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post #1 of 92
6/13/08 at 3:22am
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'Incredible Hulk' Blu-ray Planned with 70 Minutes of Cut Footage | High-Def Digest

Louis Leterrier says fans can expect 70 MINUTES of Additional Footage on the INCREDIBLE HULK Blu-ray DVD!

"Question: I have to ask you…there’s been a lot of talk about the 2 different cuts that exist on the movie. Obviously the DVD is going to have more footage.

Louis Leterrier: Yeah.

Question: So, could you talk about what was cut out of the film, like is there 15 minutes?

Louis Leterrier: No, the final way of me cutting this…maybe there’s like 10-15 minutes of stuff, but there’s a lot of stuff like on the Blue-ray I think we’ll have 70 minutes of stuff.

Question: Seventeen or…

Louis Leterrier: Seventy. 7-0.

Question: 70!

Louis Leterrier: Yeah, because you shoot a lot of stuff, yeah. What’s another picture? Yeah, but that’s what great. It’s like the back story. It’s more the sequel to the Ang Lee movie.

Question: I have to ask you…so the Blue-ray…the DVD just has a little bit…

Louis Leterrier: No the Blue-ray…it’s whatever we can put on the DVD. Like DVD’s you have like 3 hours of like yeah…you have a limit of 3 hours of footage and stuff. The Blue-ray you have something like 100 hours, so if they do a double DVD but like the Blue-Ray is what’s going to be good. So on the Blue-ray I’m trying to put as much of the stuff…

I want to put everything we shot, you know? I’m not the kind of guy that likes to keep the stuff for myself. I’m like, okay you student filmmakers, here’s what I did right and here’s what I did wrong and in some of the stuff, in the 70 minutes, there’s some great stuff and there’s some really horrible stuff, but you’ll see it all, you know?"

Wow. Let´s hope, that this will be true (I mean, perhaps studio won´t "approve" of this plan or something...). I have nothing against these "extended/Dir.cut/etc"-versions, as long as the original is available.

edit: Just to make sure... The film is "The Incredible Hulk (2008)", with Edward Norton..
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post #2 of 92
6/13/08 at 6:46am

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Strange. He was on Attack of the Show (a G4 show) and he was asked if he was going to release a directors cut and he said no, that the theatrical cut was the directors cut. Maybe they'll include Norton's cut or just include the deleted scenes separate from the film.
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post #3 of 92
6/13/08 at 8:08am
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Quote from the link:

**"I’m like, okay you student filmmakers, here’s what I did right and here’s what I did wrong and in some of the stuff, in the 70 minutes, there’s some great stuff and there’s some really horrible stuff, but you’ll see it all, you know?"**

So IF there´ll be some kind of "extended version" with additional 70 minutes, it´s not "Director´s cut". Not all longer versions are "Directors' versions" anyway.
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post #4 of 92
6/13/08 at 8:26am

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I strongly suspect, from his comments, that the extra footage will be separate from the film, with commentary to explain why the footage didn't make the cut. There are probably as many alternative as extended scenes and the former are not easily integrated to make a new cut of a film (though they can be, of course).
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post #5 of 92
6/13/08 at 9:05am

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I must admit I am a bit confused about this as well. I haven't been following the production of this film too closely, but it is well known that Norton wanted a longer cut. However, I had also heard that a large part of the reason why the film was trimmed from the ~140 minute cut Norton was pushing to the eventual 116 minute theatrical cut had to do with theater distributor concerns.

That said, I'd rather see both Leterrier and Norton's cuts on the eventual Blu-ray Disc than 70 minutes of all the cut scenes 'dumped' on there. From the reviews I've read, it sounded like the film could've done with a bit of fleshing out. Alas, they'll probably save Norton's cut for a double-dip if it ever sees the light at all.
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post #6 of 92
6/13/08 at 10:31am

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I hope and pray that all 70 minutes isn't reinserted into the movie. It's one thing if they add some material back in but 70 minutes of additions would be ridiculous.
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post #7 of 92
6/13/08 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
That said, I'd rather see both Leterrier and Norton's cuts on the eventual Blu-ray Disc...

I´m not sure, where these "Leterrier cut" and "Norton cut" comes from? I don´t want to sound rude, but it´s not that the world knows two "cuts"; Leterrier and Norton.

