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post #1 of 42
6/1/08 at 7:43pm
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Everyone expects a 3G iPhone 2 with AT&T subsidies. Personally my experience with Apple is they never ever give what you expect so I wouldnt be shocked at all to see an EDGE/Wimax combo no 3g just to screw with people, but assuming there is some 3G variant I intend to swap on day 1.

Currently Verizon owns me for about a year more. I expect I will have to do the math and figure out if its wiser to just give my current cell to my nephew or pay the contract breaking fee. I see AT&T is now prorating the contract bust fee but I dont expect the pirates at Verizon will do that.

The thing is I really want to keep my current number. I believe if I cancel my contract that I can take that number with me to AT&T pretty easily, is that right?

But what if I just want to pay for my nephew to take over this phone and move my number to the iPhone and give him a new one, can I do that easily?

Guess I'll have more Qs after those are answered and once we see whats on the docket, but if anyone has any info on that it sure would help.

Sam
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post #2 of 42
6/1/08 at 8:29pm

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You can port your number over from Verizon. When you port it over from Verizon it will cancel your account and you will accessed with an early term fee. Do not cancel your account with Verizon until your number is with AT&T.
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post #3 of 42
6/2/08 at 8:28am

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Sam, a discussion on the Apple boards - Apple - Support - Discussions - How do I Port a Number over? ...

Should be the same as last year. Porting your number from V is available in the setup on your computer.
Most people confirmed a smooth ride doing the same.

You might check to see if the early out fee changes after a certain time, but I suspect V is not friendly. My V contract was for 1 year, and I'm currently on month to month. I expect some BS fees on the way out when I let Ma-Bell take over.
Switch subsidies? Friendly TelCos? Show me the way
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post #4 of 42
6/2/08 at 12:49pm

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Smooth ride for me.

A year ago I cancelled Verizon, paid the early termination fee
and easily ported over my phone number through the iTunes
iPhone registration. There's a place for you to type in your
current phone number you wish to transfer to AT&T. They do
it all for you.

All of this is done effortlessly online, by yourself, in under 5 minutes.
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post #5 of 42
6/2/08 at 3:10pm

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten
Everyone expects a 3G iPhone 2 with AT&T subsidies. Personally my experience with Apple is they never ever give what you expect so I wouldnt be shocked at all to see an EDGE/Wimax combo no 3g just to screw with people, but assuming there is some 3G variant I intend to swap on day 1.
I think the rumor mill is too full of knowledgable people saying that 3G is coming for it not to come. If it doesn't appear, it will be a huge letdown and Apple is too savvy to let the iPhone be hit with such bad buzz.
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post #6 of 42
6/2/08 at 7:38pm

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Both Verizon and Sprint started prorating early termination fees in the last year, although it's not clear to me whether that also applies to contracts signed prior to the new policy taking effect. As someone else mentioned, as soon as your Verizon number gets ported to AT&T, you're stuck with the ETF. There's no getting around it by assigning your existing phone a new number.
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post #7 of 42
6/3/08 at 10:30am
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OK, and the ETF is at most $175 right? Still might be worth it, if harsh. Monday can't come fast enough, tho I'm still not sure I believe that it will be a 'buy it today' kinda deal.

Soon enough tho I'll be tellin ya all to Hit me on my iPhone
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post #8 of 42
6/3/08 at 11:38am

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Monday can't come fast enough, tho I'm still not sure I believe that it will be a 'buy it today' kinda deal.
While I think it's pretty much a done deal that His Steveness will announce the 3G iPhone on Monday, there's some rumblings that availability might not be until later in the month, so I think you're wise to temper your anticipation a bit, Sam.

It has been fun to follow the rumors on this one. If all the rumors are correct, we'll be seeing a thinner, yet thicker, 3G iPhone with built-in GPS, improved battery life, front-mounted camera, available unlocked and subsidized from AT&T.



Yeah, that makes no sense. Besides the obvious (3G), I'm guessing it will be slightly thinner, just like almost every Apple product released recently (Steve loves him his thin). No built-in GPS (too much of a battery-juice sucker), but will support external GPS via Bluetooth (maybe there will even be an Apple-branded one). I'm saying "no" to the front-mounted camera, although I think the camera hardware & software will be greatly improved (allowing zoom, movies, etc.). And yeah, it will probably be subsidized for new contracts.

Main thing I want to hear is if there will be any trade-in offer for us iPhone 1 folks.
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post #9 of 42
6/3/08 at 1:55pm

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I'll go with a 70% chance of available today (9th)

I miss the old days of watching the keynote live.
Too crowded these days
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post #10 of 42
6/3/08 at 2:08pm
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There's only 3 words I want to hear during keyword bingo:

3G
Blu
Ray

I don't care what else comes about, if those 3 are on the dock, I'm in, for two seperate products of course! =)
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post #11 of 42
6/3/08 at 6:50pm

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Has there been an Apple product with as much hype around an upcoming release as the iPhone 2?

