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"The eager gaze of the uninitiated"

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David Lean told a story about the production of In Which We Serve (1942) in which he shared the directorial assignment with Noel Coward.

In the background of one scene there was a need for a whistler. Coward pushed to cast a professional, who could whistle as necessary on cue, with the audio being recorded live.

Lean wanted an actor, whistling or not, knowing that the actual audio could be added later.

Mr. Coward won out, and a professional whistler was cast.

When it came time to shoot the scene, however, Coward was less than thrilled, as the non-professional stuck out like a sore, well... whistler.

The way that Lean told it, Coward approached him, and acknowledging the casting error, shook his head at the problem and explained to Lean that it wasn't working, as the gentleman "had the eager gaze of the uninitiated."

Whatever could this have to do with Blu-ray home video?

The point is this.

Generally when publications hire reviewers for any purpose, there is a search for a hire, based upon one's CV, an elimination and final selection.

Not when it comes to home video blogs and on-line reporting.

There are many bloggers and on-line reviewers, some with more experience than others.

Before I go further the point needs to be made that many on-line writers are uncompensated, and do their writing for the fun of it. You cannot expect perfection from them, and they should be lauded for their work.

I should also make the point that quite of number of reviewers got it, were able to decipher what they were seeing, and commented on it.

The recent discussions regarding PQ on Patton, The Longest Day and Gang of New York has brought this to a head.

Two of these films, Patton and TLD, are difficult films to review for a number of reasons. One needs high end equipment, a reasonably large 1080p monitor, and a quality Blu-ray player, all properly set up to work with one another. And make no mistake, Patton and TLD look gorgeous on moderately sized monitors.

The other problem is that a reviewer needs some sort of reference, and here's the rub.

A reference cannot be a standard definition DVD, and broadcast television is less than helpful. One really needs to know what certain films, at least certain formats look like on film, projected in a theater.

That is what the concept of Blu-ray is all about.

"Experience movies the way filmmakers intended!"

A quick search of reviewer's comments on these films will reveal the phrases:

"I've never seen this film before, but..."

"Great colors, and much sharper than one would expect from a 30 year old film."

"Beautiful for an old film."

"A real step up when compared to the original DVD."

These films have all been professionally reviewed in the past. A quick search on MRQE.com will usually bring up dozens of reviews.

On-line when they are reviewed as films, the additional information adds a nice bit of surrounding journalism, but the rub is that one cannot adequately give a quality appraisal of a Blu-ray disc without having at least some idea what it should look like.

On the other side of the equation are readers who seem overly willing to give up their hard earned coin of the realm in order to own a Blu-ray disc that is at least a bit better than the SD that they already own.

They, like some of the reviewers, don't know what their expectations should be.

And this is sending the wrong message to the studios.

A Blu-ray disc should be a formidable creation, with six times the image quality of SD, and the "ho-hum" attitude of some purchasing those discs means that adequacy is the function of the day.

I'm going to make a point for the umpteenth time.

Fox produces extremely high quality Blu-rays, and I look upon Patton and The Longest Day as merely aberrations, but aberrations that need to be dealt with industry-wide before there is an acceptance of what they represent. These are discs where something in the process just went awry.

Gangs of New York is something else.

I posit that any reviewer that gave high or even acceptable grades to Gangs, either needs to be educated properly or should not be reviewing.

The disc is a travesty of the first order.

Can reviewers be initiated to how good a film should look on Blu-ray?

In most cases, yes.

Can the public learn to be more discerning in their purchases?

Absolutely, although many will remain gleeful as things stand, and will continue to deny any problem with their discs, inclusive of Gangs.

What should the expectations of the final consumer be?

As perfect a product as can be created by the studio technicians, which is most cases, problem film elements aside, is very, very impressive.

Where do we go from here? Fix it, I guess.

Things need to occur reasonably quickly, so that our reviews as well as the Blu-ray buying public are unaffected by "The eager gaze of the uninitiated."

