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The best, and worst studio for tv dvd releases

post #1 of 38
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Here are my picks:

THE BEST

1. CBS/Paramount-The absolute best. Nice packaging, low cost per set, and attractive case art.

2 Universal-They have proven themselves. When the chips were down, they continued the Airwolf releases, and going strong with Seaquest, Incredible Hulk, and Sliders.


IN BETWEEN

-Warner Brothers-A true puzzle. I can't get a read on these guys. They drop some titles cold turkey(Growing Pains) and release others on a slightly lengthy schedule.

THE WORST

1. Sony-Surprised? Didn't think so. Most 70's, and 80's titles have been abandoned for so long, most of us have given up hope.

2. Fox-Wow! Truly horrible. One and done. Classics like ST. Elsewhere, and Hill Street Blues abandoned? Absurd. Let anpther company release these great shows. License them out!!!
post #2 of 38

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I've raved about CBS-Paramount and how happy I am with their releases in other threads, they obviously get my number 1 vote.
And I too am fairly happy with Universal. Despite the fact they were one and done on titles I don't happen to collect, I collected a lot of shows that they either completed or are close to completing: Magnum PI, Rockford Files, Emergency!, A-Team, Knight Rider, Hardy Boys, The Office, 30 Rock, Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers and Galactica 1980.

Sony and Fox are huge disappointments, despite the releases of some very good shows. And I agree Warner Bros. is in the middle.
post #3 of 38

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I think your preference for studios will depend on what era(s) you collect. As a vintage collector (primarily -- but not exclusively -- pre-1970s), I’d rank the major studios as follows:

1.Paramount – simply put, no one comes even remotely close for vintage releases.
2.MGM – often overlooked because they’re a smaller studio but have done things like “The Addams Family,” “Flipper,” “Rat Patrol,” and “The Outer Limits” among a few others. They just don’t have the catalog that the other studios do, but they have neglected the ZIV catalog which includes classic shows like “Sea Hunt” and “Highway Patrol.”
3.Universal – actually not exceptionally good for vintage series, though they have done series like “Alfred Hitchcock Presents” and “The Munsters” but have abandoned series like “Adam-12” and “Dragnet.” What distinguishes Universal from some of the other studios is their willingness to license some of their older series to independents like Shout! Factory and the Timeless Media Group so we are seeing things like "Ironside" and "Laredo" among others.
4.Warner – I thought Warner was going to be a great company for vintage releases after they released all six seasons of “The Adventures of Superman” and both seasons of “F-Troop,” but they’ve really dropped the ball on their older western and detective series, which were classics. But I do see a glimmer of hope with them due to their licensing arrangement with Time-Life on “The Man from U.N.C.L.E.”
5.Fox – Most of the Irwin Allen 1960s Sci-Fi series have been released, but they’ve pretty much come to a crashing halt for vintage releases after “The Big Valley” fiasco.
6.Sony – all of their pre-1970 output has been sitcoms (Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, Hazel, The Flying Nun, and Gidget) and it’s a rare occasion when they release anything in black & white.

If one was collecting modern shows from the 1990s and 2000s, your studio preferences might change dramatically; same for the 1970s/1980s.
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Originally Posted by Bryan^H
2. Fox-Wow! Truly horrible. One and done. Classics like ST. Elsewhere, and Hill Street Blues abandoned? Absurd. Let anpther company release these great shows. License them out!!!
I agree but at the same time, Fox is the best in the business for modern shows. I know alot of people in the TV section stopped watching new shows about 20 or 30 years ago but it doesn't change the fact that they still do great work for new shows.
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Originally Posted by TravisR
I agree but at the same time, Fox is the best in the business for modern shows. I know alot of people in the TV section stopped watching new shows about 20 or 30 years ago but it doesn't change the fact that they still do great work for new shows.

