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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
...And with the surfing episode, I'm out.

As am I Adam. That episode was painful to watch. Thinking back to Devon & Bonnie makes me want to take a blow torch to this version.
post #62 of 118

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Although I'm sure it'll be cancelled by Christmas, I have to say I do really kind of enjoy this show. It's just pure escapism (while they're obviously trying to build some sort of "mythology" - the whole issue of Mike's memory being altered/wiped/etc...) that doesn't take it self too seriously. The tech-guy (Billy?) even said something like "I'd rather be in the KITT-cave than out in the field". They're not trying to be "The Sopranos" or even "CSI" here .... just trying to be some mindless entertainment for an hour at a time.....

I'll be the first to admit that the actors shouldn't be holding their breaths until Emmy nominations come out (how many times can Sarah talk about how "she can do [fill in the blank] because of her training" ????) But there's lots of girls in bikinis and some pretty decent special effects for KITT, so it appeals to the 13-year old boy in me - at least enough to keep me watching for now.
post #63 of 118

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Originally Posted by Joe_H
Watched the second episode, to give it more of a chance.... and then promptly took it off my record list. The comments about it being aimed at 14 year old boys seem right on track, after they go to a Playboy mansion style party in the second episode I'm sure mainly just to show lots of girls in bikinis.

Well, yeah. But the original show didnt exactly skimp on the gratuitous tits either. It was a poorly acted, pretty vapid series - and the new one is living up to that legacy note for note.

Yeah it's goofy as hell, but at least it doesnt seem to take itself too seriously.

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Originally Posted by Tony Whalen
Could we get a little MORE cliche-ridden?

So I take it you've never seen the original, then. That's a laundry list of problems the first one had too.
post #64 of 118

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Originally Posted by Tony J Case
So I take it you've never seen the original, then. That's a laundry list of problems the first one had too.

Sure have Tony. Perhaps you missed my earlier message when I said I very nearly built my own 80s KITT.

As I said earlier, sure the original show was goofy and cheesy, but THIS cheese just is rancid and smelly. Plus, I'd have to say that if the original had the same cliches, perhaps they weren't as old and tired at that time.

Besides, the overabundance of boobs, the ridiculous LED-covered attack mode, and the whole team-in-the-KITT-cave thing really blows. Sorry, but at least the old show was mostly about Michael and KITT.

Meantime, I watched the surf episode, and promptly deleted the next episode AND the timer from my PVR.

I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to most things Knight Rider... but they really blew it.
post #65 of 118

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I just read a report on Trekmovie.com in the news section regarding Hasselhoff. If anyone's interested.....

He had gone to NBC to pitch Knight Rider where he'd have a guest role coming back to play the father or some such thing. But he and NBC had a difference for the direction of the show to take, so he decided to part ways. He does wish them well and likes the cast. He does agree that the show is not the same as the old show. It's a different take on the idea. Here's a link to the original source article from BuddyTV.com story:
David Hasselhoff Won't Be on 'Knight Rider'

The trekmovie article says the show is doing average ratings, not great. After the TV movie/pilot, I was expecting or at least had the impression that Hasselhoff would come back for guest shots.
post #66 of 118

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Originally Posted by Tony Whalen
Sure have Tony. Perhaps you missed my earlier message when I said I very nearly built my own 80s KITT.

I guess my expectations are lower than yours then - the original wasn't any great work of art. Dont get me wrong, it was fun and I love it to pieces, but it's as big, loud, dumb and goofy as the new one is.

Of course I havent seen last weeks yet, I've been playing catch up over my lunches and didnt know the show was on the air until a couple of days ago. I'll get back to you when I get through the surfing episode. (And if the surfing episode doesnt involve KITT driving on Water, I'm going to be seriously annoyed!)
post #67 of 118

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Originally Posted by Nelson Au
I just read a report on Trekmovie.com in the news section regarding Hasselhoff. If anyone's interested.....