I mean the iPhone hype was BIG but this release is just insane at how or even IF they are going to put out a newer version and what if anything is going to be added to it.

Personally I'd love to have some really great apps without having to unlock my phone. I know that the app store will be in the next firmware version and I'd love to just be able to theme my iphone, add a few different tweaks here and there, nothing major.

I'm sure that some killer app will catch my eye though!
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post #12 of 42
6/3/08 at 8:46pm

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Originally Posted by ErichH
I'll go with a 70% chance of available today (9th)

I miss the old days of watching the keynote live.
Too crowded these days

I work for AT&T and so far we don't have any iphones on order for next week. If it is going to be available Monday we will know at our store this Friday. My guess would be next Friday at the earliest for it to be released.
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post #13 of 42
6/4/08 at 2:11am

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Jonathan,

Keep us posted. You are the "inside" guy and would be first
to know about any activity.

I need to know when to take my next sick day to stand in line.
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post #14 of 42
6/4/08 at 4:20am

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Originally Posted by Jonathan
I work for AT&T and so far we don't have any iphones on order for next week. If it is going to be available Monday we will know at our store this Friday. My guess would be next Friday at the earliest for it to be released.

Did you guys get the June15-16 no vacation request or notice?
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post #15 of 42
6/4/08 at 11:26am

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Jonathan,

Keep us posted. You are the "inside" guy and would be first
to know about any activity.

I need to know when to take my next sick day to stand in line.

If I find anything out before Monday I will post it here. I still think it's going to be next Friday at the earliest for a 3G iphone release.

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Originally Posted by ErichH
Did you guys get the June15-16 no vacation request or notice?

Yep. We haven't been told officially why, but we all know the real reason.
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post #16 of 42
6/4/08 at 11:42am
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OK, talked to Verizon today and found out its only $130 to cancel (they have implemented prorating) and it might actually be even less when the thing finally launches, so that's settled. I'll cancel that and ebay my Razor2. Just gotta find someone with the right USB cable to snarf all my contact info first.
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post #17 of 42
6/4/08 at 1:50pm

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Well if it comes out any time between the 5-15, I'll have to get it on the east coast as I'll be vacationing in Boston and NYC, coincidentally the location of the largest Apple stores in the U.S.
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post #18 of 42
6/4/08 at 8:01pm

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Hmmm, gonna be a busy month for Apple. Along with the 3G iPhone, there is much buzz about a revamping/rebranding of .Mac (to "Mobile Me"), and the next version of OS X, 10.6 or "Snow Leopard", is supposed to be seeded to developers at WWDC. Will Steve have time for all of that in next week's keynote, or will the new iPhone get bumped to a separate event later in the month??

Only thing for sure now is that Monday is going to be very interesting.
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post #19 of 42
6/4/08 at 8:28pm

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I didn't hear anything today, but will check again tomorrow.

On a positive note I am currently getting my first Mac up and running. I have turned into a complete Apple fanboy since I got my iPhone back in October.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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post #20 of 42
6/5/08 at 7:51am

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Originally Posted by Craig S
Hmmm, gonna be a busy month for Apple. Along with the 3G iPhone, there is much buzz about a revamping/rebranding of .Mac (to "Mobile Me"), and the next version of OS X, 10.6 or "Snow Leopard", is supposed to be seeded to developers at WWDC. Will Steve have time for all of that in next week's keynote, or will the new iPhone get bumped to a separate event later in the month??

Only thing for sure now is that Monday is going to be very interesting.

Of all the rumors going, Apple switching away from brand strength .mac to .me sounds a little goofy. Why would they ditch Mac. I can see some added service.

Every year the tablet talk pops up as well. This year it's touch screen tablet. Is the iPhone not that device sans software?
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post #21 of 42
6/5/08 at 7:59am

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Originally Posted by Craig S
Hmmm, gonna be a busy month for Apple. Along with the 3G iPhone, there is much buzz about a revamping/rebranding of .Mac (to "Mobile Me"), and the next version of OS X, 10.6 or "Snow Leopard", is supposed to be seeded to developers at WWDC. Will Steve have time for all of that in next week's keynote, or will the new iPhone get bumped to a separate event later in the month??

Only thing for sure now is that Monday is going to be very interesting.
The Snow Leopard rumors are interesting. Taken at face value, it seems odd that a full step forward, from 10.5 to 10.6, would be nothing but stability improvements. I'd like to see bugs vanquished and stability improved -- I find the Mac no more stable than WinXP.

But making users pay solely to have things work the way they're supposed to work is bad mojo. I've already paid for a product, Leopard, that is supposed to work. Expecting me to pay twice, once for cool features, and then for cool features that actually work properly, doesn't sit well.

