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post #31 of 58
5/12/09 at 5:23pm

Re: ITV (UK) Blu-ray-titles coming (e.g. "The Boys from Brazil", "Great Expectations")

I got The Ipcress File this week. It doesn't look DNR'ed to death. There's plenty of natural looking grain. The audio was suprisinlgy good for a mid-60's film. I also got Zulu but that's a Paramount U.K. title....
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post #32 of 58
5/21/09 at 3:57am

Re: ITV (UK) Blu-ray-titles coming (e.g. "The Boys from Brazil", "Great Expectations")

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Originally Posted by Danny_N
ITV will release Powell and Pressburger's The Red Shoes on June 29 in the UK.

But only, it seems, as a HMV exclusive; the new restoration sounds blissful.
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post #33 of 58
5/26/09 at 4:08pm

Re: ITV (UK) Blu-ray-titles coming (e.g. "The Boys from Brazil", "Great Expectations")

I preordered The Red Shoes from Amazonia U.K. Well, that didn't last long. They just notified me that the BD was canceled.
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post #34 of 58
5/27/09 at 4:44am

Re: ITV (UK) Blu-ray-titles coming (e.g. "The Boys from Brazil", "Great Expectations")

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Originally Posted by Rachael B
They just notified me that the BD was canceled.
The BD is coming, but it's only availabble from HMV, so amazon had to cancel your order.
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post #35 of 58
5/27/09 at 9:31am

Re: ITV (UK) Blu-ray-titles coming (e.g. "The Boys from Brazil", "Great Expectations")

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Originally Posted by ChristianLiemke
The BD is coming, but it's only availabble from HMV, so amazon had to cancel your order.

Aye, I found it on HMV's site, which I've never ordered from before. Amazon's e-mail implied that the disc was outright canceled. Thanks for the tip!
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post #36 of 58
8/8/09 at 3:59pm
Olivier's Hamlet and the recently restored Henry V (which should look fabulous), plus Hitchcock's The 39 Steps and the remake of All Quiet on The Western Front are being released on October 12th by ITV DVD.
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post #37 of 58
8/8/09 at 4:53pm
 A little more info might be pleasant - like region-free or locked or a link.
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post #38 of 58
8/8/09 at 9:09pm


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Originally Posted by BillyFeldman View Post

 A little more info might be pleasant - like region-free or locked or a link.

Well, none have been Wee-jun locked so far. Great Expectations did have PAL extras. Most of their BD's have had no extras or  just a trailer anyway. I don't think iTV will lock unless forced to by somebody like, say, Fox or Disney.
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post #39 of 58
8/9/09 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by BillyFeldman View Post

 A little more info might be pleasant - like region-free or locked or a link.

It would be pleasant, but there simply is no more information. There is no news on region coding at this stage, but you'll find these available for pre-ordering at several UK etailers including Amazon.co.uk
Edited by John Hodson - 8/9/2009 at 12:25 pm GMT
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post #40 of 58
8/9/09 at 9:20am
 I don't think that's quite accurate - I got some Brit film (David Lean, I think) that was locked - I can't remember which film, since I got rid of it, but it was definitely Brit, definitely late 40s/early 50s, and definitely locked.  I have all the ITV region-frees and was surprised by it.
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post #41 of 58
8/9/09 at 9:26am
I assume you're addressing Racheal B, but Brief Encounter has been reported as being locked to Region B hasn't it?
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post #42 of 58
8/9/09 at 9:56am


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I assume you're addressing Racheal B, but Brief Encounter has been reported as being locked to Region B hasn't it?

I don't have that one. Since this thread began, I got a Momitsu deck and have quit worrying about what's locked to locales.  My next U.K. BD is likely gonna be The Dam Busters. I don't know if it'll be safety-pinned....

Hollywoodland and Sexy Beast are U.K. releases that I can confirm are locked from the A's.

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post #43 of 58
8/9/09 at 12:11pm
Yes, that's what it was - Brief Encounter - it's definitely locked to B.

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I assume you're addressing Racheal B, but Brief Encounter has been reported as being locked to Region B hasn't it?


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post #44 of 58
8/10/09 at 1:14am
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PAL/NTSC is no longer applicable to Blu-ray, so anything like a PAL speed-up cannot be there.

 

Not entirely true.  An HD master can still be mastered at 25 fps rather than 24 fps.  This happened, for example, on the UK Blu-ray edition of 'The Three Burials Of Melquiades Estrada', which was released by Optimum in a 1080i transfer running at the wrong speed. So people still need to be careful with BD releases in Europe based on masters created in Europe.  Unfortunately, there is still a 50Hz mentality in Europe that occasionally transfers over to HD.

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post #45 of 58
8/10/09 at 2:20am


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Unfortunately, there is still a 50Hz mentality in Europe that occasionally transfers over to HD.

 



Guess what? We still haven't changed our power supplies! So it's still 240V/50Hz indeed! 
What a mentality!


And, BTW, your BD-player will probably output 50fps fine. It's in the specs.


Cees
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post #46 of 58
8/10/09 at 9:12am


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Guess what? We still haven't changed our power supplies! So it's still 240V/50Hz indeed! 
What a mentality!


And, BTW, your BD-player will probably output 50fps fine. It's in the specs.


Cees
 
I'm not sure what your point is.  I'm in the UK so I'm well aware of the European power supply standard.

And I know my BD player can output a 50i transfer (not 50fps I hope - that would be more like the Keystone Cops).  That's hardly the issue - the issue is that a film transferred at 50i is not being played back at the correct speed.
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post #47 of 58
8/10/09 at 10:08am
My (benign) point was your use of the word "50Hz mentality". The 50 fps choice was made because of the power supply frequency (just like the NTSC 60 fps was dictated by the 60Hz PS in the US.)

