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post #31 of 48
7/12/08 at 5:06pm

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Originally Posted by TonyD
true but on the other hand their sd pricing is about the same as current BR pricing.

But...Criterion is more or less in a class by themselves. They've always been in the business of producing premium, limited appeal titles and editions of those titles. The fact that their BD will be priced the same as their SD titles, is music to my ears, especially when according to the current market approach, they would logically charge a premium for hi-def content.
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post #32 of 48
7/12/08 at 6:47pm

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I clicked on this thread thinking that the OP put it up 2 years ago....

I always had the hunch that BRD was going to win the format war, and originally was going to put off any purchase until either 1) one side won or 2) dual-format drives got cheap.

Then last summer the Paramount/Universal switch to HUD exclusivity got me to buy a cheap HUD drive (Toshiba HD-A2). $100 net price after freebie HUD discs.

Then I got pissed when HUD died suddenly.

Then I got a Magnavox cheapie BRD drive via Wallyworld. $200 net after gift card rebate (which I spent in an afternoon on motor oil, filters, ammo, and food).

So I'm out $300 for a "dual format" drive. So it's in two boxes. BFD.

Now I can stop buying any SD DVDs since I can rationalize it as waiting for HD versions.
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post #33 of 48
7/12/08 at 8:24pm

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Originally Posted by Dennis Nicholls
So I'm out $300 for a "dual format" drive. So it's in two boxes. BFD.



Glib SOB!
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post #34 of 48
7/12/08 at 10:29pm
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Well, you've all made significant arguments in opposition to my original post, and I thank you. I would never claim to be an expert, I merely have a consumer's reaction to a format which I have not yet invested in. You have all actually convinced me that Blu-Ray is a better deal than I considered it to be from the outside. For those of you who made remarks such as "Here we go again" or Dick must have written this two years ago and is just posting it now - well, the fact that thirty-odd replies have been posted in a short time indicates I stirred up some controversy, which is probably never a bad thing. I fully intend to eventually buy into Blu-Ray, I am simply hoping that mass production will bring the software prices down so that I can add titles at a rate comparable to that of standard DVD's. I believe that will happen over time. I love this forum!
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post #35 of 48
7/12/08 at 11:13pm

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I don't care about special features as much as I used to. Sd dvd cured me of that. Hours and hours of mind numbing bullshit that takes you inside every aspect of a movie kills my love for it at times. I do love commentary tracks though. 1080p and lossless audio on the other hand is why I got into Blu-ray. If I never have to sit through another behind the scenes Terminator special it'll be to damn soon. Prices at this point are what they are and not that bad. If the prices are to high for some than keep getting sd dvds. Where's the problem?
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post #36 of 48
7/13/08 at 9:01am

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Originally Posted by Dick
Well, you've all made significant arguments in opposition to my original post, and I thank you. I would never claim to be an expert, I merely have a consumer's reaction to a format which I have not yet invested in. You have all actually convinced me that Blu-Ray is a better deal than I considered it to be from the outside. For those of you who made remarks such as "Here we go again" or Dick must have written this two years ago and is just posting it now - well, the fact that thirty-odd replies have been posted in a short time indicates I stirred up some controversy, which is probably never a bad thing. I fully intend to eventually buy into Blu-Ray, I am simply hoping that mass production will bring the software prices down so that I can add titles at a rate comparable to that of standard DVD's. I believe that will happen over time. I love this forum!

I'd think that everyone here would like BD Software prices to drop especially from certain studios (Fox/MGM).

For me having been into this for over a year and a half now, the wow/newness factor of High-def has worn off some, and with more and more good titles getting announced, pricing is starting to become an issue with me. What I was willing to spend per disc last year when good titles were few and far between is considerably less now.

$40 MSRP ($28 discounted) for 1080P, lossless audio is still worth it to me depending on the title but I'm going to be much more selective in what I buy in the future. A lot of borderline titles that I would purchase at $15-$20 a pop without blinking are going to be a no sale at $28-$30.

For example I'm very curious to how MGM prices the upcoming Bond titles or if they'll be Boxed only, individual releases or both. If the best price I can get for the first 20 Bonds is $28 a pop ($560 for all ) that isn't going to fly with me so I'd probably cut back and limit it to my 10 favorite Bond titles - Dr No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me and Goldeneye.