RAH
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Thanks Mr. Harris.

Your above comments have a definite ring of truth.
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
They, like some of the reviewers, don't know what their expectations should be.

And this is sending the wrong message to the studios.


I know what my expectations should be but I nevertheless bought Patton and TLD because I want studios to know that there is a market out there for classics. Apart from Warner, all other studios mainly release modern movies. Unless people buy classics in sufficient quantities to justify their release it will stay that way. A format without classics is a dead format for me. A DNR'ed to death format is something that I will not support either but at this stage I'd rather have something to complain about than nothing at all.

As for reviewers, I've said it all along, most of them don't know what they're talking about. But the battle against DNR is bigger than I thought when you have reviewers like Glenn Erickson and Stuart Galbraith at DVDTalk who know what film looks like, giving high marks to the BDs of Patton and TLD.
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ouch, someone must have given a good review on the pic quality of "Gangs"
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
the other side of the equation are readers who seem overly willing to give up their hard earned coin of the realm in order to own a Blu-ray disc that is at least a bit better than the SD that they already own.They, like some of the reviewers, don't know what their expectations should be.And this is sending the wrong message to the studios.A Blu-ray disc should be a formidable creation, with six times the image quality of SD, and the "ho-hum" attitude of some purchasing those discs means that adequacy is the function of the day
The problem is this cuts both ways. In defending 12 Monkeys and American Werewolf here and elsewhere, the attitude I would commonly see was "This should be a huge upgrade otherwise what's the point".The thing is, both of these for me, on my gear and my viewing angle were a suprisingly substantial upgrade. For most everyone else, people like me were seen as sending the studios a message that 'adequete' was enough-or else excusing the formats poor standards because of the format war. The problem is that there is no standard display minimums as there are with theaters. There are small shoebox multi-plex screens out there, but the average viewing angle within still hits a scale that dwarfs average or even dominant home viewing angles. As you yourself note Robert, you have two displays and on one of them the films (two anyway) look sensational. THAT is the bigger problem. A future DNR'd 12 Monkeys Blu-ray might end up looking more impressive to the person with the smaller display than the more faithful HD DVD. What do you do about that?
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There is no way for those with more moderate setups to know about quality concerns, except by reading reviews and noting opinions in chat rooms, which for Patton and TLD are a virtual impossibility due to the disparities in opinion.

And concerning opinion, let me be very clear. There are several reviewers whose opinions I respect that have given Patton and TLD positive, and even glowing, reviews. They're obviously seeing something that they like.

Many people start out with moderate home theater setups, and gradually build them as affordability permits. They may begin with a small HD monitor and a PS3 on which Patton will look just fine, and may only notice problems on replay years later on a high end monitor.

Copyright holders and publishers should be cognizant of the need of everyone, inclusive those who may not be able to see the difference between software at all quality levels with immediacy to provide the highest level software technologically possible.

My hope is that some type of approval system will come into play, with publishers submitting and receiving a notice of quality. This would take much of the guesswork out of purchasing Blu-ray, as well as making the concept of pre-ordering more viable.

With the exception of the small group which apparently likes and approves of Gangs of New York, there will be many affected blu-ray viewers who pre-ordered, viewed, and may now possibly be stuck with an expensive disc of poor quality. I've a feeling that Disney will step up to the plate on this issue however, and make good on the release.