Weird! I don't know of anyone that has alienated new tv shows, especially going back 20, or 30 years. That seems extreme.
Most people I know love classic, and current tv on dvd. I just picked up season 2 of How I met your Mother, and If I could have season 2 of the Fall Guy, I'd be happy.
post #6 of 38

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Weird! I don't know of anyone that has alienated new tv shows, especially going back 20, or 30 years. That seems extreme.
Maybe they're just more vocal but I see plenty of "All new shows are bad" type of posts.
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Most people I know love classic, and current tv on dvd.
Me too.
post #7 of 38

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Bob's post is spot on in my opinion. There's just no doubt that CBS/Paramount is king and on top of the mountain by a long shot. MGM probably is in second at this point, but it's a distant second. And I shuffle 3-6 around every couple of days in my head. All four of those companies have disappointed me terribly to one degree or another. Universal would have probably climbed to second on my list if they just would have continued "Leave it to Beaver". Not that they don't have other holes, but that one show alone is so iconic that for them to just abandon it really brings them down to the cellar right along with Fox, WB and Sony. But there's no use rehashing it again (I've participated in this exercise numerous times in the past). Bob's list is the definitive one for my tastes.

Gary "and he's right about different decades being treated differently by these studios" O.
post #8 of 38

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Originally Posted by Bryan^H
Weird! I don't know of anyone that has alienated new tv shows, especially going back 20, or 30 years. That seems extreme.
Most people I know love classic, and current tv on dvd. I just picked up season 2 of How I met your Mother, and If I could have season 2 of the Fall Guy, I'd be happy.
true, but there are some vocal posters here who hate anything recent. I remember awhile back, someone referred to the DVD release of Maude as a "recent" show, therefore he hates it. Maude's last episode aired thirty years ago. This is current/recent how?

It's good to have an open mind and like old and new alike, but there are some people who dislike any show where the youngest child isn't 60 by now.
post #9 of 38

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I would argue that several of today's programs (Lost, The Office, 30 Rock, Friday Night Lights, Rescue Me, The Sopranos) will be viewed as classics in 20 years; they are every bit as entertaining as many of the old shows I love from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's (and I have favorites in every decade that I have purchased).

People seem to have rose-colored views of decades past in that they remember the good ones but seem to forget all the garbage, whereas today they notice the garbage more.
I think there were just as much crappy tv shows in the last couple decades as there are today (except cable has really exploded with lots of great shows in the last few years--and some lousy ones such as crap like Flavor of Love-- whereas the networks seem to have fewer must-see programs than in past decades).
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Originally Posted by Jay_B!
true, but there are some vocal posters here who hate anything recent. I remember awhile back, someone referred to the DVD release of Maude as a "recent" show, therefore he hates it.

Ooh, ooh! Would that be me? Sounds like something I might have said.

Gary "proud to say I think the 50's and 60's represent the pinnacle of television writing and have the best ratio of good to bad shows, but I also have shows from the 70's, 80's and 90's that I liked - just not nearly as many as the 50s/60s" O.
post #11 of 38

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Originally Posted by Bob Hug
Paramount – simply put, no one comes even remotely close for vintage releases.

True, but let's not forget this is also the studio that treated fans to the infamous "split-season" releases.

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Universal – actually not exceptionally good for vintage series, though they have done series like “Alfred Hitchcock Presents” and “The Munsters” but have abandoned series like “Adam-12” and “Dragnet.”

Agreed. What an incredible shame that Adam-12 has been abandoned after only 1 season. No doubt in part to Universal's decision to release the show on the ill fated DVD-18 format (having an enormous amount of defective sets returned can't help in the studio's decision to release more seasons).

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Originally Posted by Bob Hug
Fox – Most of the Irwin Allen 1960s Sci-Fi series have been released, but they’ve pretty much come to a crashing halt for vintage releases after “The Big Valley” fiasco.

So True. Following Paramount's ill-advised move, FOX decides to split season 2 of this wonderful show, to disastrous results. And what a shame for all of us thinking this fantastic show would have all 4 of it's seasons released.
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Originally Posted by jim_falconer
So True. Following Paramount's ill-advised move, FOX decides to split season 2 of this wonderful show, to disastrous results. And what a shame for all of us thinking this fantastic show would have all 4 of it's seasons released.

Hold on a minute. Are you sure that Fox copied Paramount on the split season deal. I thought perhaps it was Fox who started it with these IA releases and the Big Valley release. You may be right, but I'm just not sure of the timing. Also, couldn't we lay some of the blame at Image, who did the split season thing with "Combat" several years ago? Just saying...

Gary "not sure who really started the trend, but I'm thinking IMAGE might be the studio that did it first, although they released those split season COMBAT sets on the same day each time - so maybe that shouldn't count" O.
post #13 of 38

Best and Worst? Lots of Pros and Cons.