I'm looking forward to seeing what develops for 10.6.
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post #22 of 42
6/5/08 at 10:20am
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I have a theory on why I think 10.6 will be day and date for next week, tho it scares me a bit: HDCP. Apple is way behind supporting BluRay disks and HDMI. Everyone expects a huge new selection of product refreshes, but if these are to contain either or both of these features they will have to support HDCP from the OS on up. Delivering stability, security and High Def all rolled into one. OSX does not support HDCP in any form at this time.
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post #23 of 42
6/5/08 at 11:00am

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On a positive note I am currently getting my first Mac up and running.

Jonathan, congrats! Please abuse this forum by asking us any
questions you may have. I am confident you will not miss your
PC anytime soon.
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post #24 of 42
6/5/08 at 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Jonathan, congrats! Please abuse this forum by asking us any
questions you may have. I am confident you will not miss your
PC anytime soon.

I spent most of last night and today getting all of my stuff moved off my pc to my Mac. The only thing I can't move is DVD Profiler since it's not Mac supported.
I know I can use Bootcamp or Parallels but I hate to put Windows on this beautiful machine.
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post #25 of 42
6/5/08 at 1:24pm
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It's worth it. It really is.
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post #26 of 42
6/5/08 at 1:58pm

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post #27 of 42
6/5/08 at 4:32pm

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Originally Posted by DaveF
The Snow Leopard rumors are interesting. Taken at face value, it seems odd that a full step forward, from 10.5 to 10.6, would be nothing but stability improvements. I'd like to see bugs vanquished and stability improved -- I find the Mac no more stable than WinXP.

But making users pay solely to have things work the way they're supposed to work is bad mojo. I've already paid for a product, Leopard, that is supposed to work. Expecting me to pay twice, once for cool features, and then for cool features that actually work properly, doesn't sit well.

I'm looking forward to seeing what develops for 10.6.
What I'm hearing is that Snow Leopard is more than just a security/stability release. It's a transition release. Supposedly it will be Intel-only, all 64-bit, and there are also rumors that it will be all-Cocoa - the old Carbon APIs are being left behind. If this last is true, it affects a lot of important apps. Apple's own pro apps are Carbon (I believe), as well as Microsoft Office and Adobe's CS3 suite (although Adobe has already said CS4 will be Cocoa).

This sounds like Apple has decided to ditch all the legacy code which is no doubt contributing to the problems with the OS and go forward into the future with a clean 64-bit Intel baseline. My belief is that Leopard and Snow Leopard will exist in parallel, much like the regular & 64-bit versions of XP/Vista do (the name is no coincidence). I'm guessing that Steve will announce the Apple pro apps will be "Cocoa-fied" by the time Snow Leopard is released in 2009. There will be a transition period during which developers will be encouraged to write to the new base. Users who have shed themselves of PowerPC hardware and Carbon apps will be able to step up to Snow Leopard (likely for less than the normal $129 upgrade fee), otherwise you can stick with Leopard and not feel like you're missing out on snazzy new features. The break will be complete sometime in 2010, when 10.7 (or maybe they leap to 11?) arrives as a more tranditional Apple OS release with new features, etc., but will be 64-bit Intel Cocoa only.

Most of the above is complete speculation on my part, but it really makes sense to me. Apple is nearing the end of a pretty painless transition to Intel hardware; now it looks like they're ready to take us into the 64-bit future the same way. We should find out on Monday.
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post #28 of 42
6/5/08 at 4:43pm

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten
It's worth it. It really is.

The problem is I don't have a copy of XP to install on the Mac. I wish there was a way to move my copy off of my pc to my Mac.
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post #29 of 42
6/5/08 at 8:06pm

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Originally Posted by Craig S
What I'm hearing is that Snow Leopard is more than just a security/stability release. It's a transition release. Supposedly it will be Intel-only, all 64-bit, and there are also rumors that it will be all-Cocoa - the old Carbon APIs are being left behind.
I've heard the same. But as a user, I don't care. Not unless must-have applications are released that then require this new environment. But on its own, there's no value. Certainly not $129 worth.

But we'll see. Apple's not had significant missteps lately, so they'll do something sensible with 10.6 It'll be worth the money in some manner.

Well, the one upgrade I wish for the most is VIDEO_TS playback on AppleTV. If that were available, I'd buy an AppleTV and a 1TB drive the next day, build my media center, and get all these DVDs and CDs out of the living room.
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post #30 of 42
6/6/08 at 6:45am

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Originally Posted by DaveF
I've heard the same. But as a user, I don't care. Not unless must-have applications are released that then require this new environment. But on its own, there's no value. Certainly not $129 worth.
Oh, agreed. If there's no reason to upgrade, don't (relatively few users have bought the 64-bit version of Windows).
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