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post #91 of 132
6/8/09 at 12:33pm

Re: A few words about...™ Gangs of New York -- in Blu-ray

I'm just waiting for a re-do of this one...which may never come in this format. How a Scorsese film can be treated this way is mystifying, while I'm sure Paul Blart: Mall Cop will have a flawless transfer (not that it shouldn't have one...but still...)

Oh, and while we're on the subject, where the f**k is Kundun? We never even got an anamorphic transfer of that on SD-DVD, let alone a blu.

--Jefferson Morris
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post #92 of 132
6/8/09 at 2:56pm

Re: A few words about...™ Gangs of New York -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Jefferson Morris
I'm just waiting for a re-do of this one...which may never come in this format. How a Scorsese film can be treated this way is mystifying, while I'm sure Paul Blart: Mall Cop will have a flawless transfer (not that it shouldn't have one...but still...)

Oh, and while we're on the subject, where the f**k is Kundun? We never even got an anamorphic transfer of that on SD-DVD, let alone a blu.

--Jefferson Morris

Not only Kundun, but The Color of Money (the box says 16x9 but that is false), and New York New York, the DVD was released letterboxed but not 16x9.
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post #93 of 132
6/8/09 at 3:25pm

Re: A few words about...™ Gangs of New York -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Jefferson Morris
Oh, and while we're on the subject, where the f**k is Kundun? We never even got an anamorphic transfer of that on SD-DVD, let alone a blu.
Don't get me started (again) on all those Disney titles that hit DVD in 1997 through I think early 1999 when they weren't doing anamo transfers and which have never received an SE re-release that corrected the error. HORSE WHISPERER, QUIZ SHOW, ARMAGEDDON, HE GOT GAME, WHAT'S LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT, BELOVED, LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE . . .

NIXON used to be on that list; that's part of what makes that Election Year Edition BD that dropped last fall so sweet.
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post #94 of 132
6/8/09 at 3:31pm

Re: A few words about...™ Gangs of New York -- in Blu-ray

Still waiting for a better version of The Horse Whisperer. I would really love to see a Bd release that does this film justice; along with all of the other titles mentioned.

- Walter.
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post #95 of 132
11/24/09 at 9:35am
Thread Starter 
I'm hearing that the coming release of Gangs, due Feb 2nd, is is a full remaster, going back to film, re-scanning and continuing through the entire process.

Disney has a superb track record for quality, with the exception of a titles done at this specific facility.

This release should make amends for the original problems, and hopefully with some sort of rebate for those who inadvertently purchased coasters.

Those who felt that the original was up to proper Blu-ray quality need not upgrade, as the original was obviously "good enough" or "better than standard def." They should not be affected by a proper release.

EDIT:

I'm now hearing from others that this may be a re-tread, so it SHOULD NOT BE PRE-ORDERED until there is a confirmation.

RAH 
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post #96 of 132
11/24/09 at 9:57am
Thanks for the good news, RAH!

Maybe they'll even include a $10 upgrade rebate for DVD owners (like they've done for quite a few other catalog titles).

_Man_
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post #97 of 132
11/24/09 at 11:49am
This is exciting news!  The DVD was bad enough - I didn't go near the BD

Now if only the same happened for ROBOCOP!
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post #98 of 132
11/24/09 at 12:12pm
Excellent news! My BD of this title is still sitting on my shelf unopened, in the hopes of a better edition. Looks like I'm getting my wish. :)
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post #99 of 132
11/24/09 at 1:11pm
THank you for letting us knoW!!!!! =D. i didn't grab the BD because of issues like that =). i luv scorsece's work and i luv his passion/enthusiasm for films and its preservation. Gangs of NY is finally getting its comeuppance =).

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris View Post

I'm hearing that the coming release of Gangs, due Feb 2nd, is is a full remaster, going back to film, re-scanning and continuing through the entire process.

Disney has a superb track record for quality, with the exception of a titles done at this specific facility.

This release should make amends for the original problems, and hopefully with some sort of rebate for those who inadvertently purchased coasters.

Those who felt that the original was up to proper Blu-ray quality need not upgrade, as the original was obviously "good enough" or "better than standard def." They should not be affected by a proper release.

I look forward to this Blu-ray.

RAH 


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post #100 of 132
11/24/09 at 5:12pm
Thread Starter 
The news is becoming more grim.  It now appears that an actual remaster may be months away, with the Feb re-issue being just that -- a re-issue with a new award jacket.

I'd love to see Disney get their act together on this, and am still hopeful that the marketing people may not be in the loop.

As it stands, this is not a pre-order.

RAH 
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post #101 of 132
11/24/09 at 5:24pm
That you heard rumblings of a new film scan is a good sign at least, even if it doesn't make the February date.