Best and Worst Studio for TV DVD Releases?

That’s a hard one. Depends on when you ask.

Until late 2005 early 2006, the best would have been Warner Bros. hands down. The Looney Tunes Golden Collections are exemplary. (BTW, of course Looney Tunes, Popeye, and other theatrical shorts are not technically “TV on DVD”. But, their longest running and best known incarnations were on TV, so that’s what I consider them.)

WB’s early Hanna-Barbera sets were almost in the same class. Great packaging, lots of features. Since then, they’ve cheapened the packaging and scrimped on the features – and probably have no intention of continuing early H-B releases, not to mention the various matters over Tom and Jerry – so they’ve dropped considerably.

Even modern stuff suffers. The three Season Sets of What’s New Scooby-Doo do not have any episode listings – I had to compile them myself and insert a Post-It Note inside the case! And, just this week, WB announced the long awaited (by ME, anyway) release of Freakazoid! BUT, with only 24 total episodes, they still decided to a “Season One” rather than a “Complete Series”… leaving 11 eps for a possible “Season Two”.

Last year FOX, about the time of the Land of the Giants Complete Series and a regular release schedule for Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, would have topped my list. Now, with the worries over the final season of Voyage (See the very active thread in this forum!), I regard them differently as well.

Still, they do a fine job on The Simpsons and Family Guy, especially with commentaries and features. Though separate releases for “Blue Harvest” and “Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story” do seem a bit mercenary, when they could have been part of their respective season sets. But, IF (…and I emphasize “IF”) Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea is abandoned one season shy of completion, FOX will totally lose my regard, as it seems to have done with other members of this forum.

I can’t completely echo the love for Paramount that I’ve seen in this thread. Yes, they’ve done very well so far on the release schedules on Wild Wild West (Completed! Thank you, Paramount!) and The Odd Couple… but included no extra features on any sets beyond the first season sets! A large studio like Paramount could do “just a little more”, wouldn’t you think!

Universal did give us Kolchak the Night Stalker (with no extras) and is doing a fine job with Woody Woodpecker. In addition, they’ve licensed Ironside and Mc Hale’s Navy to Shout Factory, rather than sit on them as potentially unprofitable, so they deserve some props.

Same for Shout Factory for being there to license these series… though I wish their promos were either optional, or played at the end rather than the beginning of a set’s first disc.

As for Disney, why no extras on their Ducktales set? Scrooge Mc Duck’s voice Alan Young and Scrooge’s creator comic book legend Carl Barks are both worthy of features. And there we many, many TV ads produced for the series during its heyday – some with original animation, and all with original voicing. Gather some of them for an inexpensive feature even Scrooge could love. That’s my two-and-a-half cents.
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Originally Posted by Gary OS
Ooh, ooh! Would that be me? Sounds like something I might have said.

Gary "proud to say I think the 50's and 60's represent the pinnacle of television writing and have the best ratio of good to bad shows, but I also have shows from the 70's, 80's and 90's that I liked - just not nearly as many as the 50s/60s" O.

I don't know but I could have said it just as easily. But I mainly collect 50s, 60s and 70s shows for a simple reason - once VCRs came about, I recorded the shows I wanted so for me at least it is not a big deal for them to come out on DVD. Most times they've been tinkered with, be it music or cut episodes like Alf. So when it comes to "modern" shows that I like, I'll take my unedited tape copies over buying the DVD versions. But I do have some shows that have aired in the last decade, things like Lateline and Grosse Pointe that are smartly written shows. I even saved myself some dubbing time by picking up the Ally McBeal set from England. So, no, it's not modern shows I dislike, it's modern stupid shows I dislike.

As for the ratings, Paramount is miles ahead in first and as far as I'm concerned, the others are all tied for last. Universal gets points for at least licensing the shows they won't put out (i.e., most anything pre-80s) but they lose points for all of their one and dones. Sony I would have said was number two until the last 12 months when they have just about abandoned the department. Fox to me is by far the worst - they don't license, they abandon just about every older show they start and their world revolves around Buffy, which is about the most idiotic show I've ever seen. Certainly among those that actually have fans. Until we start seeing some Fox classics, like Dobie Gillis, Room 222, Julia, Peyton Place, Adventures in Paradise, Green Hornet, etc., they are dead last and will stay there.
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Originally Posted by Joe Tor1
As for Disney, why no extras on their Ducktales set? Scrooge Mc Duck’s voice Alan Young and Scrooge’s creator comic book legend Carl Barks are both worthy of features. And there we many, many TV ads produced for the series during its heyday – some with original animation, and all with original voicing. Gather some of them for an inexpensive feature even Scrooge could love. That’s my two-and-a-half cents.

