Inglorious Bastards (Tarantino)  

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I remember him mentioning M Madsen, T Roth, S Jackson and A Sandler as well in the past. Wonder if hes still considering them.


I havent seen the original film prob since the very early 80s, but remember it pretty well, I watched it so many times.

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I remember those casting rumors as well. I'll take any Tarantino I can get though, hopefully this one comes out.

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i actualy like one of the original ideas of using 80's action stars

arnie
sly
bruce
chuck
jean claude
segal

now that would have been a hoot

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I heard rumors that Tarantino wanted former Beatle Ringo Starr in one of his films. Hey, it wouldn't be so outlandish when you consider that Ringo played a Mexican bandit in a 1972 spaghetti western called BLINDMAN .

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I think during an interview for The Incredible Hulk (maybe on Ain't It Cool), Tim Roth said that he hadn't talked to QT about this movie for quite awhile and he wasn't sure that he was the right age to still play the part that he and Tarantino had talked about originally.

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Now that's what I was hoping to hear. Schwarzenneger, Stallone and Willis together. I know that was the original plan a few years ago (of course things have changed since then) but I do hope it still comes to pass.

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Wow, no posts complaining about more remakes.

I find it a little strange that he's going after someone like Pitt considering he usually uses actors who are "out of the game" so to speak. Perhaps he's needing a hit after the whole GRINDHOUSE thing or perhaps he's going to try something new or mainstream.

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I always thought Arnold would be perfect to play the ultimate Nazi soldier.

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It would be great, but I think he's a bit too John Wayne in his persona now to doo something like that.

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what i get and what i expect are not always the same thing first i loved grindhouse, Russell in mock 70's car sleaze, hell yeah , just look at EFNY, he already did 70's exploitation, going back to some of his roots,

QT is good at finding that right person sort of like the Coen Bros. even if it doesnt work with the general public, it will still be great. ian i expect that some classic cult figure will make some kind of appearance ala Michael Parks, so smile kiddies this could be a fun ride,

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Thing is, seeing the classic cult figures in the Tarantino movies never feels like he's throwing them a bone to kick start their careers, they feel RIGHT for the movie, and the part they are playing. As opposed to hustling to get a hot actor for the business at the box office.

I've trusted his instincts so far, I'll continue to. I'm excited for this one.

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know what you mean, parks owned that role, same with robert forester so many good actors that normally would get over looked, but think about RD, every one of the parts is a well written part that could have been done ba a really good group of charater actors.

was kind of hoping to hear from his counterpart RR what he has in store next.

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This is an exception - it's Tarantino we're talking about.

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So basically this is an American remake of an Italian remake of The Dirty Dozen?

How original.

Satisfied now?

Why make this as two films? The original material doesn't look like it has enough depth to support two films.

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What I like about the whole "Tarantino just rips off everyone else, he makes no origianl films" thing is: He never pretends that he's not being influenced, and he's making movies better then many of the ones he's supposedly ripping off. Nearly every film he's made has become a part of pop culture... I'm pretty sure none of the kids "KUNG FU PANDA" is aimed for knew where the trailer music came from. I'd watch "Kill Bill" any night of the week over all the films it "ripped off".

Also, it seemed like the year "Pulp Fiction" came out, every film dealing with crime purported to "out pulp Pulp fiction", no one really remembers those one anymore... but "Pulp Fiction" that ripped off all the noirs and that is still being quoted....

Theres a difference between "ripping off" ideas, and playing with Genre. Tarantino is a master at genre, I think only Scorcese can touch him (or Tarantino is close to Scorses with genre films might be the better phrase... XD) out of everyone making films today.

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I posted that as a joke, because some people seemed concerned that there were no comments about a remake being done. It was tongue-in-cheek.

I do not necessarily equate remake with "rip-off". If the person doing the remake succeeds in putting his/her own imprint on the material then it can in no way be called a "rip-off".

In reality, the only remake that could be considered a "rip-off" is the one that slavishly copies the original. The shot for shot remake of PSYCHO would be a good example of a "rip-off" remake.

Scorsese remade Infernal Affairs as The Departed, but no one in their right mind could accuse him of producing a "rip-off", at least IMO.

Tarantino has taken obscure films and sucdeeded in remaking them into something unique. At the same time, he ends up giving new life to the films he chooses to remake, because a least some portion of his audience will be curious enough to track down the original film and watch it, in order to learn what QT saw in it in the first place.

That being said I do not think that there is a need to remake every film under the sun. I think there really are films that are fine as they are. The Day The Earth Stood Still,for example, is a film that I think will not be served by a remake.

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this thread should be about "Inglourious Basterds."