BTW, I was one of those who felt that 12 Monkeys looked quite film-like, even for an early release.
post #7 of 40

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
And concerning opinion, let me be very clear. There are several reviewers whose opinions I respect that have given Patton and TLD positive, and even glowing, reviews. They're obviously seeing something that they like.
One of whom would be you:
"Patton" RAH Recommened (5-28-08): "Do I like this Blu-Ray of Patton? Absolutely! Can I recommend it? Without a doubt."
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...n-blu-ray.html
Which you edited on 6-17-08 to say:
"It is not recommended for any high end systems, screens much above 50" or to anyone who prefers their Blu-rays looking like cinema."
&
"TLD" RAH Recommended (5-25-08): "Can I recommend a disc that has been processed to look a bit like Bambi? Sure. The Longest Day is superb filmmaking, bought to Blu-Ray by Fox in what appears to be a nicely cleaned version."
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...y-blu-ray.html
With this send-off: "Do I like it? No. Will many people care? Probably not."
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
There is no way for those with more moderate setups to know about quality concerns, except by reading reviews and noting opinions in chat rooms, which for Patton and TLD are a virtual impossibility due to the disparities in opinion.
"Moderate" in size?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
My hope is that some type of approval system will come into play, with publishers submitting and receiving a notice of quality. This would take much of the guesswork out of purchasing Blu-ray, as well as making the concept of pre-ordering more viable.
What are the chances of something like this happening?
Thanks, again.
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
With the exception of the small group which apparently likes and approves of Gangs of New York, there will be many affected blu-ray viewers who pre-ordered, viewed, and may now possibly be stuck with an expensive disc of poor quality. I've a feeling that Disney will step up to the plate on this issue however, and make good on the release.
Reviewers should never recommend an inferior product quessing that it will be displayed on smaller screens.

On "GoNY" a BIG thanks; as this was one of the uglyest, if not the uglyest, DVD's I'd ever seen. You saved me $$$!!!
post #8 of 40
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Re: "The eager gaze of the uninitiated"

To Ed St. Clair,

"moderate" in size. Correct.

Reviews were updated as there was confusion among some readers as to how I could recommend something for smaller screens and pan for larger.

Approval system?

Wishful thinking, possibly. But something must be brought into place, as publishers do not seem able to deal with the problem internally.
post #9 of 40

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
"moderate" in size.
Correct.
Wouldn't resolution be a better way to evaluate a system?
One could have a 100" screen, however seating 20 ft. away wouldn't be able to discern the details/resolution as someone with a 42" 1080i/p display displaying a 1080i/p source from 5 ft. away.
Or is there something inherent to "blowing up" the picture too evaluating PQ?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
Reviews were updated as there was confusion among some readers as to how I could recommend something for smaller screens and pan for larger.
No problem. I'm glad & approve of your updating your review.
It was just funny, too me, that you 'approved' of reviewers such as "yourself"! :-)
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
Approval system?

Wishful thinking, possibly. But something must be brought into place, as publishers do not seem able to deal with the problem internally.
Yeah, I thought that was a pipe dream. Butt hay, if you got it I'd smoke it!!!

EDitEDbyED:
And I wanted too add, I enjoyed the story as well.
Hope the whistler at least got the job for the overdub!
post #10 of 40
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It's actually a combination of size and resolution.

With even the highest resolution, one is not going to see some problems on moderately sized screens.

This was the initial problem that I had with Patton -- viewing on an HD 30" Sony CRT.

RAH
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Originally Posted by TonyD
ouch, someone must have given a good review on the pic quality of "Gangs"

I know that Harry Knowles at aintitcool.com was pretty pleased with the disc. When people brought up with other reviewers were saying about it, he insisted it looked great on his setup.
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Fantastic points, and thought provoking - as always.

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
...The other problem is that a reviewer needs some sort of reference, and here's the rub.

A reference cannot be a standard definition DVD, and broadcast television is less than helpful. One really needs to know what certain films, at least certain formats look like on film, projected in a theater.

That is what the concept of Blu-ray is all about.

"Experience movies the way filmmakers intended!"...

Again, I strongly agree, but it's interesting that we may soon be getting into an era where a film print is no longer a reference.

I came across this curious tidbit about color and the recent Speed Racer release:

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"It turns out that Speed Racer was mastered using colors that look great on digital projectors and monitors but can't be fully reproduced on film. Once the master was complete, the people making the film prints were more or less told "Do the best you can." The decision left even the post-production pros puzzled -- on a film that depended so much on its look, why use colors that couldn't be delivered to the majority of theatergoers who would see the movie on celluloid?