Scrooge must have been the one who approved the budget.

CBS/Paramount:
PROS:
—Releases lots of stuff
—Space-saving packaging
—Does remastering work most of the time

CONS:
—Cheaps out on music
—Removes original production logos
—Split-seasons

Warner:
PROS:
—Good with more recent series

CONS:
—Does not remaster and often uses substandard prints, especially with the Waltons
—All releases to be held in suspicion after what happened with Mama's Family
—All sitcoms not beginning with the letter F dropped like a rock after season 1

Fox:
PROS:
—Exemplary with most recent series

CONS:
—Nothing pre-Simpsons even registers with them anymore now that M*A*S*H is complete
—Shameful abandonment of several series, especially the MTM Productions acquisitions
—WKRP release was an absolute disgrace
—Some people have problems with dual-sided discs

Sony:
PROS:
—Willing to give some shows a second chance
—Tends to be good about music clearance with some exceptions
—Does remastering work

CONS:
—Doesn't bother to make sure all episodes are unedited, even on episodes that have been available unedited elsewhere.
—Won't continue releases of some shows but will put same shows' minisodes on unrelated DVDs
—Arbitrary release schedule
—Non-existent customer service
—Decades of historical logos replaced with Sony Pictures Television logo with a few exceptions
—Now farting out complete series sets with no added bonus material and probably no correction of edited episodes

Universal:
PROS:
—Willing to license shows to smaller companies
—Managed to license all music on Miami Vice and (so far) SNL (thanks to Stephen for reminding me)

CONS:
—The kings of one-and-done
—They make their DVD-18s at a cheap Mexican plant with a high failure rate
—They cut the original logos and then put the current movie logo at the beginning!

Disney:
PROS:
—Good about exchanging defective discs
—Tends to see more than half of their shows to the end
—Willing to license some stuff out

CONS:
—Customer service often not entirely truthful about technical problems
—Doesn't have that big of a library to begin with
—Extras, when present, are often fluffy or even insulting to the show

MGM:
PROS:
—Did remastering work (at least on Green Acres)

CONS:
—Dropped out of sight basically, leaving several shows up in the air
—Music rights cheapskate (on Addams Family)
—Questionable release tactics on Cagney & Lacey calling season 2 "The True Beginning" when they could have easily included the pilot film and the short seasons 1 and 3 with it as well.

All studios fail to do adequate promotion on their older catalog stuff, but I have seen banner ads for CBS/Paramount shows.

As for the indies, Shout! Factory deserves kudos but needs to work with the studio to obtain better source materials. A&E is okay, Anchor Bay has gone downhill since Starz took it over. Image did some great stuff but has done nothing lately. Rhino has all but ceased to exist. S'more Entertainment is one to look out for in the future as is Arts Alliance.
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Matthew,you're right on with the pros/cons of each studio.One pro,though,you haven't mentioned,for Universal,is that they clear the music for their shows.They cleared all the songs for Miami Vice and Saturday Night Live,which,I'm sure,other studios wouldn't have. The way I look at it is it makes little sense to say which studios are the best and worst,in general terms.Each studios have their strengths and weaknesses,in different areas,and one studio's strength,in one area,could be a different studios weakness in the same area,which is what you"ve prefectly detailed in your post post.
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True, but let's not forget this is also the studio [Paramount] that treated fans to the infamous "split-season" releases.

I did some quick checking just because that statement didn't seem correct to me. Fox actually beat Paramount to the split-season punch by almost 2 years as best I can tell. All the way back in 2004 Fox treated us to "Lost in Space: Season 2, Volume 1". Paramount didn't join the club until the Perry Mason releases which started up in July of 2006, almost two years after Fox. And since Image was releasing both volumes (1 & 2) of their "Combat" Season sets on the same day, I wouldn't count them in on this. Nope. Looks like Fox is the studio to blame for starting this fad.

Now, it is true that Paramount is taking split-season mania to new extremes. I grant that. But they didn't start the mess.