So far we have had only various rumors (e.g. Leterrier talks about them in detail in the interview-link) and to me they´re just that; rumors. Debates and arguments happen when people make movies. And there´s also the pressure from the studio. Sure, "something" happened. But then again; so what?
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post #8 of 92
6/13/08 at 4:24pm

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Whatever it takes to make a better picture. I just saw it and it's just terrible. There's nothing new or interesting in it and it just made me keep asking why we needed another Hulk film. As vocal as Norton has been about this cut, I really hope we get to see his version on BD.
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post #9 of 92
6/13/08 at 5:28pm

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Originally Posted by Jari K
I´m not sure, where these "Leterrier cut" and "Norton cut" comes from? I don´t want to sound rude, but it´s not that the world knows two "cuts"; Leterrier and Norton.

I think it is pretty obvious when a person threatens not to do any promotion for a film that they're a) not happy with it in its current form and b) have another version they're more satisified with. Whether that version is truly another cut or an 'idea' of a cut is pretty semantic, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by PatWahlquist
Whatever it takes to make a better picture. I just saw it and it's just terrible. There's nothing new or interesting in it and it just made me keep asking why we needed another Hulk film. As vocal as Norton has been about this cut, I really hope we get to see his version on BD.

Alas, this is what I have been afraid of from day one. I kinda, sorta promised I would take my son to see this on Father's Day, but this kind of word of mouth coupled with no DLP showings in my area are really making me hope he forgets I said we'd go.
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post #10 of 92
6/13/08 at 7:42pm

Re: "Incredible Hulk" Blu-ray: Planned with 70 Minutes of Cut Footage?

I too must concur w/ others that I can't imagine wanting all 70 minutes of cut footages reinserted into the film -- and it does sound like he's probably talking mostly about providing deleted scenes rather than a full 70-minute longer cut (though he's also a bit confusing in the way he says things too).

When I first read about it, I was like that's crazy if he really wants all 70 minutes added back in, especially since he explicitly says some of that stuff is "really horrible".

Anyway, given bad reviews and word-of-mouth, I'll just save this for a rental -- and maybe it won't put me to sleep like Ang Lee's Hulk did.

_Man_
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post #11 of 92
6/13/08 at 9:28pm

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Paul, take your son, as the wife and I caught it last night and we both thought it was fantastic. A very worthy companion piece to Iron Man. Norton is fantastic, as is the rest of the cast. Marvel is now two for two.

I would really like a Norton cut on the Blu-Ray, as I am excited about seeing the Arctic segment (namely a great scene where Banner loses hope, only to be let known that doing so is not an option), as well as the scene with Doc Samson and Bruce that was in the original trailer. I don't believe Norton's cut is some three hour epic, I think the main debate was what to keep in and what to cut. Norton wanted a few more character moments, whereas Marvel wanted to keep it pretty briskly paced. I think the current cut is a good mesh of both.

I'm thinking word of mouth on this is going to be very enthusiastic. We had a packed house and applause when the end credits hit (it's hard not to want to applaud after the very last scene). I appreciated Lee's Hulk for trying something different, but I can't get halfway through it without getting bored. Bored is never something you feel with the new film, whether it's in the action scenes or the many great quieter character moments.
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post #12 of 92
6/14/08 at 8:20am

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The director's first language is French, not English (which would account for some of the confusion).

I actually liked Lee's version quite a bit (I know, I'm in the minority--along with Roger Ebert). I will likely see (if time permits) the new one in the cinema and will reserve judgment until having seen it. As for the idea of "an extended cut"--I'm of two minds on that. Several such cuts are successful (IMO) but not all. So I hope, with the BD release, IF there is a longer cut, it will not be IN PLACE of the original but supplemental to it.
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post #13 of 92
6/14/08 at 11:09am

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Originally Posted by Nick Graham
Paul, take your son, as the wife and I caught it last night and we both thought it was fantastic. A very worthy companion piece to Iron Man. Norton is fantastic, as is the rest of the cast. Marvel is now two for two.

Nick, thanks. I'll take him. It isn't like he's going to forget I promised him anyway. He's got a mind like a steel trap as far as promises to be taken to the movies go. The apple hasn't fallen very far from the tree.
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post #14 of 92
6/14/08 at 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by PatWahlquist
Whatever it takes to make a better picture. I just saw it and it's just terrible. There's nothing new or interesting in it and it just made me keep asking why we needed another Hulk film.


Couldn't disagree more. This was a great flick that finally erased the horrible Ang Lee debacle from my consciousness. I can now pretend that movie never existed and enjoy the first true entry in the Hulk franchise. Can't wait for the Blu-Ray.
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post #15 of 92
6/14/08 at 2:55pm

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I never understood the hate for Lee's version. I understand the disappointment that it lacks "action" for a movie about a half-ton mass of inexhaustible strength and rage, but I thought the character development was good. I also liked that Banner was "aware" while he was the Hulk, something I fear may have been abandoned in this version. Oh well, to each his own, I guess.
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post #16 of 92
6/14/08 at 5:51pm

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I also liked that Banner was "aware" while he was the Hulk, something I fear may have been abandoned in this version.

