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So if they go the Popeye route, two smaller releases a year, how much longer would it take to complete this? I don't think going a character specific route at this time would be profitable, b/c for every 5 people that pick up the Bugs Bunny cartoons, you might just get one that picks up the Porky, and that would really kill the line off fast. I think once every cartoon is release, however long that actually takes, then they can go the WDT route and release the complete Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck sets.

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I'm much happier hitting the "play all" when the cartoon characters are mixed versus 2 hours of the same character.

And who is going to buy a set of The Complete Buddy?

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Hey, don't knock Foghorn...

Seriously, though, I agree that Warner has done a great job. If you count them up between all of the sets, it's split almost evenly between pre-'48 & post-'48. Sure, some will have more of one than the other, but getting the mixture of the ones I've seen a thousand times and the ones I've never seen is great. I was surprised, yet glad, that they finally touched more upon the earliest years with this set (yet there's still 31 post-'48 shorts & 2 TV Specials). When Warner Bros. received the right to all of the Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies, it was a cause for celebration, not disappointment. I would eventually like all of them to be released (pre & post '48).

I also hate the idea of one-character collections. That would be boring. I'd much rather see a mixture.

Having said that, (I hate to say anything negative at this point) I do question why the 15 bonus shorts on the latest set were treated as 2nd rate cartoons. They didn't all look that bad (Boyhood Daze was fine), but Hippety Hopper was almost unwatchable due to the picture--and I don't think that's much of an exaggeration. I understand the Army/Navy shorts being treated like that, but not these normal cartoons. It's nice having an extra disc's worth of shorts, but has there been an explanation anywhere for why these were treated as 2nd rate? (and I don't want to hear that Warner doesn't care, because it's more than obvious they do care).

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Hey, watch what you guys say about good ol' Foghorn!

I dislike when any cartoons are grouped by character or theme. We all know each character basically had the same jokes repeated over and over and over.

And over.

These things work best when they're all mixed up, as they were originally released.

My great dream would have been having these released in the equivalent of Season Sets, i.e., Year Sets, as Sony is doing with The Three Stooges now.

Now, those early years would be tough sells.

But starting at, say, 1936, and doing two years at a time, they could have gone through 1964 (past that, I lose interest) in about 14 sets.

If they did three years at a time, it would have taken only 9 or 10 sets.

That's what they should have done!

And we could have easily seen the evolution of the characters; I would have even found it interesting to see how the opening and closing credits evolved (assuming they were all restored to their original versions.)

That's what I would have liked.

But I'm an order freak.

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I'm guessing they'll just redesign, package and brand a new collection and start over again in the same vein with mixed shorts. perhaps even best of sorted by years. and with less features and supplements as it's been stated already that the well is running dry and more shorts content per disc as these films are gradually restored. I wouldn't be surprised either if the releases were cut down to 2-discs and put out bi-annually to boost sales by cushioning cost and doubling profit. I strongly suspect that whenever WHV decides to issue a press statement on the continuity of their Looney Tunes dvd franchise, this is what will be revealed. I'd be willing to take bets.

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I see a lot of speculation about how Looney Tunes will proceed on DVD following the just-released sixth and final title to be called "Golden Collection".

Some of what is being guessed at here, especially about whether we'll see the same shorts all over again, directly contradicts what I already posted back in July. This info came "straight from the source" (sorry, can't name names, but this info - while always subject to possible change, of course - is just about as good as it gets!):


The Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes Comedy Hour DVD news: Update for Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 6 | TVShowsOnDVD.com


Hope that helps,

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Thanks, David.

If they're not going to release by character (which I still think is a mistake), why not release a set of Oscar-winning & nominated cartoons? Are they afraid if they do this no one will buy the other ones?

My other suggestion would be to release a set featuring 4 or 5 characters, with (for example), All Bugs on disc 1, all Daffy on disc 2, all Sylvester on disc 3 and all Foghorn on disc 4, etc. There are enough characters out there to warrant several of these types of sets. I would think this type of release would boost the sales.

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What I'd really like to see with Looney Tunes, is Burn-On-Demand. Allow us to make custom discs composed of whjatever we want from ALL of the Looney Toons cartoons!

I didn't buy the Golden Collections. As much as I'd love to have an extensive collection of Looney Toons, I wasn't going to take a chance buying these expensive sets, only to fall victim to the underhanded behavior that all of these studios have exhibited. Plus, Nor did I care to purchase these expensive sets which seemed to all contain about 50% material that I would not want.

I don't think just "character" collections (i.e. all Bugs, all Foghorn Leghorn...) are the answer either- as that would not only entail significant double-dipping for those who already bought the Golden Collection, but it would deprive us of variety. (I'd rather watch one or two Bugs eps...then a Roadrunner, then a Sylvester, etc. than to just watch all Bugs...or to have to change discs after every short)

Since they started the Golden Collection, they should have followed through and completed it by not stopping till all the cartoons were released, because now, unless they do the Burn-On-Demand, the Golden Collection owners are going to get shafted....and the rest of us are probably still not going to get what we want.

