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My Three Sons appears to be back on the schedule

post #1 of 39
6/9/08 at 9:26am
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According to TVShowsonDVD.com they're predicting a September release date for season one. Really hope it happens this time!
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post #2 of 39
6/9/08 at 10:13am

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at that price, they really should toss in the rest of the season.
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post #3 of 39
6/9/08 at 11:59am

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
at that price, they really should toss in the rest of the season.

Word. $43 for HALF of Season One???
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post #4 of 39
6/9/08 at 12:41pm
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I'm betting you'll be able to find it for much less than the MSRP.
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post #5 of 39
6/9/08 at 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by Elena S
I'm betting you'll be able to find it for much less than the MSRP.

30% off the week of release isn't uncommon.
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post #6 of 39
6/9/08 at 2:27pm

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And so begins yet another thread derail into complaining about half season sets and their prices.
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post #7 of 39
6/9/08 at 3:03pm

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but the SRP on Love Boat is 36.98
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post #8 of 39
6/9/08 at 3:13pm

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There was a day when I would have purchased MTS no questions asked, but, like other posters above, I feel this price is way too high and I'm going to have to rethink this.

This is a half hour sitcom with 18 episodes in Vol 1. Full seasons of hour long dramas like Mannix and Hawaii Five-O that have significantly more content don't cost much more than this. Also, compare this MSRP to that of Get Smart ($25 for a full season) and something seems way out of whack here.

I don't like split seasons but will support them if that's what it takes to get these out. However, I also expect pricing to be reasonable. This is not.

If CBS/Paramount doesn't reconsider this price then MTS has the potential of being one of their few abandoned series.
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post #9 of 39
6/9/08 at 4:29pm

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The thing with My Three Sons is that in my market back in the '70s, they only reran the Chip and Ernie era and avoided the black and white years with the other son. We didn't know that William Frawley was on the show. So it's an unknown season to the "rerun" kids.
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post #10 of 39
6/9/08 at 6:06pm

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
The thing with My Three Sons is that in my market back in the '70s, they only reran the Chip and Ernie era and avoided the black and white years with the other son. We didn't know that William Frawley was on the show. So it's an unknown season to the "rerun" kids.

Your point is well taken but I would think the Nick at Nite airings of the Frawley years exposed many fans to this aspect of the series. Still, that is the only time I ever saw those episodes. Growing up in the 70s I never knew Bub existed either.
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post #11 of 39
6/9/08 at 6:39pm

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The first 5 seasons are far superior to the color ones. It's almost like 2 different shows.
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post #12 of 39
6/9/08 at 7:40pm

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any show with William Frawley is superior to one without him.
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post #13 of 39
6/9/08 at 10:11pm

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
any show with William Frawley is superior to one without him.

Amen to that. If you ask me Frawley should be on the cover. I would venture to guess that in this day and age, if someone were to make a blind buy over a "Fred" it would be Mertz not MacMurray!

The price does seem kind of high. I wonder if there are any costs associated with it that we don't realize? Music, shared ownership, etc.
That may be the reason for the split season. To keep it from costing 80 bucks! Hopefully as time goes on they switch to seasons. Can you imagine having to wait for and pay for 24 volumes?

Again, I say passing over the release is not the answer. Support it, and at the same time write a letter to CBS saying you would like them to consider full seasons.
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post #14 of 39
6/9/08 at 10:28pm
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The price doesn't bother me. Everything is skyrocketing, why not DVDs? If it's a show you want, BUY IT. Otherwise the rest of the seasons won't see the light of day.

Pretty soon the business of DVD collecting will be just like anything else -- we'll have to place our priorities on which DVDs we want badly enough to dole out the extra money. It may mean having to pass on the ones we don't.
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post #15 of 39
6/9/08 at 11:00pm

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Still laughably cheap. Let's see, when I recorded all of the My Three Sons off Nick at Nite around 1985, high grade VHS tapes were about $10 or so. 4 episodes on a tape so the first 20 shows cost $50 in 1985 dollars. That would be what today, about $150? Tell me again how this set is expensive.
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post #16 of 39
6/9/08 at 11:39pm

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The SRP has to be a mistake.
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post #17 of 39
6/10/08 at 8:25am

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Originally Posted by DeWilson
The SRP has to be a mistake.
Why? It's only $3 more than most of Paramount's other shows.
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post #18 of 39
6/10/08 at 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
at that price, they really should toss in the rest of the season.

They aren't kidding about placing thier shows on a pedestal.
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post #19 of 39
6/10/08 at 3:19pm

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
The thing with My Three Sons is that in my market back in the '70s, they only reran the Chip and Ernie era and avoided the black and white years with the other son. We didn't know that William Frawley was on the show. So it's an unknown season to the "rerun" kids.


