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post #151 of 158
8/19/08 at 5:59am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

The Beaver has a page for Cimarron
(I much prefer the older version myself...)
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post #152 of 158
8/19/08 at 6:26am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

As much as all films should be seen in their original aspect ratios, "Stalking Moon" really needs to be seen in its 2.4:1 Panavision ratio. I think one of the reasons that some people have seen it on video and not liked it as much as they remembered in theaters is that the panning and scanning really messes up the film, even moreso than with most films of the era. The space between and around the characters is extremely important, whether making them seem exposed in the first half of the film in the wide open Arizona desert, or making the audience sense the potential for menace behind every rock, hill, and tree in the mountainous New Mexico setting of the second half of the film.

Agreed that Escape from Fort Bravo looks pretty terrible, which is about par for the course when you see the "Anscocolor" name. In terms of the video presentation, I got the sense that they likely had to put a lot of hard work into it to get it to look as passable as it does. Heavy grain turns to massively heavy grain during opticals, but the color timing remains steady. The whole palette seems to want to tilt towards magenta, but they manage to hold it off for most of the presentation. Contrast is very high, but they manage to eek enough detail out of dark areas of the screen for it to work, etc. It appears slightly over-matted at a 1.78:1 aspect ratio.

Regards,
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post #153 of 158
8/19/08 at 9:38am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

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Originally Posted by Ken_McAlinden
Agreed that Escape from Fort Bravo looks pretty terrible, which is about par for the course when you see the "Anscocolor" name. In terms of the video presentation, I got the sense that they likely had to put a lot of hard work into it to get it to look as passable as it does. Heavy grain turns to massively heavy grain during opticals, but the color timing remains steady. The whole palette seems to want to tilt towards magenta, but they manage to hold it off for most of the presentation. Contrast is very high, but they manage to eek enough detail out of dark areas of the screen for it to work, etc. It appears slightly over-matted at a 1.78:1 aspect ratio.

Regards,
Yeah, I remember other "Anscocolor" films like "Men of the Fighting Lady" and even "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" not having vivid coloring to them.

In regard to the aspect ratio being over-matted at 1.78:1, I was under the impression that "Escape from Fort Bravo" was filmed in 1.66:1 ratio?
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post #154 of 158
8/19/08 at 9:54am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
...In regard to the aspect ratio being over-matted at 1.78:1, I was under the impression that "Escape from Fort Bravo" was filmed in 1.66:1 ratio?
Watching the DVD matted to 1.78:1, you will continue to be under that impression. I am watching via an LCD projector and things still look a little tight - even with zero overscan.

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post #155 of 158
8/21/08 at 6:44am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

Let's show a little love for the Flynn westerns, DVDBeaver has the lowdown...

Greatly looking forward to these
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post #156 of 158
8/24/08 at 11:51am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

I noticed that a local independent store has the Ultimate Edition SD dvd for sale of How The West Was Won but unfortunately I will be going with the Bluray version. Guess I will have to wait a bit longer!
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post #157 of 158
8/25/08 at 10:53am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

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Originally Posted by CinéKarine
Let's show a little love for the Flynn westerns, DVDBeaver has the lowdown...

Greatly looking forward to these
I have watched three of four and am impressed so far. My review might not be done until the end of the week, though. I am still furiously typing up my Western Classics Collection review. All of those look very good except for "Escape from Fort Bravo" which was discussed above. "Cimarron" suffers from some edge ringing that is distracting during brightly lit exteriors.

Regards,
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post #158 of 158
8/27/08 at 8:00am

Re: How The West Was Won, Errol Flynn, Warner Westerns - 26/08/08

The Flynn set is currently #81 in sales ranking for ALL Movies and TV DVDs on Amazon.com. Very happy about this!
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