It's not "a mentality", it's directly related to the needs of the original TV technology, which still exist of course in many instances of TV- and monitor equipment.

And there are hardly any films on BD output in 50 fps. If you see a 50 fps BD, it's almost always a TV show, or something else that was recorded that way in the first place.

So I haven't seen any film yet on a European BD displayed at an incorrect speed.
Perhaps there is one, but then I missed it.


Cees
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post #48 of 58
8/10/09 at 11:05am


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Originally Posted by Cees Alons View Post

And there are hardly any films on BD output in 50 fps. If you see a 50 fps BD, it's almost always a TV show, or something else that was recorded that way in the first place.

So I haven't seen any film yet on a European BD displayed at an incorrect speed.
Perhaps there is one, but then I missed it.


Cees

As I pointed out before, I certainly hope there are no films on BD output at 50 fps!!  I think you meant 25 fps.  Well I quoted one example of a 25 fps BD in my earlier post.  The UK BD of the film "The Three Burials Of Melquiades Estrada" is encoded at 50i and therefore plays back at the wrong speed, i.e. 25 fps.
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post #49 of 58
8/12/09 at 3:01am


Yes, I meant half-frames to keep the relation to the 50Hz we were discussing.
But you're right of course: that would be 25 fps (film frames).

I happen to have the US SDVD version of The Three Burials... so I didn't experience that problem.
As far as I know, there's no US Blu-ray version of the film, possible meaning they had to do it theirselves (getting a 4k scan, I mean). Or perhaps (hopefully, hopefully) it's only a wrong number on the back of the case. Wouldn't be the first time.

If it is true: TSBT (that sucks big time).


Cees
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post #50 of 58
8/12/09 at 10:31am

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Originally Posted by Cees Alons View Post



Yes, I meant half-frames to keep the relation to the 50Hz we were discussing.
But you're right of course: that would be 25 fps (film frames).

I happen to have the US SDVD version of The Three Burials... so I didn't experience that problem.
As far as I know, there's no US Blu-ray version of the film, possible meaning they had to do it theirselves (getting a 4k scan, I mean). Or perhaps (hopefully, hopefully) it's only a wrong number on the back of the case. Wouldn't be the first time.

If it is true: TSBT (that sucks big time).


Cees

It's definitely true, Cees - I actually bought the UK Blu-ray, not realising that it was encoded at 50i, and I checked the running time of the film which was indeed 4% shorter than it should have been.  Needless to say, I've sold it since then.

I also have the US DVD so I'll be hanging on to it until the film gets proper Blu-ray treatment, hopefully from Sony in the US.

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post #51 of 58
8/28/09 at 4:39am
DVD Times has details on those upcoming ITV DVD BDs here; blimey, extras for Henry V and The 39 Steps.
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post #52 of 58
10/23/09 at 3:10pm
Screenshots of Henry V here; Christian notes that there appears to be some kind of filter in effect, which gives the picture a waxy, or posterized look, in the first 29 minutes. Thereafter the picture is very good, but coming on top of The 39 Steps, it's a little disappointing. Note it has the Criterion commentary.

Click on the images to view them full size.


Edited by John Hodson - 10/23/09 at 3:47pm
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post #53 of 58
10/23/09 at 9:53pm
 I don't believe in this waxy buildup stuff - and those caps are very encouraging, although I always take them with a large grain of salt.  But the color is so much improved that I just ordered it and Hamlet.  And I haven't even got my multi-region player yet because hkflix has been out of them and won't be getting them back until end of this month.  
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post #54 of 58
10/27/09 at 2:39pm
Well, from the Beaver screenshots, Hamlet; it looks magnificent.
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post #55 of 58
10/29/09 at 1:54pm
Curiouser and curiouser; The Beaver doesn't mention any filter problems in his review of Henry V.
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post #56 of 58
10/29/09 at 5:05pm
 And what's even curiouser (and curiouser) is that the Beaver's screencaps look nothing like that German fellow's screencaps.  I have the Blu-Ray of both Hamlet and Henry V - now only if hkflix would get the Momitsus back in stock I might actually be able to watch them.
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post #57 of 58
10/30/09 at 7:26am

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Curiouser and curiouser; The Beaver doesn't mention any filter problems in his review of Henry V.


They didn't mentioned it, but look at this screenshot. It's filtered to death.
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post #58 of 58
10/30/09 at 7:33am


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Originally Posted by BillyFeldman View Post

 And what's even curiouser (and curiouser) is that the Beaver's screencaps look nothing like that German fellow's screencaps.  I have the Blu-Ray of both Hamlet and Henry V - now only if hkflix would get the Momitsus back in stock I might actually be able to watch them.
It's not curious because most of DVDBeaver's screenshots were made from scenes after the 29 minutes mark. It's that simple. Believe me, I'm the German fellow who made the screenshots, I watched it on my TV and with three different software players on my computer. They used DNR during the first 29 minutes to a horrible degree.

Regarding the color of the DVDBeaver screenshots: I think that they used the wrong color matrix again during RGB conversion. I used YCbCr specification ITU-R BT.709 for the Blu-ray screenshots. It seems that DVDBeaver used ITU-R BT.601 but that's the one for DVDs.
Look at my screenshot and this one from DVDBeaver. They're not the same frame, but the color (e.g. face) looks different.


Edited by ChristianLiemke - 10/30/09 at 8:38am
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