Same, I'm 43 years old and watched rerun TV throughout the 70s. I didn't know anything other than the color episodes with Ernie and Uncle Charley existed until about a year ago on this forum. I'm quite excited about seeing Frawley actually, who I love watching.

As for the half seasons, yeah, DEAD before it starts basically. Which is their goal when it comes to classic TV. "But we tried...honest". It doesn't matter if there are a hundred episodes per season or even what it cost really. The reason they do it is they think people are stupid enough to think they are getting the same content for less money. In other words, they think all their customers are morons. I actually kinda looked forward to Love Boat for several years, but then I had to ask "Is it important, and am I as stupid as they think?" It's irrelevant whether or not I can afford the set (or 100 of them). I'm never the loser, because I can always watch, or do, something else.
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post #20 of 39
6/10/08 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Lx
It's irrelevant whether or not I can afford the set (or 100 of them). I'm never the loser, because I can always watch, or do, something else.
Well, then, you either don't want it badly enough or you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. And you guys wonder why classic TV doesn't sell well. I guess the sets have to be only on your own terms or the whole deal's off.
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post #21 of 39
6/10/08 at 7:07pm

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About that price:

Half the time that I see one source tell me that a Paramount TV-DVD set is $42.99 SRP, a different source tells me later on that it's either $36.99 or $39.99 SRP instead.

Don't make too much of the $42.99 stuff (PLEASE!)...Amazon, if noone else, will discount it based on the sub-$40 price.

Years ago Paramount made a big deal out of saying that their policy was that they don't mark TV-DVDs with official list prices; that they give all retailers the wholesale price and let them figure out what the heck they want to say the SRP is. More recently I see official-looking list prices on studio-issued stuff, so I figured that this old policy went away. However, incidents like this one make me realize that it must still be around...at least in some form or another.
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post #22 of 39
6/10/08 at 8:05pm

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Originally Posted by Elena S
Well, then, you either don't want it badly enough or you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. And you guys wonder why classic TV doesn't sell well. I guess the sets have to be only on your own terms or the whole deal's off.

Elena, I enjoy reading your posts, but I do respectfully disagree with you here. If MTS flops it will not be because of the "on your own terms" attitude but rather because CBS has essentially put an $80 price tag on a S1 release at a time when people need $80 just to fill their gas tank once. Even factoring in discounts one is still looking at a $55-$60 outlay for a half hour sitcom.

As I said before it is when comparing this to the much cheaper price for a full season of hour dramas that the very high pricing of MTS becomes apparent. Compared to S1 of Get Smart, the MTS price is nothing short of highway robbery.

The argument that "you must not want this bad enough" needs to be retired IMO. Unless someone is quite wealthy or has no material expenses besides buying DVDs the great majority of consumers can not buy everything they want or even need. When economic times are challenging, as they are now, the gap widens even more.
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post #23 of 39
6/10/08 at 8:43pm

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Originally Posted by Steve...O
Elena, I enjoy reading your posts, but I do respectfully disagree with you here. If MTS flops it will not be because of the "on your own terms" attitude but rather because CBS has essentially put an $80 price tag on a S1 release at a time when people need $80 just to fill their gas tank once. Even factoring in discounts one is still looking at a $55-$60 outlay for a half hour sitcom.

As I said before it is when comparing this to the much cheaper price for a full season of hour dramas that the very high pricing of MTS becomes apparent. Compared to S1 of Get Smart, the MTS price is nothing short of highway robbery.

The argument that "you must not want this bad enough" needs to be retired IMO. Unless someone is quite wealthy or has no material expenses besides buying DVDs the great majority of consumers can not buy everything they want or even need. When economic times are challenging, as they are now, the gap widens even more.


You know what, if you really think this is expensive then you really shouldn't be in the hobby. I don't mean that to be cruel but give me a break. When I started in 1980 my take-home pay was $120 a week and blank tapes were $15 if you found them on sale. If you taped in SP, 4 shows a tape for $15. Now you complain 28 years later about 20 shows for what will be about $30? I can only speak for myself but now I make more than 10 times what I did back then and I'm paying LESS per show. You want sympathy? How about sympathy for the collectors who started in the mid-70s with UMatic 1 hour tapes that cost $30 a tape? No offense intended, but some perspective might be in order.
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post #24 of 39
6/10/08 at 8:53pm