And while I think Matthew's post about pros and cons is very well stated, he leaves out a big part of the problem when he evaluates WB and Sony - they basically scoff at their B&W catalog. They have a huge, and I do mean huge, collection of iconic (a key word, IMHO) series from the 50's and early 60's that they turn their nose up at. That should be added to the con list for both studios.

Gary "Paramount is still King - by a long shot in my eyes" O.
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There was a similar thread on this topic a while back and I listed a whole lot of vintage Fox shows that have yet to be released. To refresh everyone's memory:

Peyton Place
Judd: For The Defense
Room 222
Dobie Gillis
The Ghost & Mrs. Muir
Adventures In Paradise
Bus Stop
Bracken's World
Nanny & The Professor
The Monroes
The Paper Chase
James At 15
Julia
Lancer
The Green Hornet
Twelve O'Clock High
Mr. Belvedere


and let's not forget the rest of the Four-Star and MTM shows that have yet to see the light of day!

(BTW- I didn't mention Batman since that's on EVERYBODY'S 'most wanted' list and it's caught in a rights dispute with Warner Bros.)
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Originally Posted by Stephen Wight
Matthew,you're right on with the pros/cons of each studio.One pro,though,you haven't mentioned,for Universal,is that they clear the music for their shows.They cleared all the songs for Miami Vice and Saturday Night Live,which,I'm sure,other studios wouldn't have. The way I look at it is it makes little sense to say which studios are the best and worst,in general terms.Each studios have their strengths and weaknesses,in different areas,and one studio's strength,in one area,could be a different studios weakness in the same area,which is what you"ve prefectly detailed in your post post.


Although from what I've been reading on the IMDB message board for the show, they did not clear music for The Equalizer and the replacement music is not even era appropriate. It's bad enough to take incidental music out but to then put in music that is obviously from another decade is ludicrous.
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CBS/Paramount is king in my book too. The only thing i could complain about them...i hate the "Made in Mexico" on the back of the box. That means i have a VERY good change of a scratched disc or two. Yes, the disc would play, but at $40 or so for some of these sets i want mint, not stepped on the floor and put in a box, discs. I had to take my last Perry Mason back 4 times before i found one that i could cobble together. Meaning i never found a perfect set! Same with my last M:I season set. A friend of mine had to take his last Wild, Wild, West set back quite a few times because it had more than one disc 3, and no disc 4, or some such thing.

And how could i forget my Twin Peaks complete set, 10 scratched discs!
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Originally Posted by Gary OS
I did some quick checking just because that statement didn't seem correct to me. Fox actually beat Paramount to the split-season punch by almost 2 years as best I can tell. All the way back in 2004 Fox treated us to "Lost in Space: Season 2, Volume 1". Paramount didn't join the club until the Perry Mason releases which started up in July of 2006, almost two years after Fox. And since Image was releasing both volumes (1 & 2) of their "Combat" Season sets on the same day, I wouldn't count them in on this. Nope. Looks like Fox is the studio to blame for starting this fad.

Now, it is true that Paramount is taking split-season mania to new extremes. I grant that. But they didn't start the mess.

And while I think Matthew's post about pros and cons is very well stated, he leaves out a big part of the problem when he evaluates WB and Sony - they basically scoff at their B&W catalog. They have a huge, and I do mean huge, collection of iconic (a key word, IMHO) series from the 50's and early 60's that they turn their nose up at. That should be added to the con list for both studios.

Gary "Paramount is still King - by a long shot in my eyes" O.