Vincent
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post #102 of 132
11/25/09 at 3:31pm
It seems that Disney are cynically trying to maximise their revenue from this present disaster of a transfer by re-releasing it in new packaging to unsuspecting purchasers a few months before (presumably) releasing their new transfer.  And Amazon.com have misleadingly included "rmast" in their product description - they should be told to remove that.
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post #103 of 132
11/25/09 at 5:36pm
Re "And Amazon.com have misleadingly included "rmast" in their product description - they should be told to remove that."

I think Amazon likely lists simply that info which they get from the distributor/studio, so I think that's a BVHE issue.
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post #104 of 132
11/27/09 at 8:01am

As always, thanks for the update RAH. I haven't seen a decent presentation of GONY since seeing it theatrically, so I can wait a bit longer for the remastered version.

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post #105 of 132
11/27/09 at 1:51pm
I had heard a few months back that a possible remaster was gonna be done, but it doesn't surprise me that this particular February release is a marketing repackage. It happens all the time from almost all the studios, so no big surprise here.

The way I heard it was that Disney did use the approved master for the Blu-ray, and it even went all the way back to Schoonmaker/Scorsese looking at it as compared to the approved master, and them basically saying, "Yeah, that's the approved master - don't know how we could have approved that in 2002/2003. Let's do it again..."
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post #106 of 132
11/27/09 at 3:41pm
Or; the remastered pressing may just not be ready to tie into the Feb. 2010 theatrical release of Shutter Island...?

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Originally Posted by Bruce Morrison View Post

It seems that Disney are cynically trying to maximise their revenue from this present disaster of a transfer by re-releasing it in new packaging to unsuspecting purchasers a few months before (presumably) releasing their new transfer.  And Amazon.com have misleadingly included "rmast" in their product description - they should be told to remove that.


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post #107 of 132
12/14/09 at 6:39pm
The new cover is up at Amazon--"Miramax Award-Winning Collection."
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post #108 of 132
12/31/09 at 10:26am
i just did a crazy thing ... i actually asked them [disney] about this. and they said ... 

"The Re-release of the Gangs of New York Blu-ray has been re-mastered to improve the video quality.  The tentative release date for this title is February 2, 2010."

not conclusive, but it's another straw to grab onto. i can live with this for now. 
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post #109 of 132
12/31/09 at 11:00am
Any new "411," RAH?

As of this typing, the Amazon product listing has gone from including the above-referenced "rmast" to explicitly saying "Remastered."  Smelling more and more like "just" a Shutter Island tie-in?  "Funny" that we're not getting a Bringing Out the Dead BD even though Par has had an additional six months to prep the disc (given Shutter's date push).  Or is it "too soon" in terms of market penetration/potential sales for a BD of a catalogger than only grossed $16M?
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post #110 of 132
12/31/09 at 11:10am
Ooooh--cross-posted/didn't see this beforehand, Andy.

Did you call BVHE Consumer Relations?  Or e-mailed?


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Originally Posted by Andy_MT View Post

i just did a crazy thing ... i actually asked them [disney] about this. and they said ... 

"The Re-release of the Gangs of New York Blu-ray has been re-mastered to improve the video quality.  The tentative release date for this title is February 2, 2010."

not conclusive, but it's another straw to grab onto. i can live with this for now. 


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post #111 of 132
12/31/09 at 12:05pm
 emailed them. just got a reply back after a day. 
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post #112 of 132
12/31/09 at 2:51pm
and look ... 

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=2713668&postcount=8519
another confirmation. i'm getting that tingling kind of sensation ... i think it might just happen.
 
 
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post #113 of 132
12/31/09 at 3:59pm
Thanks for the word of Jeff's post, Andy.  Curious to me that BVHE didn't take steps to make sure early and often that this is indeed a new encode if that is the case.
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post #114 of 132
12/31/09 at 4:32pm
 very true. even more curious that they released that first edition looking the way it did. the mouse moves in mysterious ways !
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post #115 of 132
12/31/09 at 7:23pm
Careful, maybe the new one looks even worse ;)

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post #116 of 132
12/31/09 at 8:05pm
LOL, John--exactly.

What I meant in my last post was ". . . make CLEAR TO CONSUMERS early and often . . . ."
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post #117 of 132
1/29/10 at 1:13pm
It's a officially a new master / transfer, folks.

http://blu-news.com/index.php/2010/01/gangs-of-new-york-remastered-blu-ray-screenshot-comparisons/
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post #118 of 132
1/29/10 at 2:58pm
Those screenshots look gorgeous and like pure film.  It sounds like they took RAH's advice.
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post #119 of 132
1/29/10 at 4:38pm
Now if only Paramount would do the same for Gladiator.
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post #120 of 132
1/29/10 at 4:44pm
Paramount is probably working it out with Universal (international distributor and makers of that Gladiator transfer) first.
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