He had gone to NBC to pitch Knight Rider where he'd have a guest role coming back to play the father or some such thing. But he and NBC had a difference for the direction of the show to take, so he decided to part ways. He does wish them well and likes the cast. He does agree that the show is not the same as the old show. It's a different take on the idea. Here's a link to the original source article from BuddyTV.com story:
David Hasselhoff Won't Be on 'Knight Rider'

The trekmovie article says the show is doing average ratings, not great. After the TV movie/pilot, I was expecting or at least had the impression that Hasselhoff would come back for guest shots.
Nelson,

I would have loved to have seen Hasselhoff make a few appearances. Even more than this, I would have liked to have had him been a regular in the show. Too bad his idea for the show wasn't implemented.
post #68 of 118
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Re: Knight Rider - Season 1 (Wednesdays this Fall)

I'm just glad Hasselhoff's reputation won't be sullied by this.
post #69 of 118

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Well, that's show business!
post #70 of 118

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Originally Posted by Tony J Case
Dont get me wrong, it was fun and I love it to pieces, but it's as big, loud, dumb and goofy as the new one is.

Like I said, the old one is just as cheesy. I just think THIS cheese is stinky. (Plus I'd argue that this show is just a wee bit...well... dumber.)
post #71 of 118

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Ok, that one was pretty good - sure the plot was Stock Story #23, but it moved along nicely.

So what - am I the only one left watching it?
post #72 of 118

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Was it on last night? I thought it might have been preempted by the debate. And I forgot.
post #73 of 118

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I'm still watching, Tony.

Entertaining episode, a bit of a riff on DOA but still fun.

I'll never tire of Sarah and those outfits of hers.
post #74 of 118

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Originally Posted by Tony J Case
So what - am I the only one left watching it?
Tony,

I am still watching it, and will continue to do so. I'm just a couple of episodes behind because of the Official 9th Annual HTF October Scary Movie Challenge. Since I've already watched my Halloween film for the day, I'm actually going to watch last week's episode tonight, and maybe last night's episode as well.

Addendum: Okay, I watched the two episodes tonight. The 'surfing' episode was okay by me. I thought one of the brightest parts of the episode was Zoey's lines. She's becoming a favorite of mine. (N.B.: I really liked K.I.T.T. mimicking her 'I got it' lines. ) I also liked the undercover names (Devon and Bonnie); things like that are a nice touch in my book. The K-17 technology was a fun storyline as well. It was neat seeing the shock on the faces of those at the control center when they realized that their technology had somehow been stolen. And in that light, I liked having K.I.T.T. be a bit vulnerable for some of the episode (e.g., the four weapons fired at his screens may have rendered the vehicle inoperable).

The second episode was a bit better, IMO. I thought the angle of Michael dying was great. But I thought the 'baddies' took a huge risk in making him hallucinate (and not function very well at all); after all, they wanted him to complete their mission, and fooling with his faculties was IMO a strange way to ensure he would complete their mission. And in the spirit of La Femme Nikita (the episode Third Party Rip-Off comes to mind), I really like it when an additional party comes in (or is hinted at arriving) and mucks up the mix a bit. I think it adds a lot of neat (or at the least, 'what could be') variables. BTW, I also liked the staged murder of the man. When Zoey whispered what she did in his ear, I realized it was a set-up.
post #75 of 118

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Just if people wondered... Knight Rider picked up for a full season run.

Breaking News - NBC TO PICK UP NINE ADDITIONAL EPISODES OF "KNIGHT RIDER" TO COMPLETE FULL-SEASON ORDER FOR 2008-09 | TheFutonCritic.com

This line kills me:

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The series is averaging a 2.4 rating, 7 share in adults 18-49 and 7.4 million viewers overall so far this season in "live plus same day" averages.