Fear not.
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post #17 of 92
6/14/08 at 8:16pm

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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I never understood the hate for Lee's version. I understand the disappointment that it lacks "action" for a movie about a half-ton mass of inexhaustible strength and rage, but I thought the character development was good. I also liked that Banner was "aware" while he was the Hulk, something I fear may have been abandoned in this version. Oh well, to each his own, I guess.


No offense, but I thought it was absolutely horrible. I saw it in the theater and honestly couldn't wait for it to end. In fact, I almost just got up and left, but I was able to make it through to the end. When it came out on DVD, I figured I'd give it another chance in hopes that I would like it better with a repeat viewing. Didn't happen. Actually, I was even more miserable trying to watch it the second time around. Thankfully, the new film blows Lee's version away and gives us a Hulk film that's actually worth watching.
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post #18 of 92
6/14/08 at 8:16pm

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Originally Posted by PaulDA
I never understood the hate for Lee's version. I understand the disappointment that it lacks "action" for a movie about a half-ton mass of inexhaustible strength and rage, but I thought the character development was good. I also liked that Banner was "aware" while he was the Hulk, something I fear may have been abandoned in this version. Oh well, to each his own, I guess.

Never understood it either, I think it's one of the best comic-book movies to date. With 70 minutes being added in why bother seeing this in the theater?
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post #19 of 92
6/14/08 at 8:36pm

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
With 70 minutes being added in why bother seeing this in the theater?
There may be a total of 70 minutes of deleted scenes and added footage on home video but there's no way that they're going to add all 70 minutes to the movie.
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post #20 of 92
6/14/08 at 8:38pm

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Re: Ang Lee's Hulk, I actually liked it. However, and I am going to get in trouble for this, I always thought it gave the character way too much credit. The Hulk is never what I would classify as very deep. The character may have evolved, along with its various skin tones, in depth, but I always remember him as a rather stupid creature and not much of a superhero. So, falling back on or drawing on the TV show is probably the right idea if a commericial success is what is desired, and it is obvious it is. Ang Lee's Hulk, in my opinion, was a classic case of an extremely talented director trying to elevate very slipshod Jekyll and Hyde-derivative material past its breaking point.
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post #21 of 92
6/15/08 at 2:18am
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Originally Posted by TravisR
There may be a total of 70 minutes of deleted scenes and added footage on home video but there's no way that they're going to add all 70 minutes to the movie.

Well, you never know, but at this point it doesn´t sound fully believable. I guess studio just might say, that "look, this is not happening - just add 15 minutes max". I´m sure that the "extended"-version is coming.

I pretty much agree with both PaulA and PaulDA here. Ang Lee's Hulk was pretty good, but I also understand the "lack of silly comic action"-part.. And where was the decent villain in the end?

IMO, Ang Lee's Hulk was better than most of these superhero-movies, including Spider-Man 1, FF 1, Daredevil.. Not as good as X-men 1-2 (didn´t cared about the 3rd..), Batman Begins, etc, though.

So yes, it was a decent movie (Ang Lee's Hulk).
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post #22 of 92
6/15/08 at 6:55pm

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Originally Posted by TravisR
There may be a total of 70 minutes of deleted scenes and added footage on home video but there's no way that they're going to add all 70 minutes to the movie.

Why not? Jackson did it with Lord of the Rings.
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post #23 of 92
6/15/08 at 8:07pm

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
Why not? Jackson did it with Lord of the Rings.
He didn't add an extra 50% to LOTR though. On average, the extended versions of LOTR movies didn't even add 20% to the running time.

If 70 more minutes actually works in the movie, great. It's just that I can't believe that they could make a movie that works best at 3 hours, cut more than an hour out and still have a comprehensible movie for the theatrical cut.
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post #24 of 92
6/15/08 at 9:22pm

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When the director was interviewed on Attack of the Show last week he clearly stated that the version of the movie on DVD/Blu-Ray would be exactly what was seen in theaters. He said that everything he shot will be included on the Blu-Ray, but I'm pretty sure he meant there will be an extensive offering of deleted scenes. There's no way he's adding 70 minutes to form a super extended cut of the film.
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post #25 of 92
6/16/08 at 11:35am

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Originally Posted by Jari K
I pretty much agree with both PaulA and PaulDA here. Ang Lee's Hulk was pretty good, but I also understand the "lack of silly comic action"-part.. And where was the decent villain in the end?