Sadly, TV on DVD seems to be being ruined by the same poor business and marketing decisions that have killed the rest of the American business landscape. Every company these days, from Ebay to automakers to banks seems to be either alienating their customers/potential customers, or making foolish decisions which cause their own demise. With this behavior so prevalent, I don't see much hope that the DVD industry will fare any better- and in fact, based on their actions already, I'd say they have already proven that they are on a ruinous course.

Somewhere along the line, businesses have forgotten that they must listen to their customers if they want to prosper!

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Afraid you missed this release:
Amazon.com: Warner Brothers Home Entertainment Academy Awards Animation Collection - 15 Winners, 26 Nominees: Tom & Jerry, Bugs Bunny, Popeye, Superman, Joe Barbera, Bill Hanna, Chuck Jones, Max Fleischer: Movies & TV

and if you just want the winners:
http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Enter...5W8H89R5RK0DJ1

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To snag people like me, they'd have to make a set of "Less Popular Looney Toons" or "The Ones no One Remembers" or "The Ones That Weren't Even In The Running". Seems I never like the popular ones, or the Emmy winners- Same with music- I'd never buy an albumn of #1 hits....but I'd be likely to buy "The Lost Ol;dies" or "One-Hit Wonders" or the "Hard To Find On CD" albumns.

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Yeah, I don't mind how they release these as long as they do not resort to character sets. Especially at this stage in the releases when there have been prevalent amounts of character discs being released on the Golden collections. This would make several one-shots (largely consisting of the Merrie Melodies) unreleasable for not having a starring character. I also think what they are doing currently acceptable, since the actual restoration process is not exactly expedient and I'm sure only half of the entire Warner cartoons library is resored currently (many unrestored prints were included in the "bonus material" of this volume).

I'm going to guess that future releases will be two-disc sets that are mixed in some sense, as in not devoted to a single "starring" character. They may be themed, though. I'd presonally prefer a completely "all-stars" release.

I disagree about DVD on Demand. I've had many issues ranging from shoddy picture quality such as digital artifacts as well as issues playing them properly in my DVD player. Not to mention the only way it would really work in this case would be if every short was restored, which they currently aren't.

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they are not merely patching the old syndication tapes into the computer. They are doing Hi-Def transfers that have been cleaned up and color corrected. The cost of this project has to be spread over the entire set.

We're talking 1003 cartoons to process. And so far they've done 360 plus the bonus cartoons. It's going to take time. Hopefully the next installment will speed it up. But you aren't going to get it all at once.

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If you think people aren't looking for character-specific discs, go to Amazon and read the discussions at the bottom of the pages of the Looney Toons collections. Almost every one asks where they can buy sets of only one character.

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What I'd love to see (bnut it'll never happen) are sets that have the cartoons arranged similar to the way in which they were shown in sdyndication- 23-minute eps consisting of a Bugs Bunny, with a different random cartoon following, then another Bugs!

Darn, that'd be GREAT!

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I'm fine with character-themed releases. I know that would leave out a lot of great cartoons that don't have a "star" but those could be bundled together in their own releases, too.

Give me a Foghorn Leghorn release, please !

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The reason I've never bought one of these collections is because I'm only interested in the Bugs Bunny cartoons. Even as a kid, I disliked most of the other LT "solo feature" characters and, for better or worse, that hasn't changed. If a Complete Bugs Bunny collection were ever released, I'd absolutely shell out the cash for it. But right now, it's just not worth the money for me.

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Jerry Beck (one the primary individuals responsible for the GC series) posted some news regarding certain events that led to this set as well as a bit of optimism for future sets in response to a (very nice) review on Mark Mayerson's blog.


If nothing else, it proves that the set was made with hardcore fans and collectors in mind. The news that Warners will continue to restore the remaining shorts is probably the best news of all.

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Forgot to post the link

Mayerson on Animation: The Last Hurrah

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That's optimistic?

The situation is pretty dire. Obviously Warner Bros' confidence in the profitability of Looney Tunes on DVD has been severely diminished. Because the earlier sets were so heavily geared towards the obscure/unknown stuff, the low sales of them means we won't be getting any more of them. Ever again.

I agree with everyone that more Road Runner, Tweety, and especially Foghorn should be released. In fact, if Warner hadn't been so piecemeal with the popular shorts, we wouldn't be in this predicament right now.

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It probably means the end of 4 disc sets but I bet they'll continue on with smaller and less expensive sets (a la Popeye). Why else would they be continuing to restore 60 cartoons a year?

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I was referring to the last sentence regarding the optimism. Sorry for not being clear.

I don't disagree that releasing a DVD dominated by the popular Looney Tunes stars would spike up sales. Considering the recent statement of "no double-dips" I would definitely look forward to such a release knowing we wouldn't be getting pre-released GC cartoons in the mix.