It's sad that a show like "Jericho" got almost double the ratings of this and couldn't find a home. Then again, it makes you wonder how bad the back bench is at NBC that a 7 share gets you a full season pickup.
post #76 of 118

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I quit trying to figure out the rationale behind these kinds of decisions long ago.

This is awesome news.
post #77 of 118

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Having just posted in the "Sarah Connor" thread, I have to smile at how 1-to-1 the difference of opinion is; posters who enjoy the new "Knight Rider" seem to despise "Sarah Connor" and posters who despise the new "Knight Rider" seem to enjoy "Sarah Connor." I kept to my word and stopped watching this one, so don't worry - no bitching from me! I just thought it was funny.
post #78 of 118

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Having just posted in the "Sarah Connor" thread, I have to smile at how 1-to-1 the difference of opinion is; posters who enjoy the new "Knight Rider" seem to despise "Sarah Connor" and posters who despise the new "Knight Rider" seem to enjoy "Sarah Connor." I kept to my word and stopped watching this one, so don't worry - no bitching from me! I just thought it was funny.

I noticed that, too lol.
post #79 of 118

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Yeah, it's intresting how the lines split like that. I think the reason why I'm enjoying this and really hating Terminator is that Knight Rider is living up to it's expectations. The original was a light, fluffy, braindead artifact of the eighties with straight foward plots, bad guys wearing black hats, hawt girls and really cool cars that drive really fast. The new one is no better or no worse than that, but with just slicker graphics and a new coat of paint.

Meanwhile Terminator - ok, the films werent exactly high art, but they were really good* and had some meat to them. The TV show pisses away all that potental with stupid plots, inconsistant continuity, moron logic and bad acting.

*Third one not withstanding

On a completely unrelated note: The hoff fears no pain!
post #80 of 118

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And thus we see the inherant superiority of Knight Rider over Terminator. Terminator isnt nearly cool enough to have a pretty big Torchwood running gag in one of their episodes. A little Time Traveling bisexual goes a long way. . . .
post #81 of 118

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A "reboot" this quickly..ouch.

"Knight Rider" changes gears, ejects stars - Yahoo! News
post #82 of 118

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I've recorded the last 4 episodes, but I have not watched them! So this retooling is a good idea going back to the original idea of a man and his car.

It's nice NBC believes in the show enough to want to push it too.
post #83 of 118

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A reboot of the reboot huh? This is great news but I still don't have high hopes for it getting any better. When they give me an action show with occasional humor (put the guys from My Own Worst Enemy in charge of the show) and not a campy show with bits of action, better writing and give KITT some frikin' personality then I'll be jumping for joy.
post #84 of 118

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I'm just pleased that Justin Bruening, Deanna Russo, and Smith Cho are staying. I liked Bruce Davison's character, so I will miss him. But had Smith Cho not returned, there would have been hell to pay.
post #85 of 118

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
I'm just pleased that Justin Bruening, Deanna Russo, and Smith Cho are staying. I liked Bruce Davison's character, so I will miss him. But had Smith Cho not returned, there would have been hell to pay.

I agree completely ... keep Deanna Russo and Smith Cho .... hell, they can get rid of KITT and just keep those two around! (well, OK, then it's an entirely different show, but probably something I'd still watch!)
post #86 of 118

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Originally Posted by Bryan Toth
I agree completely ... keep Deanna Russo and Smith Cho .... hell, they can get rid of KITT and just keep those two around!



I must say, I spent this past week in Pigeon Forge TN and went to a place called the 'Star Cars Museum', they had the original KITT there and after gawking at how cool he was in person, i'd like to formally lobby to get the old KITT back...













He was sweet looking up close, he even spoke in William Danials' voice which made my inner geek go insane.
post #87 of 118

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Nice KITT! I'd be interested to know if that was an on-screen KITT, or a replica. (I've seen some STUNNING replicas out there!) The lower/center console appears a bit off, and the buttons below the dual screens appear to be missing. That said, I'm nitpicking... it's a gorgeous KITT! WANT!

