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post #481 of 1032
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If that is the case, then yes you are probably right. I hadn't heard that.

Hopefully that doesn't decrease the chances of a Stagecoach BD....
post #482 of 1032
I say we get:
AK100
Che DVD/Bluray
Gimme Shelter Bluray
Stagecoach DVD

outside chance:
Cronos DVD/Bluray (I think this'll be a first week of January release)

I thoroughly expect them to go DVD only on Stagecoach which causes everyone else to go, WTF was the goddamned point of releasing it then?
post #483 of 1032
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Originally Posted by Adam_S View Post

I thoroughly expect them to go DVD only on Stagecoach which causes everyone else to go, WTF was the goddamned point of releasing it then?
Indeed.

Worst. Christmas Gift. Ever.
post #484 of 1032
Thread Starter 
No titles announced yet, but this was on the Criterion Facebook:

"Person: is putting in a plug for the upcoming Stagecoach disc to be offered in Blu-ray. I know that economics dictate that you can't release everything in Blu, but c'mon...it's STAGECOACH!"

CC: You said it!"



Also, someone asked about Fellini on Blu, and they said they plan to annonce at least one of his titles for BD in a month or so. As a betting man, one has to think 8½ or Amarcord. Most likely 8½ to cross promote with the new film Nine.
Edited by Brandon Conway - 9/15/09 at 2:12pm
post #485 of 1032
I was hoping against a BD release right now to save me a bit of cash. However, this means me hunting down a multi-region BD player. Oh, well as the man said, it's Stagecoach.
post #486 of 1032
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You can always buy it a few months after it's released, you know.

(I just got around to picking up The Seventh Seal this week).
post #487 of 1032

"A Christmas Tale" is finally being given a blu-ray release in December!

CC

post #488 of 1032
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This is a good sign. To add a Blu-ray to the schedule when it had not been originally announced with one must mean that BDs are doing well for them. That's more releases in the October-December 1st schedule with Blu-ray (5 - Wings of Desire, Monsoon Wedding, Howard's End, A Christmas Tale, Gomorrah) than without (3 - Z, Downhill Racer, Golden Age of Television).
post #489 of 1032
I'd be really excited if they were adding Z to the bluray schedule as well. 
post #490 of 1032
Thread Starter 
As would I, but I think that's fairly unlikely at this point since it streets in 6 weeks.
post #491 of 1032
However, now that all of October's releases have been pushed into November according to Criterion's site, we have 4 titles for November and none in October.

CC
post #492 of 1032
Monsoon Wedding is coming out October 20.
post #493 of 1032
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Originally Posted by Jesse Blacklow View Post

Monsoon Wedding is coming out October 20.
 

Not according to Criterion's site now.  Monsoon Wedding now has a release date of November 20th.  All October titles have been pushed into November.

EDIT:  Thinking about it, though, the date of November 20th doesn't fall on a Tuesday, obviously, Criterion could have accidentally put in November instead of October.

CC
Edited by ccfixx - 9/16/09 at 3:42pm
post #494 of 1032
well the two SD releases have not been pushed, the Eclipse and Z.  I wonder if it has to due with Bluray replication or check discs that didn't pass muster and the general QC process. 
post #495 of 1032
"Gimme Shelter" is listed on the site now for Dec. 1st.

CC
post #496 of 1032
Thread Starter 
I'm betting it has to do with BD replication lines being slammed for the next 8-10 weeks.

The December titles (aside from the BD upgrade to Gimme Shelter) might be late in getting announced for this very reason. The date they had planned only a few days ago may have been pushed.
post #497 of 1032
Here's a quick Criterion-related question, perhaps you guys can help me, I'm just thinking of getting a region free player, so I can indulge in Region A (i'm from Australia) Criterion titles.

They're all priced at $25 at the moment. As far as I've heard they're all top shelf releases, but are there any you guys prize over the others?

I'm tossing up between The Third Man (which I've seen and love) and Chungking express and Pierrot le Fou (both of which i've never seen, but thinking of blind buying)

What do you peoples think my first puchase should be?
post #498 of 1032
 Criterion explains the release delays here:

Quote:
Due to delays in manufacturing our custom Blu-ray cases, we’ve been forced to move the street dates for several titles.

Monsoon Wedding (DVD and Blu-ray editions)
Original release date: 10/13/09
New release date: 10/20/09

Wings of Desire (DVD and Blu-ray editions)
Old street: 10/20/09
New street: 11/3/09

Howards End (Blu-ray edition)
Old street: 10/20/09
New street: 11/3/09

We are also moving the DVD edition of A Christmas Tale down from November to December in order to add a Blu-ray edition; both will street on the same day.

A Christmas Tale (DVD and Blu-ray editions)
Original release date: 11/10/09
New release date: 12/01/09

So the November 20 date on the Monsoon Wedding page does appear to be a mistake, just as Chris surmised.
post #499 of 1032

Delete.


Edited by Ben Cheshire - 9/16/09 at 9:44pm
post #500 of 1032
Ben, you might want to wait on The Third Man and Chungking Express because both are in the flimsy digipaks that Criterion used on their first 8 or so releases and Criterion has said that they are going to be offering them in the clear keepcases that they now use, but they've not given a date as to when the new keepcase versions will be available. 

Now, if the packaging doesn't matter, I'd say you should go with The Third Man.  It looks great and is packed with quality supplemental material.  I love Chungking Express, but the disc only has a few extras and while I think the transfer is great, in that it is accurate to the source material, it can be seen as disappointing to people who aren't familiar with the film or WKW's style.  I haven't seen Pierrot le Fou, so I can't comment on the Blu-Ray.

post #501 of 1032

Thanks Derrick. You should see the new Studio Canal Collection digipacks... These Criterion ones look very sturdy by comparison! At least CC gave you a dome for disc storage; these Studio Canal ones have a cardboard hole that the disc slips into; like, as if I want to pay prestige prices for a classic disc, and then risk it getting scratched just to take it in and out... Sheesh.

