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3G iPhone: Huge Revelation or Bust?

post #1 of 15
6/18/08 at 2:43am
Thread Starter 
On July 11th I may be eating a lot of crow for even paying
attention to this rumor, but I think by the time you are done
reading this post you will agree with me that Steve Jobs may have
one final surprise for 3G iPhone buyers.

Go to today's top iPhone Freak Story...

Click Here

The article states that if you look at the video demo of the Apple
phone from WDC you can see what appears to be a smudge or a
camera on the upper left corner of the phone.

Here is the video in question. Look closely in the upper left corner
in the first few seconds...

Click Here

Yeah, it looks like a camera in the upper left corner.

Here is the kicker to the whole thing. Take a look at the new
Marware cases for the new iPhone....

Click Here

See the hole in the upper left corner?

There are two theories here....

It' just a third proximity sensor or we are getting a front facing camera for video chatting.

The recent feedback I am getting suggests it's a sensor.
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post #2 of 15
6/18/08 at 5:50am

Re: 3G iPhone: Huge Revelation or Bust?

I'm 90% in that its just a second face detector, I remember an article where that was mentioned. I think the iP3G is a no brainer for those who didnt have a first gen but you guys with them already are going to have to watch the initial reviews. I do a ton of web surfing with my iTouch, altho there are times when I am not in wifi range where the 3G would be helpful, I dunno if it would be worth it for me personally if I already had edge to upgrade to 3G, but I think people are seriously underestimating the draw of the GPS and location based services.

3G is the big attention getter.
GPS is going to be the real long term winner.

If you haven't seen the Loopd demo, go check that out and realize this is only the tip of the iceberg.

I can't say I'd use two way video chat all that much but it is certain to come in a future model, I just don't see it for this round.
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post #3 of 15
6/18/08 at 7:30am

Re: 3G iPhone: Huge Revelation or Bust?

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten
If you haven't seen the Loopd demo, go check that out and realize this is only the tip of the iceberg.
I saw the loopd demo and wondered what universe these people live in? Is this normal life for a 20-something in San Francisco? It has no relation to any life I've lived Who are these people with hundreds of friends, also owning iPhones and loopd software, who're always out and about, eating lunch, shopping, continuously updating their mini-log on their life, apparently unimpeded by work and family?

Looks fun, if I lived in that alternate universe
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post #4 of 15
6/18/08 at 8:11am

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1 vote for sensor. I understand there are more in this version.

Dave - I agree. Orwellian Image
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post #5 of 15
6/18/08 at 10:41am

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I've heard that it's another sensor as well.
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I think people are seriously underestimating the draw of the GPS and location based services. ... GPS is going to be the real long term winner.
Agreed. I agree with Dave that Loopd seems more than a little trivial (and if you didn't see the WWDC keynote yet, the Loopd CEO who gave the demo looks to be about 16), but for travelers location-based services, if done right, could be killer.
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post #6 of 15
6/18/08 at 11:26am

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How is Loopd really any different from any of these "social networking" sites? They're all pretty worthless in my estimation. Why would I care that some anonymous stranger on the Internet wants to be my "friend." Get a life...
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post #7 of 15
6/18/08 at 12:33pm

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I hear ya. Talk to me about LBS in 6 months tho and lets see who is more wrong or right...

We are only at the tip of the iceberg with this stuff, imagine if you will a few interesting twists:
- Location based services at theme parks
- Fishing and other events where specific locations are critical and currently very hard to pin down
- Parents tracking childrens locations
- dating services

Yep, it all comes back to the hook up =p
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post #8 of 15
6/18/08 at 1:55pm

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Originally Posted by Michael_K_Sr
How is Loopd really any different from any of these "social networking" sites? They're all pretty worthless in my estimation. Why would I care that some anonymous stranger on the Internet wants to be my "friend." Get a life...
Though I have no use for MyFace, etc. I at least have some sense of how they fit in the universe as I experience it.

But the demo of loopd was revealing a lifestyle that's just foreign to me. It seems very different than the social sites. It's not just updating your FaceSpace site and virtually-poking new and old friends and presidential candidates. It's about digitally documenting your life as you live it. Each event, you tell loopd, "Here I am, buying coffee."; "Now I'm driving to buy a book." ; "Now I'm shopping for clothes."; "Now I'm at the chic bohemian eatery we all love."