Well, I'm glad to hear about the reboot-of-the-reboot. The whole team-in-the-KITTCave thing was part of the problem I had with this show. If they go back closer to Michael and KITT being partners and helping out the "everyman", I'll give it a go again.

That all said, I haven't watched any episodes since I said I was out, and with some horror just read about the "reimagining" of KARR. I hope it wasn't as bad as it sounds. (Although I suspect it was pretty bad.) KARR was always a favorite.

I'm still not taking the KARR license plate off my Mustang. (It's sure getting some interesting looks of late!)
post #88 of 118

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I don't have much hope for the reboot if it will be much of a reboot at all. ( I gave up on this one 4 eps ago).

Get better scripts, better actors (to late there keeping the crap ones), get rid of CGI attack mode Kitt, make the driving sequences realstic without the superbad CGI backgrounds (Hell if they could do it in the 80s), get rid of the Sea Quest DSV cave, get William Daniels back as the voice of kitt, etc, etc.
post #89 of 118

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I watched last week's episode last night. This was Knight of the Living Dead (the Halloween episode). I thought that it was the best episode of the series to date. I loved the pranks, the mystery-angle of the episode, and especially the self-destruct (and back door) aspects of the story line. K.I.T.T. reminded me eerily of H.A.L. in this one (probably for good reason given his gradually increasing paranoia); it was also good to hear of K.A.R.R. again, which I remember fondly from the original series.

About half way through the episode, I thought it might be Zoe. But I couldn't figure out how it was going to play out, especially given what I've read on the 'reboot' link. Two things came to mind as I was trying to piece together who the shooter was: 1) the person had to be around 5'5" (until that was oddly rescinded in favor of 'new' data by Zoe which suggested a taller person--itself somewhat suspicious in my eyes); and 2) the fact that she was 'okay' (i.e., not shot or even hurt in any meaningful way). I couldn't figure out precisely what had happened to her. And another thing that was somewhat misleading (albeit intentionally) was that the voice that we continued to hear on the tape really sounded, at least to my ears, like Zoe's, and not the F.B.I. agent's, no matter how much they tried to convince us otherwise.

I thought it was a good, all-around entertaining episode for many reasons.
post #90 of 118

Knight Rider Undergoes Changes: David Hasselhoff Becomes Regular

It looks like the Knight Rider series is undergoing a massive reboot. The series, being ordered for a full season of 22 episodes has seen the departure of Bruce Davidson, Sydney Tamiia Poitier and Yancey Arias with the 13th episode and the remaining episodes of the first season:

"We're moving away from the terrorist-of-the-week formula and closer to the original, making it a show about a man and his car going out and helping more regular people, everymen."

The revamped "Knight" will kick off with the two-part Episodes 10-11. NBC is planning a major push, including possibly airing Episode 10 on Sunday after an NFL football game in January, with the conclusion airing the following Wednesday.

Such a move would bring "Knight" back to Sunday night, where the two-hour movie/backdoor pilot drew big ratings in February.

The series it spawned has been struggling in the Wednesday 8 p.m. slot, dropping last week to a season-low 5.1 million viewers and a 1.6 rating/4 share in adults 18-49.

The retooling had been put in motion long before the full-season order for "Knight" three weeks ago. The UMS/Dutch Oven series is now filming Episode 15.

There are no immediate plans to add new regulars to the show, which will focus on the five remaining characters: Mike (Justin Bruening), Sarah (Deanna Russo), Billy (Paul Campbell), Zoe (Smith Cho) and KITT. The producers also are looking to do stunt guest castings.

Aint it Cool News is also reporting that David Hasselhoff is returning to the series with the second season, bringing the new series back to the classic formula that made the original series popular in the eighties:

If There's A Second Season Of KNIGHT RIDER, Will The Hoff Return For Father/Son Adventures Of The Week?? -- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.
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