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post #91 of 113
7/16/08 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by troy evans
Santino, found another one for you to check out. Insignia NS-BRDVD Blu-ray. This is sold at Best Buy stores. I just saw it today. Here I thought there were no other players, just goes to show. This player bitstreams all the new audio codecs and upconverts too.

Well, all the players upconvert (to 1080p over HDMI only) DVDs, Troy, but thank you very much for adding this player to my list! Much appreciated; this Insignia brand is Best Buy's in house label, and I don't know how much I trust their stuff yet -- did the player look any good? Did it do Master Audio AND TrueHD?

Thanks again for the info.
post #92 of 113
7/16/08 at 7:56pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

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Originally Posted by Panevino
did the player look any good? Did it do Master Audio AND TrueHD?
You can check the player out at engadget.com. Yes, it does do DTS-HD Master and TrueHD over HDMI(bitstream). I thought the player looked okay not great. Given the $350 price point and what it's capable of it's not bad at all.
post #93 of 113
7/16/08 at 8:01pm
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Thanks; I suppose I can consider it once I find out some more about Insignia's reputation and performance history.
post #94 of 113
7/16/08 at 8:08pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

Let me say, I'm only putting this out as an option on the now market. I still think you will be far happier if you wait for one of the coming players. You seem to want to do it right the first time and that's respectable. My advice again is to wait till the third or fourth quarter to see what's available. Even if something strikes your fancy now you can bet it'll be cheaper by then anyway.
post #95 of 113
7/16/08 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by troy evans
Let me say, I'm only putting this out as an option on the now market. I still think you will be far happier if you wait for one of the coming players. You seem to want to do it right the first time and that's respectable. My advice again is to wait till the third or fourth quarter to see what's available. Even if something strikes your fancy now you can bet it'll be cheaper by then anyway.

Yes -- this time around I definitely want to do things right with regard to the right kind of BD player; I didn't do enough homework before I bought my 'BD10A and was dissapointed by its lack of certain features. This time I want to make sure I'm getting a player with bitstreaming of TrueHD and Master Audio, as well as sharp, clean BD performance and at least decent DVD upconversion.

So, for upcoming players...you recommend a Sony, Pioneer, perhaps the Oppo...maybe a Denon...which?
post #96 of 113
7/16/08 at 9:00pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

Panevino, one thing to consider seeing as you have an Onkyo 605:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ease-read.html

This affects DTS-MA bitstreaming only, but not if the player decodes and sends the DTS-MA track as Multi-channel PCM. You may want to hedge your bets and go with a player that can do both. In this case, the upcoming Sony BDP-S550 or the Pioneer BDP-05FD would serve you well. In addition, the Sony 550 is also a Profile 2.0 player.
post #97 of 113
7/16/08 at 9:08pm
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Panevino, one thing to consider seeing as you have an Onkyo 605:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ease-read.html

This affects DTS-MA bitstreaming only, but not if the player decodes and sends the DTS-MA track as Multi-channel PCM. You may want to hedge your bets and go with a player that can do both. In this case, the upcoming Sony BDP-S550 or the Pioneer BDP-05FD would serve you well. In addition, the Sony 550 is also a Profile 2.0 player.

Thanks very much for this information John -- I had read this over at AVS but didn't take it serious; wonder why Jacob, who I have been having a great deal of interaction with in other threads, didn't bring this one up to me knowing I had a 605...

Do you know if this issue was inherent on ALL 605 models? Does every owner experience it? Boy...the last thing I would want to do is buy another Blu ray player and have to send yet another encode via PCM instead of bitstream...specifically what I bought this receiver for. Thanks so much for the heads up on which players to consider -- I'll definitely put the Sony and Pioneers on my list.
post #98 of 113
7/16/08 at 10:03pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

it never came up in conversation.
how long have you had the 605? I had it since last year. like august or so.
Jacob
post #99 of 113
7/16/08 at 10:08pm

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Originally Posted by Panevino
So, for upcoming players...you recommend a Sony, Pioneer, perhaps the Oppo...maybe a Denon...which?
I would get a Denon. Thing is, I can't bring myself to spend that much on a player. For a receiver, yes. Blu-ray player, not a chance. However, should you be so inclined. I'm not to sure about the Sony players. Pioneer, eh. I wouldn't spend money on either of those choices. I had a Sony BDP-S300 and thought it was a great Blu-ray player. Then, I got my Samsung BD1500 and realized how wrong I was. The Samsung, for me, is awesome. Just like you haven't been impressed with Samsung, I haven't been impressed with Sony. Of course, you have to consider everyones experiences and wants in a player will be different. Remember, you can read a hundred positive reviews and still end up with a P.O.S. and vice verse.
post #100 of 113
7/16/08 at 10:11pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

I also own a 605 and have never heard the DTS BOMB when bitstreaming DTS-HD MASTER. In fact, I haven't heard anyone mention this for awhile. It kinda dropped off the radar.
post #101 of 113
7/17/08 at 1:28am

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

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Originally Posted by Panevino
So, for upcoming players...you recommend a Sony, Pioneer, perhaps the Oppo...maybe a Denon...which?