And it's about having a multitude of friends who all log their lives on smartphones with loopd. And who are always out and about when you are so there are many times to meet up with someone based on loopd.

I don't get it. First, my friends would never document their life digitally like this. That may be a generational thing.

I saw the demo and thought, like we used to do with the '90s beer commercials "I wish that was my life." Then I realized that for me, it's an alien notion. It would never be my life. It may be quite sensible to urbanites. I'd love to hear from those that saw that demo and though "that's exactly what I need!"
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post #9 of 15
6/18/08 at 2:48pm

Re: 3G iPhone: Huge Revelation or Bust?

Proximity sensor. That said, I wouldn't put it past Apple to have a "one more thing" in software.

However the "Huge Revelation" will be:

1) 2.0 firmware with the iTunes App Store.
...
... {#1 is way more important than 2 or 3}
...
2) GPS.
3) 3G in Europe and Asia, where it is really needed, and in the U.S., in so far as it gets people to buy the iPhone because someone wants the buzzword.
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post #10 of 15
6/18/08 at 3:07pm

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Originally Posted by DaveF
But the demo of loopd was revealing a lifestyle that's just foreign to me. It seems very different than the social sites. It's not just updating your FaceSpace site and virtually-poking new and old friends and presidential candidates. It's about digitally documenting your life as you live it. Each event, you tell loopd, "Here I am, buying coffee."; "Now I'm driving to buy a book." ; "Now I'm shopping for clothes."; "Now I'm at the chic bohemian eatery we all love."
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I'd never heard of loopt (I pretty sure you mean loopt not loopd) until just now, but what you are describing is Twitter. I've never used it, but believe me, it will be huge. The idea behind Twitter is micro-blogging. It could be used for mundane, see-me-now type of stuff, or it could be on much less superficial topics. Think of it as group IM/texting or IRC divided by self selecting group of people rather than subject. Honestly I think the idea is brilliant (in a way that MySpace/Facebook & co. are NOT).

The one problem with Twitter is that it has severe growing pains -- it can't keep up with the traffic.
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post #11 of 15
6/18/08 at 8:41pm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
But the demo of loopd was revealing a lifestyle that's just foreign to me. It seems very different than the social sites. It's not just updating your FaceSpace site and virtually-poking new and old friends and presidential candidates. It's about digitally documenting your life as you live it. Each event, you tell loopd, "Here I am, buying coffee."; "Now I'm driving to buy a book." ; "Now I'm shopping for clothes."; "Now I'm at the chic bohemian eatery we all love."

Ewww... why would I want the entire world to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing at any given time? In particular, my bosses...
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post #12 of 15
6/19/08 at 5:40am

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Originally Posted by Yee-Ming
Ewww... why would I want the entire world to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing at any given time? In particular, my bosses...
Pseudonyms are allowed, you know...
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post #13 of 15
6/19/08 at 3:34pm

Re: 3G iPhone: Huge Revelation or Bust?

I wish Apple would have a couple of surprises up their sleeves but alas I think we are giving them too much credit.
It seems that the era of surprises that turn the world on its ear are over with and what is left is that empty feeling of disappointment.
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post #14 of 15
6/20/08 at 8:18am

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Originally Posted by Blu
I wish Apple would have a couple of surprises up their sleeves but alas I think we are giving them too much credit.
It seems that the era of surprises that turn the world on its ear are over with and what is left is that empty feeling of disappointment.

Monkey Ball on a 3 inch screen didn't exactly blow my skirt up. Remember the first demo of iChat?

I agree with Ted, the software will put a shine on both models. It needs it after so many letdowns in the keynote.
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post #15 of 15
6/20/08 at 12:05pm

Re: 3G iPhone: Huge Revelation or Bust?

I think some people’s expectations for the second generation were a bit unrealistic. There just wasn’t a chance in hell that it would have the same WOW facture that the first generation had.

I’m a first generation user and I have no need to upgrade to the G3 version at this time. For me the new ones simply don’t offer enough new items to justify the purchase. For those that don’t currently have an iPhone I would not hesitate to recommend that they get one.
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