Here's a case question, though. Do we assume that Criterion will be issuing all forthcoming titles in blu amaray; will it be safe to pre-order Pierrot without worrying I'll be buying a digipack?


Edited by Ben Cheshire - 9/16/09 at 9:50pm
post #502 of 1032
 Pierrot Le Fou is in the clear style keep case like Playtime. 

You can look at the packaging here. 

http://www.criterionforum.org/DVD-packaging/pierrot-le-fou-blu-ray/the-criterion-collection/606
post #503 of 1032
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Originally Posted by Ben Cheshire View Post

Thanks Derrick. You should see the new Studio Canal Collection digipacks... These Criterion ones look very sturdy by comparison! At least CC gave you a dome for disc storage; these Studio Canal ones have a cardboard hole that the disc slips into; like, as if I want to pay prestige prices for a classic disc, and then risk it getting scratched just to take it in and out... Sheesh.

Here's a case question, though. Do we assume that Criterion will be issuing all forthcoming titles in blu amaray; will it be safe to pre-order Pierrot without worrying I'll be buying a digipack?

 


From what I understand, this is Criterion's new standard packaging. They intend to offer this style replacement case for all previously released BD titles in the very near future...for purchase, of course. Kagemusha is also in this style case.
post #504 of 1032
 Before I bother with emailing Criterion, does anybody know with which title the new case design started? I'd like to avoid purchasing as many replacement cases as possible. 
post #505 of 1032
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Originally Posted by Powell&Pressburger View Post
 Pierrot Le Fou... You can look at the packaging here. 
http://www.criterionforum.org/DVD-packaging/pierrot-le-fou-blu-ray/the-criterion-collection/606
 

Oh my! Criterion make such classy products it makes me drool (sic?) Definitely blind buying this.
post #506 of 1032
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Wilkins View Post

 Before I bother with emailing Criterion, does anybody know with which title the new case design started? I'd like to avoid purchasing as many replacement cases as possible. 

Cardboard cases:

The 400 Blows
The Third Man
The Man Who Fell to Earth
The Last Emperor
Bottle Rocket
Chungking Express
El Norte
The Last Metro
Last Year at Marienbad

Regular Blu-ray packaging:

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

Newer clear case:

The Seventh Seal
The Wages of Fear
For All Mankind
Playtime
The Complete Monterey Pop Festival (2 cases)
Kagemusha
Pierrot le fou
In the Realm of the Senses
Repulsion

All releases going forward will presumably be with the new clear cases.
post #507 of 1032
 Thanks, Brandon. You are a fount of useful info.
post #508 of 1032
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From a recent post on the Criterion Facebook page (which is surprisingly, and refeshingly, candid for the company more often than not):

"We'll get to more Truffaut over time. As for Blu-rays, they're really starting to catch on. We know how important the format is to the many early adopters in our audience, and we'd like to do more going forward, but because of our limited capacity, we're always going to have to make choices. We would have loved to make the Kurosawa set available in both DVD and Blu-ray formats, but as a small, independent company, we had to be honest with ourselves and admit that we don't have the capacity to make a worthy 25-Blu-ray set, at least not without bringing all other Criterion production, and with it our mission, to a grinding halt. Making good Blu-rays turns out to be an inordinately labor- and time-intensive undertaking, and we are already struggling to bring our Blu-ray capacity up from one or two releases a month to three or four. At this stage of the game, given the care we insist on, a good 25 Blu-ray set was just out of the question."

So, good news going forward as they look to increase their BD output, even if it they struggle to do so, and isn't every release.
post #509 of 1032
There's so many great Criterion DVD's. I can't wait to see Belle and the Bete, Brazil, Written on the Wind, My Man Godfrey, 8 1/2, Regle du Jeu, Battle of Algiers, Heaven Can Wait, Pandora's Box, If..., Breathless, Days of Heaven, Vampyr, all Max Ophuls, and Melville, and Archers!!! I'd say their criterion must be pretty good.

However, there have been lapses. Ahem Beastie Boys. Ahem Michael Bay (2 entries wtf?)
post #510 of 1032
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Originally Posted by Brandon Conway View Post

From a recent post on the Criterion Facebook page (which is surprisingly, and refeshingly, candid for the company more often than not):

"We'll get to more Truffaut over time. As for Blu-rays, they're really starting to catch on. We know how important the format is to the many early adopters in our audience, and we'd like to do more going forward, but because of our limited capacity, we're always going to have to make choices. We would have loved to make the Kurosawa set available in both DVD and Blu-ray formats, but as a small, independent company, we had to be honest with ourselves and admit that we don't have the capacity to make a worthy 25-Blu-ray set, at least not without bringing all other Criterion production, and with it our mission, to a grinding halt. Making good Blu-rays turns out to be an inordinately labor- and time-intensive undertaking, and we are already struggling to bring our Blu-ray capacity up from one or two releases a month to three or four. At this stage of the game, given the care we insist on, a good 25 Blu-ray set was just out of the question."

So, good news going forward as they look to increase their BD output, even if it they struggle to do so, and isn't every release.

They later indicated that The Leopard is slated for bluray on their facebook page, but not time frame was given so it could be years til they get to that.  I am glad they're trying to increase blus to three or four, and it would seem to explain why they've had months where only one or two titles come out.
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