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For those interested, heres links to a few pics from the original....

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"I'd watch "Kill Bill" any night of the week over all the films it "ripped off". "

Shaw Bros studios made some really great movies. Shaolin Martial Arts directly influenced the training sequences in KB. That film features both the board punching training as well as the hurt hand not able to hold chopsticks scene as well. Its one of my alltime favorite films. The film splits martial arts fans. People see it as a bore or a martials arts masterpiece.

Quite a few Shaw films are in my top 100 including Tiger Killer,Avenging Eagle,36th Chamber of Shaolin, Disciples of Shaolin, One Armed Swordsman(truly one of the most important HK films ever made) and The Duel.

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It is. Since it is a remake I think it's okay to talk about it.

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It isn't a remake though, the script is wholly original apparently.

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"Inglourious Basterds" being a sly reference to QT's spelling-challenged cover page on the script floating around online.

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What's interesting is that from the leaked tidbits, this sounds like a Jewsploitation movie. It sounds like Tarantino's take on "Munich". Don't really know how Brad Pitt fits into there though.

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Duh, on my part but I thought that leaked screenplay was a fake?


No Tarantino screenplay is original. He certainly makes it his own but dialogue, music, scenes and so on are borrowed from these lesser known films. Tarantino is very fond of the original film and since it does have a similar story, I wouldn't go as far as to call this an original.

If he's going after Pitt then it seems like he wants/needs a big budget.

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As we know, if Tarantino really ripped off other movies, his films would be exactly like those movies. They aren't.

Comparing Tarantino to Scorsese is problematic, IMO. Their superficial similarities- violence, use of music, language, and so on- too often invite awkward comparisons that rarely result in insightful new thoughts. Scorsese is interested in complex explorations of human nature, guilt, obsession, repression...his films have antecedents in life. Tarantino's work reflects interests that are wholly different (as Sam Jackson says, "it ain't even the same f*ckin' sport!"). Whose interests fascinates you more is wholly your own preference. I happen to enjoy both quite a bit.

Latino review has a monologue. If spouted by the right actor, it would be brilliant.

My question is, how the heck will he get Brad Pitt?? Pitt is currently shooting for Malick in Tree of Life, and then he's set for Aranofsky's The Fighter. Tarantino wants this out in time for Cannes '09. How will that work?

Here's some more info, courtesy of darkhorizons (July 10):



Regards,
Nathan

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Here's another link. The article considers the possibility that this latest script, the one that broke the other day, might be a fake, so you may be right Michael.

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I haven't seen "Shaolin Martial Arts", but have some of the others you mentioned and they are good films. I was referring more to the current spate of colour costumed folks floating about/comedic films that seems to have strangled all the life out of the martial arts genre. All the stuff in KILL BILL, wether directly influeced from a particular film or not, are all part of that genre. If you've seen the film you mentioned, then you instantly recognize it, I saw it as a hilarious homage to every film that has the mean old guy who trains the upstart, like... nearly every 1970s Jackie Chan film.

Which is also why I mentioned Scorses. Your right, tmeatically, Scorsese and Tarantino are very different in what they explore in their films thematically. What they are both great at are adapting genre pictures for their own means. Any Scorses film feels like a Scorses film, regardless of if it's a gangster, domestic drama, horror thriller, or period piece. Tarantinno does this too. something that Scorses reffered to as "Filmaker as a Mavarick" in that personal Journey through American film documentary he did. A great director can take any film given him, and explore personal issues. Admittedly, I don't get alot of deep issues from a lot of Tarantinos stuff, as far as life messages, but in all that dialog, there are some incredibly true moments about purpose, things like that.

I think what turns some off Tarantino to is just him himself. On the Death Proof DVD, he talks about how he didn't just wanted to do a car chase movie, he wanted to do the greatest car chase movie ever, with the greatest car chase in it. That type of honest admitance turns people off. I find it funny, and for the most part, he's pretty much blown many of the movies he's referenced out of the water.

All this talk about Spaghetti Western influence in Bastards though kinda confuses me. KILL BILL played like a natural move in the Spaghetti western genre if you think about it. Kurosawa was influeced by John Ford, and made Samurai movies as substitute westerns, then Leone shows up, loving the Samurai movies and adapts them to what becomes Spaghetti Westerns, the genre dies and Tarantino shows up with KILL BILL and mashed the Samurais into texas, or where ever the bulk of it takes place. It has western themes of redemption, honor, and romance... pretty much works as a Spaghetti Western homage IMO.

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Sounds like THE DIRTY DOZEN naziploitation style.

I've read a few more pages about that leaked script. Some claim it is his script due to all the misspelled words as this is apparently a part of his writing abilities.