I LOVE being able to blame Fox for anything as they are by far my most despised company. As to the companies scoffing at their black and white catalogues, well I don't think it's fair to just single out Warner and Sony because other than Paramount, they all do it. And I'm also beginning to wonder exactly how many of those classic black and white Sony shows they truly own as opposed to just having syndicated. The Herbert Leonard shows have come from other distributors and even one of his lesser shows like Circus Boy I've heard is being shopped around by his estate, not by Sony. FKB got licensed from his estate and I'm pretty sure the Donna Reed Show is owned by hers. Rin Tin Tin was sold off by them a long time ago. So really, what are we talking about here, Dennis the Menace and Burns and Allen? Not to disparage those two shows but what else are we talking about here? The Hathaways, Our Man Higgins, Shannon, My Sister Eileen, Grindl, Dan Raven, Casey Jones, Two Faces West, Man From Blackhawk, Behind Closed Doors, The Ed Wynn Show, Jungle Jim, Manhunt, Tales of the Texas Rangers, Tales of the 77th Bengal Lancers, Tallahassee 7000. Not exactly a list of shows people are tearing down the doors for, although I wouldn't mind seeing a nice set of Tightrope, which is a great show. Warner on the other hand has all of those late 50s, early 60s detective and western shows that people of a certain age all go crazy for. Not to mention a lot of great old MGM shows they acquired when they bought Turner. And what exactly has Universal done with their vast black and white library? 2 season of LITB, 3 of AHP and that's it. No Thriller, Dragnet, M Squad, Mike Hammer, etc. Thankfully they have a good attitude about Timeless putting out many of these shows whose prints, ahem, fell off the back of a truck 2 decades ago. I've had all of those shows for years but it's nice to see them get a general release.
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I'd argue the favorites.

PARAMOUNT - While they do a good job when a title is released, wasn't there just a thread here about people refusing to buy THE LOVE BOAT because of the cost and the split season?

Many of their titles are way overpriced, when compared to say Warner Brothers. They average $72 for a full season, where Warner is normally $60. I won't even get into the STAR TREK sets.

UNIVERSAL - While SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE is one of my favorite TV sets, have they been forgiven for NORTHERN EXPOSURE with all the replaced music and double sided DVDs? Has anyone had a set of the original BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA that wasn't defective?

Not that each studio doesn't do good work, but the fact that both were named the favorites is questionable.

Both Fox and Warner I've been more happy with, even though Fox has abandoned KING OF THE HILL and other shows.
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When Paramount released "MacGyver" a couple of years ago, sure it didn't have any real extras, and the transfers weren't the best quality, but at least on the first two seasons, they kept the original "Blue Mountain" TV logo that was on the ABC airings-- you've got to give them credit for that. The original "Blue Mtn." logo from the ABC airings counts, at least to me, as a real bonus, even though there might not have been any featurettes, commentary, or the like. The "Blue Mtn." counts as a real bonus to me because a couple of other Paramount series, especially comedies, had the current logo or a recent logo on the end of the episodes on DVD-- "Taxi" and "Cheers" were like that.
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Originally Posted by Jon Martin

UNIVERSAL - While SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE is one of my favorite TV sets, have they been forgiven for NORTHERN EXPOSURE with all the replaced music and double sided DVDs? Has anyone had a set of the original BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA that wasn't defective?

I watched the original BSG all the way through, and there were no issues.

The Buck Rogers set however, was very problematic!
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CBS/Paramount: Lots of vintage TV series with good A/V (Twin Peaks, Wild Wild West, The Fugitive, Star Trek, etc.) and timely volume releases (we don't have to wait a year between season volumes of The Fugitive or The Untouchables). I'm not interested in a lot of their releases, but at least they're trying to cater to vintage TV fans with a variety of dramas and sitcoms. Oh yeah, they dropped Taxi after 3/5 of the series was released.

Universal: They've started a lot of vintage releases, but they either stop after the initial season or they take years before deciding to release further seasons (though they do an exceptional job with cult TV shows like the original Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers). I'm happy about Miami Vice, Rockford Files, Incredible Hulk and Kolchak, but wish they ramped up their Alfred Hitchcock Presents releases and finished Night Gallery and Amazing Stories.

Warner: They've done an excellent job on a few series I've collected--ER, Veronica Mars, Gilmore Girls--but I'm not interested in a lot of their programs. I also find Warner has higher SRP than a lot of the other studios (especially their DC animated releases)

Fox: Like others have stated, Fox has done a fabulous job with contemporary long-running and short-lived shows (Millennium, X-Files, Tru Calling, Buffy, Dark Angel etc.), but have really botched vintage TV releases. M*A*S*H had good presentation (optional laugh tracks), but they ditched Mary Tyler Moore (twice) and the Bob Newhart Show. Fans of Irwin Allen sci-fi aren't terribly impressed either.

Sony: They have a bad reputation for stalled releases, syndication prints, etc., but I don't believe I've ever bought a TV-on-DVD release from them (scanning the shelves and not seeing anything).