To be fair, any lack of color fidelity can't be blamed for the film's poor box office and it's just possible this decision may prove farsighted. Since the film was mastered for the REC709 broadcast digital display standard, Speed Racer's colors will be true and clear on TV broadcasts, DVD and Blu-Ray, not to mention any future D-Cinema re-releases."
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Originally Posted by Felix Martinez
Again, I strongly agree, but it's interesting that we may soon be getting into an era where a film print is no longer a reference.

A film print is only relevant as reference for the film print era, which is slowing coming to a close.

Data, assuming that it survives, is data. The important function for data is a proper LUT and tuned equipment.

RAH
post #14 of 40

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
It's actually a combination of size and resolution.

With even the highest resolution, one is not going to see some problems on moderately sized screens.

This was the initial problem that I had with Patton -- viewing on an HD 30" Sony CRT.

RAH
Ah ha!
Thanks for answering all my posts! Your off-the-hook, for now. ;-)
Enjoy.

No reply required.
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Originally Posted by TonyD
ouch, someone must have given a good review on the pic quality of "Gangs"
DVDBeaver:
"Image: 7/9
(I have a new scoring system for the Image in order to make the first number rationalize with the other scores): The first number indicates a relative level of excellence compared to other Blu-ray DVDs on a ten-point scale. The second number places this image along the full range of DVDs, including SD 480i."
Gangs of new York - Blu-ray Daniel Day-Lewis Leonardo DiCaprio
In Beaver reviews I distrust!
(It's their comparisons I luv!)
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While I currently have a 50" HD display and Patton, TLD and GONY might look semi ok. I am looking to the future as I am planning to upgrade to a 1080p projector with a 120" screen. So I am not willing to buy titles that have had a horrible transfer on Blu-ray. It is sad that the studios are altering the apperience of movies by applying DNR to eleminate film grain. To my knowledge this is at the heart of what is going on. I totally agree with your assesment of the situation Robert, and I will not buy any of those titles till they are fixed. It is almost like the studios are listening to a small group of consumers that have no clue what film looks like and can care less about what that does to the end product on video. These are the last people we need affecting how our HD movies look. These are the same consumers that did not like widescreen because they hated the black bars on there 4:3 displays. We buy Blu-ray so that we may have a true theater exsperience in our own homes. The studios that are listening to that small number of consumers need to step back and realize that they are hurting HD not helping it! That's only if the studios have been giving into a small uniformed group of consumers.

I hope that we do not keep having these same problems with other aging titles that deserve the best HD transter the studios can create. Because as much as I would love to own movies in HD I will not buy movies on Blu-ray just to buy them. If the transfers have been botched or DNR makes the characters look like plastic or video games. Then I would even pass on titles like Jurrasic Park, Saving Private Ryan, Braveheart, Amityville Horror, The Godfather, James Bond Films, Back To The Future, Indiana Jones, Gone With The Wind, Wizard Of Oz or any other classic film. One title that is not out yet that really concerns me is Saving Private Ryan as that is a very grainy film. God only knows what they might do to SPR.

I respect Robert Harris reviews so when he says that a movie on Blu-ray does not look right I do not waste money on it! Robert has been spot on with every review and I would like to thank him for the time and energy he puts into his reviews. I would also like to thank others that do a great job at reviewing movies here, I am not sure I could do what you guys do and I do not have the system to properly review movies ether.