I may be a minority in that I've enjoyed the fact that more obscure cartoons were gradually being released into the sets. Sure I enjoy the more popular cartoons as much as the next, but the real "vault" stuff was a treat that really made the sets "must buys". Even though that kind of stuff could very well be sidelined now, I still hope that more rarities are released.

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"one more set to get the lesser known more obscure material out there before the vault doors were completely shut. The Bosko, Buddy, propaganda and one-shot shorts on this set were selected intentionally. We might never have this chance again.

I sleep better knowing PAGE MISS GLORY, BOSKO'S PICTURE SHOW, RUSSIAN RHAPSODY -- and even NORMAN NORMAL -- amongst others included here, are restored.
"

There were more than a couple of masterpieces in this set. This news in disappointing.

I thought this link was funny, 28 reasons to buy this set:

Adventures of J.E. Daniels: LTGC6 Sneek Peek

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I think if WB had gone the route of WDT and released complete collection volumes from the beginning it might have been more of a success, but they didn't, and I don't care, I'm still glad they went the route they did. I own all the WDT and I have to say you can burn yourself out on just Mickey shorts, or Donald, or Goofy, well maybe not Goofy, but you get my point. Have a variety of shorts to choose from in a set or disc saves one from having to get up and change discs when they get bored of a particular character. When WB puts the LT sets on BD maybe they will go the character collection volume route. Disney did show that it was possible that collectors will buy just wartime shorts, or the variety non-recognizable character sets, but for what it's worth I'm happy w/what WB has given us and sure I will be happy w/how they give us the rest as long as they don't double dip.

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You do realize there are a lot more LTMM titles than WDT shorts? 1000 plus vs. 428. It was easier for them to bust them down by Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, Pluto and Silly Symphonies.

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Well yes, I do realize that, but remember WDT only have 2 discs per set, if WB were to do a BD Bugs Bunny volume set they could do put more episodes on 2 discs or 4 discs, however they want to stretch it out volume wise. I'm only offering suggestions for future releases when they decide to start over on BD. The main argument of my posting was that variety is the spice of life, which WB is doing w/the LTGC sets, unlike the main character releases of WDT.

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I have to agree with the odd assortment of bonus shorts, most of which would have fit in well with the fourth discs. Some looked good, but a couple are just atrocious and dupey-looking.

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Frankly, I'd like to see everything released & I'll be holding my breath until that happens. In the meantime, I don't have a problem with the early and/or obscure stuff being released. Just because these shorts are considered by some to be unpopular doesn't mean they aren't very entertaining.

As long as we're on the subject of character-themed releases I'm also voting for a set of the Bugs/Daffy shorts and of course Porky Pig who starred in approximately 95,324 cartoons of his own. Let's see a box set of those.

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I see future sets as being similar to the Woody Woodpeckersets. Something like Bugs Bunny and Friends, Daffy Duck and Friends...etc. By adding "and friends" they can add whatever they want, including the obscure early b&w shorts.

I'm sure that having lots of sets like this on the market will the casual buyer a lot to chose from. A lot of people have the mentality that they have to buy GC 1-5 before they can buy Vol 6. That's a lot of why sales decline with each volume released. Going the Character and friends route would eliminate a lot of that.

Just look at how many different Scooby Doo releases there are. If Scooby was released chronologically in only expenseive 4 disc sets, It probably wouldn't have went past Vol 6 either. Instead there are many different titles to chose from priced reasonably, which is very attractive to the casual buyers and soccer moms.

I think if WB goes that route with Looney Tunes they are sitting on a gold mine. WB characters are very recognizable and kids love them when they are exposed to them.

The WDT sets probably would have sold a lot more for Disney too it they had promoted them the same way they do their platinum edition movie releases.

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Yes- and to me, that is part of the beauty of DVDs- being able to see the more obscure stuff. The popular stuff has been played ad infinitum, but some of the more obscure stuff either hasn't been seen muchy...or hasn't been sen at all by some people, and it's release would really make a good arguement to purchase DVDs. (Sadly, the studios often seem to take the approach that the popular stuff will sell better- "that's why it's popular"- but they fail to consider things like market saturation and the fact that the stuff people have seen 1000 times isn't too exciting, while the stuff they've maybe once when they were 7 years old, is something that will create excitement and that people may choose over the mundane.




Depends what market one is after, I suppose. To collectors, I think it's most appealing to have shows arranged in such a way that one can buy the complete collection conveniently and arranged in an orderly and consistent manner.

Some shows I see out there, are just all over the place- having tons of one or two-disc releases, and various different collections based on various themes, so that one who just simply wants to have all the material in one collection without duplication is just bewildered, and thus is either turned off or has to do tons of research just to figure out what he needs to buy to have such a collection...if such is even possible.

The all-over-the-board releases would no-doubt appeal to the casual shopper...but I think in the long-run, the collectors are the bread & butter of DVD-series sales. They each do have their polace though- and potential pofitability- as long as the studios offer both options and clearly distinguish between them.