'Hoppy' the frog croak out of nowhere lol.

It was nice to see that the show didn't take the obvious turn, a turn I was sure it would, that Harold ended up getting the same psyciatrist as Adrian thus continuing the feud with one another.

Also, always nice to see Dina Meyer, always had a thing for that woman.
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Good episode. I like that Monk solved the case while regressed to about the age of seven. It was nice for him to experience some happiness for a little bit, even though the world quickly wore him back down. The gum bit was probably the grossest they've ever gone.
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Yesterday USA announced that Monk's 8th Season will be it's last. While I find this a bit sad, I'm glad the show will be getting a proper send off. We all knew this would have to happen eventually. I'm just glad the show is going out on top.

Note that Season 7 continues in January and and Season 8 doesn't begin until July 2009.

Monk to Clean Up for One Last Season - E! Online



Monk to Clean Up for One Last Season

Fri., Nov. 14, 2008 4:25 PM PST by Natalie Finn
Monk USA Network

After six years of getting his hands dirty and then vigilantly scrubbing them clean, Monk is gearing up—probably pretty carefully—for his last case.

USA announced Friday that it has picked up its Emmy-winning detective series Monk for an eighth and final season that will air next summer.

The "Characters Welcome" network has ordered up 16 episodes, and E! News is hearing that the finale will clue Monk in on who killed his dearly departed wife, Trudy, the tragedy that turned him into the OCD-addled mystery-solver who cable audiences have come to love.

"We want to build to a spectacular conclusion for this wonderful show," said Jeff Wachtel, executive VP of original programming for USA Network.

"By many measures, Monk is the most successful series in the history of basic cable television—and it was certainly the original tentpole of our 'Character' brand. Our fans have been extremely dedicated and season eight should prove to be a very satisfying reward."

Monk, which marked its 100th episode last month, averaged 5 million viewers per episode in 2008, so the series definitely isn't being put out to pasture on a downswing.

On whether playing such a neurotic, tic-ridden character has rubbed off on him over the years, three-time Emmy winner Tony Shalhoub told USA Weekend in June:

"I think I had low levels of those kinds of quirks, as a lot of people really do, but it's definitely grown over time. I'm not really the kind of actor who brings my work home with me so much, normally, but I sort of feel infected by this character in a way. I think about things that I normally wouldn't otherwise."
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