Let's hope the studios that are messing up transfers come to there sences and do what it takes to get the true film exsperience to Blu-ray! For those who are putting out great HD transfers, keep up the great work!
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A copy of Lady Snowblood just arrived. For those unfamilar with it, it's a Japanese revenge/samurai pic from the 70's and one of the major sources of (inspiration) Tarrantinos Kill Bill films. The disc is from Animego.
On the back cover I was mortified to find a blurb trumpeting the digital manipulation in this release which includes color boosting and noise reduction to 'remove grain and noise'.
This is the mind set we're up against.
post #18 of 40
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Brings to mind one Henry Hull's famous lines from Jesse James.
post #19 of 40

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Music sounds bad & movies look bad.
Welcome too the "modern age"!
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
Many people start out with moderate home theater setups, and gradually build them as affordability permits. They may begin with a small HD monitor and a PS3 on which Patton will look just fine, and may only notice problems on replay years later on a high end monitor.

I would only differ here with the supposition that a PS3 is somehow a low-end or inferior Blu-ray player...entry-level perhaps, but it is far from being a negative influence on a falsely-positive disc review.
post #21 of 40
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I'm referring to the PS3 not in terms of quality -- I went out and purchased one the other day -- but rather in terms of overall popularity. Numbers.
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Now having passed the 30 year mark in my journalism/editorial career, I look around and despair of the future of journalism. The proliferation of well-meaning (and not-so-well-meaning) amateurs with bully electronic pulpits from which to spin their unschooled opinions is obliterating the concept of the professional, trained journalist.

Then I take a second look with the eyes of a consumer electronics aficionado, and also despair of the future of home audio/video. With the rise of the iPod, high fidelity is all but dead, assassinated by ultra-compressed MP3s, and over-processed pop music designed to sound "good" on ear buds. The public chose portability over quality.

The video symptoms Robert discusses suggest that the same lowest-common-denominator thinking that killed HiFi will now destroy the potential of HD video sources. Already, it appears that studio executives are instructing video compressors to maul digital intermediates into edge-enhanced, color-boosted demos to flatter the low-quality $300 "HD" monitors that will soon flood the market.

And helpimg to spread the misinformation will be the amateur online authorities who think every scene of every film on HD disc must be a candy-striped, razor-sharp, 3D "pop" fest, and with nary a speck of the dreaded Film Grain.

Everyone who cares about the potential of HD disc needs to be very vocal about their desires for excellent HD masters, the kind that accurately represent the film source and inspire consumers to build the best quality systems they can afford (and inspire CE hardware companies to make quality more affordable). Secondly, we need to speak out against discs that stoop to conquer the uneducated with video quality that is digitally sanitized for your protection.

-----

And, Robert, there are still lots of films out there that need your restoration genius, so let's not be spending a lot of time playing "Metal Gear Solid 4" on that PS3! (like me....)
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Thank you for your clarification re: PS3.

Anyone else think that this problem on the part of the studios might be a bit more sinister, or at least capitalistic? I mean, if they give us the absolute best quality releases up front (aside from 4K which I doubt will ever catch on except with videophiles and home theater enthusiasts), who is ever going to double-dip? Not merely for some future Java-game as a bonus feature surely. They can always "Superbit" us later and charge us twice (and likely for twice as much.) Perhaps it's a bit too machiavellian, but this whole problem smacks of over-zealous marketing to me.

P.S. I am very much looking forward to the 'Godfather' BD release later this year. Thank you very much for your hard work!
post #24 of 40

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Originally Posted by Dave Moritz
It is almost like the studios are listening to a small group of consumers that have no clue what film looks like and can care less about what that does to the end product on video. These are the last people we need affecting how our HD movies look. These are the same consumers that did not like widescreen because they hated the black bars on there 4:3 displays. We buy Blu-ray so that we may have a true theater exsperience in our own homes. The studios that are listening to that small number of consumers need to step back and realize that they are hurting HD not helping it! That's only if the studios have been giving into a small uniformed group of consumers.

Sadly, I believe your assessment of the uninformed consumer group as "small" is mistaken. It may be small in terms of who's buying BDs today, but that's the market that the studios want to tap into.