Actually, IIRC, I was up for the approach that Ang Lee was taking w/ that film. However, I just found it to meander a bit too much (and seemingly aimlessly so) in the middle portion. Admittedly, it also didn't help that I was a bit tired when I watched it, but I don't normally have a big problem (or dislike) w/ slower paced films regardless of whether I'm tired or not -- normally, even if I fell asleep due to tiredness, it doesn't impact my impression too much of what I did see to make me not want to give it another try real soon. But then again, maybe this could be an exception.

Still, I wouldn't really expect a whole lot from *any* Hulk film. Like Paul A suggested, the Hulk really was never all *that* interesting of a character anyway.

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IMO, Ang Lee's Hulk was better than most of these superhero-movies, including Spider-Man 1, FF 1, Daredevil.. Not as good as X-men 1-2 (didn´t cared about the 3rd..), Batman Begins, etc, though.

So yes, it was a decent movie (Ang Lee's Hulk).

Well, I'd actually think it a big insult to Ang Lee (and his Hulk) to even mention either of the two FF films, if we're concerned about decent-to-good/solid films in the genre. I never saw the theatrical version of Daredevil, but found the director's cut(?) to be pretty decent, which seems to be the general consensus (that it is definitely a significantly better version). I thought Spidey #1 was a bit too melodramatic and heavyhanded wrt Peter Parker's lack of self-esteem and such and maybe not as well developed on the Spidey side of the equation (plus the CGI/SFX just didn't seem very good).

I guess Ang Lee's Hulk was striving to be more like a "serious" Batman flick, but missed the mark in the end.

_Man_
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post #26 of 92
6/16/08 at 1:09pm

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I'll definitely pick this up. Saw the film, really liked it after going in with low expectations. I'll be interested in seeing all the deleted/alternate scenes, but I think the film as finished for theaters is pretty solid.
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post #27 of 92
6/16/08 at 1:49pm

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I don't think Hulk is shallow at all. The concept is actually simplicity, but there is alot of depth to be mined, as Peter David's exceptional run on the character showed.

The Hulk is about fear, control, and power. The Ultimates comic got a few things right...specifically that the Hulk is the human nuclear warhead. He's a weapon of mass destruction in the body of a regular guy (I didn't like how the Ultimates portrayed the Hulk - a bit too juvenile and unsubtle), and the guy has the perpetual fear of destroying everything he cares about when he loses control.

I think the new film conveyed that very well.

Anyways, I've always thought the Hulk was one of the better properties to adapt. Both for the carnage and the lessons

And he's a monster, not a superhero.

Looking forward to the home release. I'd like to see the deleted scenes, but the theatrical version is fine as is.
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post #28 of 92
6/19/08 at 12:11am

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Not sure where people are saying they've heard negative comments about the new movie. Feels like the first person to post in this thread that had seen it didn't like it and everyone kind of took their cue from there.

As for me, I thought the new movie was incedibly exciting, a much better mix between story and action than the first. I was worried that the bad guy would just be another big monster with no real charcter but those fears were completely groundless. He is actually someone with a very clear motivation and it works very well. It made complete sense (unlike, say, the ending of the first). In addition, I found the CGI to be absolutely incredible and to rarely have that "cartoon look" that sometimes reared it's ugly head in the first. I was really worried that I would find the actors to be a big step down (particularly Liv and the General), but again those fears were completely proven wrong. In the end, I enjoyed myself almost as much as Iron Man, which was quite unexpected to me. A few months ago this movie looked like junk to me.

As for Ang Lee's film, I can understand what he was going for but it just seemed to be the wrong approach for the movie in many places. I loved the actors they chose and thought they did well, but the mutant poodles and the father character really kind of ruined it for me.

I worry that people will skip over the new one because either (a) they saw the first one and hated it and assume the second will be more of the same or (b) they saw the first and liked it and will assume the "reboot" is just a stupid action movie.
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post #29 of 92
6/19/08 at 11:19am

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I worry that people will skip over the new one because either (a) they saw the first one and hated it and assume the second will be more of the same or (b) they saw the first and liked it and will assume the "reboot" is just a stupid action movie.


Well, it did make $55 million opening weekend so there are a lot of people out there, myself included, who were able to get past how much they disliked the Ang Lee film and give this reboot a chance.
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post #30 of 92
6/20/08 at 8:21pm

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I'll give the reboot a chance when it hits Blu-ray as a blind buy. Looks good but from what I've seen in the trailers, not as good as Lee's version.
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