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post #102 of 113
7/17/08 at 8:20am

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post #103 of 113
7/17/08 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by TheBat
it never came up in conversation.
how long have you had the 605? I had it since last year. like august or so.
Jacob

I know it never came up; just thought you'd maybe mention it because of the discussions we were having about the 605, etc; no big deal.

My 605 was bought this past October or so.
post #104 of 113
7/17/08 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by troy evans
I would get a Denon. Thing is, I can't bring myself to spend that much on a player. For a receiver, yes. Blu-ray player, not a chance. However, should you be so inclined. I'm not to sure about the Sony players. Pioneer, eh. I wouldn't spend money on either of those choices. I had a Sony BDP-S300 and thought it was a great Blu-ray player. Then, I got my Samsung BD1500 and realized how wrong I was. The Samsung, for me, is awesome. Just like you haven't been impressed with Samsung, I haven't been impressed with Sony. Of course, you have to consider everyones experiences and wants in a player will be different. Remember, you can read a hundred positive reviews and still end up with a P.O.S. and vice verse.

Thanks for the thoughts. I'm having a hard time,too, bringing myself to cough up the $1000 or $2000 bucks for either of the Denon models, but what intrigues me about dropping the two grand on the flagship Denon is the fact that it carries the Realta chip which may make upscaled DVDs look much better than what I'm experiencing now. That in itself may be worth the investment for me -- plus the fact that it can bitstream TrueHD and Master Audio plus will probably offer better Blu ray performance based on its Realta scaling system.
post #105 of 113
7/17/08 at 8:57pm
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I also own a 605 and have never heard the DTS BOMB when bitstreaming DTS-HD MASTER. In fact, I haven't heard anyone mention this for awhile. It kinda dropped off the radar.

Well, that's good news that you don't get that Master Audio "bomb"; just because it kinda went off the radar doesn't mean folks still aren't experiencing it -- owners probably either live with it, returned it for something else or installed a firmware update of some kind. I just hope my 605 doesn't begin behaving this way once I get a bitstreaming player connected to it.
post #106 of 113
7/17/08 at 9:45pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

there is a thread over at the avs forums about the DTS problem. I would suggest go and reading that.

Jacob
post #107 of 113
7/17/08 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by TheBat
there is a thread over at the avs forums about the DTS problem. I would suggest go and reading that.

Jacob

What about my comment that my unit was bought around October of last year...you asked me when mine was from...
post #108 of 113
7/17/08 at 9:52pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

I have no idea if you will still need to do the upgrade or not with that onkyo receiver. mostly you will or you can send it to onkyo and they will do it for you.. its pretty easy to do yourself.

the good news is that you don;t have to do thefirst upgrade. the first batch of receiver had a probem where it would not read the trueHD or dolby digital plus or DTS MA. that was only in the first batch.
do you have T2 on bluray? do you get 6.1? on it or 5.1? on the reciever?
Jacob
post #109 of 113
7/17/08 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by TheBat
I have no idea if you will still need to do the upgrade or not with that onkyo receiver. mostly you will or you can send it to onkyo and they will do it for you.. its pretty easy to do yourself.

the good news is that you don;t have to do thefirst upgrade. the first batch of receiver had a probem where it would not read the trueHD or dolby digital plus or DTS MA. that was only in the first batch.
do you have T2 on bluray? do you get 6.1? on it or 5.1? on the reciever?
Jacob

Well, I'm not going to unwire everything and send the unit back to Onkyo at this point -- I just hope I didn't get one of the defective units.

How do we know that I didn't get that "bug" you're talking about with the first problem on the 605s (I heard about that too, that they don't decode the new formats, etc.)? I don't have T2 on Blu ray...I have the Extreme Edition DVD...
post #110 of 113
7/17/08 at 10:02pm

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it would be a pain in the ass to take it apart and then send it to them. I didn;t like that idea either. you enter some info about the player and then it will tell you if you need to upgrade about getting trueHD, DDplus, and DTS MA. probably have to contact onkyo about the DTS MA bomb.

Jacob

TX-SR605 Firmware Update | Customer Support | Onkyo USA Home Theater Products
post #111 of 113
7/17/08 at 10:04pm
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Originally Posted by TheBat
it would be a pain in the ass to take it apart and then send it to them. I didn;t like that idea either. you enter some info about the player and then it will tell you if you need to upgrade about getting trueHD, DDplus, and DTS MA. probably have to contact onkyo about the DTS MA bomb.

Jacob

TX-SR605 Firmware Update | Customer Support | Onkyo USA Home Theater Products

Thanks for the link, Jake.
post #112 of 113
7/17/08 at 10:08pm

Re: Given the Following Criteria...Can Someone Recommend a BD Player?

no problem.
I sent you a PM about another matter.

Jacob
post #113 of 113
7/17/08 at 10:16pm
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Got it and replied.
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