Otherwise this wouldn't be a problem.
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We have a PS3 in our setup and we are mortified at what is happening in regards to high definition. My husband counts PATTON as one of his all time favorite films and he is beyond angry about how it looks. He has seen it in 70mm twice and both times he had to drive over four hours to get there. He knows what the film should look like and says the BD looks more like FINAL FANTASY than PATTON.

FINAL FANTASY has grain added to make it look more film like, by the way, so even it looks more film like than the PATTON BD.
post #26 of 40

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I think the "problem" with the PS3 is that it exists in such large numbers (and I think this is what RAH was saying). Many of these units, if they are hooked up to HD sets, will be hooked up to smaller sets (and in some cases sets that aren't really up to full Blu-ray goodness) in family rooms, bedrooms, etc where the differences cannot be seen between a proper transfer and one that is questionable.

Now this is not the case with every PS3. There are obviously some home theater and film enthusiasts who use them whether the are gamers or not (I'll play the occasional game) and have them hooked up to larger, well-calibrated displays. I for one went with the PS3 because it was the best for my needs and the most future proof (Blu-ray's profile madness). It works well along side my XA2 despite the fact that I can't use my universal remote with it.

The other thing about the numbers is that it is going to skew the Blu-ray demographics younger. This in itself is not a problem, but they are not exactly the target audience for "old films." Not that they can't appreciate them or learn to love them. I'm not old enough to have originally seen the vast majority of my favorite films, but they are the ones that I love and I have learned what they should look like.

The problem seems to be that someone thinks that in order to make films like Patton and The Longest Day more relevant that they need to look more like Spiderman or PS3 games. This just seems wrong and backwards to me. I mean who is going to seek out films like Patton first? Film and home theater enthusiasts not the kid who was psyched about the free copy of Talladega Nights he got with his PS3.

Now I understand that they need their software to sell beyond this limited group, but it is highly doubtful that manipulating the look will accomplish this. It seems better to please this vocal group of first movers and let them tout the software.

Now the question about how to better educate the public. Well, normally you would hope that reviewers could help with this, but it seems that many reviewers also need the education. That is what is making things so much worse. Let me also say that I by no means am an expert and I am constantly looking to further my education which is again another reason to love the HTF.
post #27 of 40

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I'm a bit more optimistic, I guess. Maybe I'm in a good mood today, but in retrospect I'm rather tickled that letterboxed DVDs have been the norm for some time (enhanced for 16:9 to boot).

If that can catch on with (most of) the general public, it's possible for them to grasp that seeing grain = detail.

Heck, how about a little label on the box - kinda like what was on CDs circa 1987 (my own paraphrase):

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"This motion picture was created using the photochemical film system. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the look of the original elements. Because of its high resolution, this Blu-ray Disc can reveal grain and other analog attributes of the source."
post #28 of 40

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If that can catch on with (most of) the general public, it's possible for them to grasp that seeing grain = detail.


While many of the public have accepted widescreen dvd's. It seems like many of those same people and the ones that refuse to accept widescreen, have the studios ears in regards to erasing film grain from movies. What the studios need to do is educate the public that film grain is part of the movie making process and that some dircetors want a grainy look to there films. The industry could very well educate the consumer that film grain is not bad and maybe the studios would stop altering films with DNR when putting them on Blu-ray.

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"This motion picture was created using the photochemical film system. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the look of the original elements. Because of its high resolution, this Blu-ray Disc can reveal grain and other analog attributes of the source."

post #29 of 40

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Originally Posted by Felix Martinez
"This motion picture was created using the photochemical film system. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the look of the original elements. Because of its high resolution, this Blu-ray Disc can reveal grain and other analog attributes of the source."
Cute & catchy! :-)
post #30 of 40

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Originally Posted by Felix Martinez
"This motion picture was created using the photochemical film system. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the look of the original elements. Because of its high resolution, this Blu-ray Disc can reveal grain and other analog attributes of the source."

I like it!
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