Yeah I'm starting to lean into the "prices need to drop" camp.
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post #37 of 48
7/13/08 at 9:11am

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Compared to what I paid for some DVD's early on, some Blu Rays are a steal.
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post #38 of 48
7/13/08 at 9:34am

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Originally Posted by troy evans
I don't care about special features as much as I used to. Sd dvd cured me of that. Hours and hours of mind numbing bullshit that takes you inside every aspect of a movie kills my love for it at times.

Yeah, I sometimes think people value these more as bullet points on the box cover than for the features themselves.

And I'll never understand why people think they are FORCED to re-buy everything. Movie production is not going to stop & old DVD's work just fine. Buy new stuff in HD and keep your current collection. What's wrong with that?
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post #39 of 48
7/13/08 at 10:17am

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Originally Posted by Eddie W.
And I'll never understand why people think they are FORCED to re-buy everything. Movie production is not going to stop & old DVD's work just fine. Buy new stuff in HD and keep your current collection. What's wrong with that?

Not a cotton-picking, gravy-licking thang, Eddie!!!!!!!!!!

At first, I bought some HD DVD's and Blu-ray discs over again which I already had DVD's on for the purpose of building up my collection once I got into the business of buying high-def discs.

But now, I only focus on those titles new and/or which I do not previously own on DVD.

And if I already have the title on HD DVD...I shall NOT repeat the purchase again on Blu-ray!!!!!
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post #40 of 48
7/15/08 at 5:17pm

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Hola mi amiga especial, Tina! Haven't you ever been taken hostage by heavily armed studio executives offering Blu-ware and your life for a few dollars more, anywhich way they can. Well it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world. After my experience, when I see a suit in shades with a sawed-off, I go to the other side of the boulevard, pronto.

"....media is like weather, only it's man-made weather...."
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post #41 of 48
7/15/08 at 11:24pm

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Originally Posted by Tina_H_V
Not a cotton-picking, gravy-licking thang, Eddie!!!!!!!!!!

At first, I bought some HD DVD's and Blu-ray discs over again which I already had DVD's on for the purpose of building up my collection once I got into the business of buying high-def discs.

But now, I only focus on those titles new and/or which I do not previously own on DVD.

And if I already have the title on HD DVD...I shall NOT repeat the purchase again on Blu-ray!!!!!
I agree with you wholeheartedly on your very last part of your post, Tina. I also figure if the HDDVD/Blu-ray carries over EVERYTHING from the DVD I own then it's safe to upgrade to the High Definition disc version and sell off the DVD.
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post #42 of 48
7/16/08 at 6:00am

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Slightly off topic question: Aren't we out of the "early adopter" phase? HW profiles have been standardised, as Dennis mentioned he picked up a player (I think it's even 1.1 Bonusview) at Walmart for $200. While SW prices are still high and it's not mainstream, it seems like after being on the market for a few years that we have left the "early adopter" phase and moved on to the "waiting for mass market consumer acceptance" phase.
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post #43 of 48
7/16/08 at 6:14am

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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich
Slightly off topic question: Aren't we out of the "early adopter" phase?

I believe so. IMO: Early adopters = format war.

Of course, Blu-ray has a long way to became "mainstream", but it´s certainly not the "first phase" anymore.
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post #44 of 48
7/16/08 at 6:29am

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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich
Slightly off topic question: Aren't we out of the "early adopter" phase?
Absolutely.

As was noted in the third post of this thread, the OP's stated reasons had merit in 2006. Today they're not accurate, and the whole first page of this thread was devoted to correcting the OP's misstatements of fact.

M.
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post #45 of 48
7/16/08 at 6:38am

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Originally Posted by Dick
..indicates I stirred up some controversy, which is probably never a bad thing.

Sure, but I guess many of us got "2 years worth of controversy" back in the "format war" days.. I mean e.g. "T2" was released in June 27, 2006..
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post #46 of 48
7/16/08 at 10:40am

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the whole first page of this thread was devoted to correcting the OP's misstatements of fact.

That's what I get for reading the first post and skipping to the end with my $.02
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post #47 of 48
7/16/08 at 5:57pm

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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich
That's what I get for reading the first post and skipping to the end with my $.02

It sure is ya bum!

Course i did the same thing. THEN i went back and read it all.

No...i really did read it all.
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post #48 of 48
7/18/08 at 6:30pm

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Yes, Rachael dear, I always run to the other side whenever I see those goons with the suits, shades and sawed-offs on the same street approaching as well!!!!!!

And thanks for the kind word, Ray. I have also done away with many of my old DVD's which I picked up in Hi-Def disc form as well, particularly those early HD/DVD combo discs, such as Brokeback Mountain and Good Night and Good Luck, just to name a couple.
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