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[quote=Hank Dearborn]You know what, if you really think this is expensive then you really shouldn't be in the hobby. I don't mean that to be cruel but give me a break. When I started in 1980 my take-home pay was $120 a week and blank tapes were $15 if you found them on sale. If you taped in SP, 4 shows a tape for $15. Now you complain 28 years later about 20 shows for what will be about $30? I can only speak for myself but now I make more than 10 times what I did back then and I'm paying LESS per show. You want sympathy? How about sympathy for the collectors who started in the mid-70s with UMatic 1 hour tapes that cost $30 a tape? No offense intended, but some perspective might be in order.[/quote

Do you ever have anything to post that isn't arrogant and condescending?
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post #25 of 39
6/10/08 at 9:51pm

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Originally Posted by Hank Dearborn
You know what, if you really think this is expensive then you really shouldn't be in the hobby. I don't mean that to be cruel but give me a break. When I started in 1980 my take-home pay was $120 a week and blank tapes were $15 if you found them on sale. If you taped in SP, 4 shows a tape for $15. Now you complain 28 years later about 20 shows for what will be about $30? I can only speak for myself but now I make more than 10 times what I did back then and I'm paying LESS per show. You want sympathy? How about sympathy for the collectors who started in the mid-70s with UMatic 1 hour tapes that cost $30 a tape? No offense intended, but some perspective might be in order.

I agree with you Hank - Today's collector just doesn't get it - Video Collecting was an expensive hobby until the "VHS vs. Beta" wars ended.

CBS is taking a chance with this release and they has never put out a shoddy B&W Release in my option - and if the SRP is correct, Then I'll say it's worth it for a show not widley seen in years. Just becuase these are half hour shows,it doesn't mean they didn't need to put in the same amount and time to put these out in the same quality as hours shows of the same vintage, say "Perry Mason" or "Gunsmoke".
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post #26 of 39
6/10/08 at 10:52pm

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Originally Posted by Steve...O
Do you ever have anything to post that isn't arrogant and condescending?


Perhaps you could tell me why you find that to be the case? Or does it being in disagreement with you constitute that? I don't know how long you've been collecting but obviously you don't have the perspective of many years in the hobby. Sorry if pointing out to you that things cost far more years ago and how dirt cheap everything is now was upsetting to you.
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post #27 of 39
6/11/08 at 12:03am

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I wonder if half season sets of 30 minute b&w shows is working for Paramount. The only other show they tried this with is Gunsmoke, and fans complained to the hilt. I wonder what happens now -- a release of the complete season 3; no more releases at all; or a continuation of the split season releases.. I would expect to see another split season release.. I doubt they really listen to the fans when it comes to things like this.
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post #28 of 39
6/11/08 at 6:12am

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I think an argument can be made that, especially in today's economy, it is getting harder to get everything we want and we have to be more selective about what we buy. That being said, we know how much it is going to be well in advance, we know there will be some places that mark it down off SRP and we have time to save up for it.

You want MTS? Save up and be grateful we're getting a release at all. Fans of Dennis The Menace and Bonanza are still waiting for theirs.

edited because I can't spell at times
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post #29 of 39
6/11/08 at 10:00am

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Originally Posted by Hank Dearborn
You know what, if you really think this is expensive then you really shouldn't be in the hobby. I don't mean that to be cruel but give me a break. When I started in 1980 my take-home pay was $120 a week and blank tapes were $15 if you found them on sale. If you taped in SP, 4 shows a tape for $15. Now you complain 28 years later about 20 shows for what will be about $30? I can only speak for myself but now I make more than 10 times what I did back then and I'm paying LESS per show. You want sympathy? How about sympathy for the collectors who started in the mid-70s with UMatic 1 hour tapes that cost $30 a tape? No offense intended, but some perspective might be in order.

collectors? hobby? That sounds really sad. I taped shows 20 years ago because I might want to watch them again. You never know when something won't come on again. Today I might buy this set because I can't find this show on TV, or because commercial television is practically unwatchable. Do you really think you're going to collect 24 half-season sets of My Three Sons. No, you'll be lucky to see 2. So that leaves people who might find some entertainment value in this release. But if they can find more entertainment value elsewhere, they will. I can hardly be bothered to order a half-season. When it's $15 like Love Boat, maybe. But what the hell happened to economy of scale? It isn't twice as much cost to release the entire season? The answer is, they vastly overprice these half-season sets because they think people are stupid enough to pay a certain amount of money for a DVD set no matter what it contains. Probably only applies to "collectors".
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post #30 of 39
6/11/08 at 10:21am

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Originally Posted by Mark Lx
collectors? hobby? That sounds really sad.

Which part is so sad, having a hobby or collecting TV shows? Some people only buy stamps to mail letters while others collect them. So, because you see collecting or calling it a hobby one way therefore anyone who sees it another way is "sad"?
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