A&E: They get credit with releasing a lot of vintage British shows that I thought would never be released on R1 DVD, as I was able to retire tapes of Space: 1999 and The Prisoner (The Persuaders and Danger Man/Secret Agent were also pleasant but unexpected releases). Expensive multi-volume sets for short-lived series was a bit of an annoyance and they get demerits for failing to release all of The B/W Saint episodes.

Buena Vista: I was able to retire my blotchy My So-Called Life DVD set (and erasing the pain and expense of the "Lunchbox Incident") with a much better presentation.

Acorn Media: I wouldn't mention them, but they get credit for releasing excellent Canadian fare that was either botched by Canadian companies or ignored entirely. Quality releases of Slings and Arrows, Da Vinci's Inquest and the upcoming (and sadly cancelled) Intelligence. I would love to see them release This Is Wonderland, ReGenesis and jPod!
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I am impressed with the BBC Doctor Who discs, new and old series alike. They are proud of the discs, and the price shows that. But, the extras always sell me even if the episode of the classic show doesnt. The video restoration is also amazing. The US could learn a thing or two from the BBC restoration team! Kudos to Warner for its BBC distribution here in the States.
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A&E: Expensive multi-volume sets for short-lived series was a bit of an annoyance and they get demerits for failing to release all of The B/W Saint episodes.

They've also failed to complete single season shows like "The Champions" and "Randall and Hopkirk: Deceased." I have a love/hate attitude towards A&E . . . . . I love their ITC catalog releases for the most part, but hate the overinflated prices they charge. Most of my A&E acquistions have been as a result of closeouts and remainders where I've been able to get some comparatively good deals.
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Originally Posted by Hank Dearborn
As to the companies scoffing at their black and white catalogues, well I don't think it's fair to just single out Warner and Sony because other than Paramount, they all do it. And I'm also beginning to wonder exactly how many of those classic black and white Sony shows they truly own as opposed to just having syndicated.

I think you are correct, Hank. I've been falling into the same old pattern of thought that Sony owns any number of older classics that it seems they actually do not own (as far as distribution rights are concerned). See, a few years ago I was under the impression that they owned a bunch of classic sitcoms that they apparently do not, and I'm still guilty of judging them by that misinformation on my part. So I'll soften my stance on Sony ignoring true iconic classics from their b&w catalog. They apparently don't own "THE DONNA REED SHOW", and that was one of the big ones I kept thinking they owned. So I'm going to relent on them a little.

WB on the other hand, does seem to have a bunch of iconic b&w shows, especially in the western and detective vein. Don't they own all of the following:

77 Sunset Strip
Hawaiian Eye
Bourbon Street Beat
Surfside 6
Cheyenne
Sugarfoot
Bronco
Maverick
Colt .45
The Lawman
The Dakotas
The Alaskans
The F.B.I.

And there are probably others I'm missing. No, not all of those shows are true classics, but enough of them are that they warrant a failing grade for WB as far as their older series being kept locked up in the vault.

And yes, Fox is very poor with their older material. I guess I don't think of them as having as many b&w classics in their library as some of the others. But perhaps that's another misperception on my part.

Gary "I still think Sony is allergic to anything b&w though" O.
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In my opinion .Paramount is the best studios for dvd releases in in the last
few years they released some great classics exp. mission impossible ,the fugitive ,the untouchables and the streets of san francisco. And in the couple months more classics will be coming and I predict more

And for the worst studios its a three way tie with Universal,Sony and 20th Century Fox they have realeased only one or two seasons of a tv show and have abandoned the rest .universal ,mcloud,kojac,the hardy boys and alias smith and jones exp,sony hart to hart,police woman and fantasy island exp,and 20th century fox NYPD blue and the fall guy exp

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tv programs on dvd wishlist

the 60s
the fugitive,mannix,twelve o'clock high,room 222,batman,it takes a thief,the green hornet,maverick,the fbi,petticoat junction,the untouchables

the 70s
cannon,hart to hart,barnaby jones,angie,kaz,a man called sloane,shazam
harry o,the invisble man,house calls,the amazing spiderman,switch,nanny and
the professor,struck by lightning,trapper john md,kojac,eight is enough,dan
august,police woman,ellery queen,vegas,the streets of san francisco,the six
million dollar man,the bionic woman,the white shadow,longstreet,owen marshall counselor at law,alias smith and jones,project ufo,gemini man

the 80s
harper vallley pta,strike force,the fall guy,matt houston,ladies man,hagen
coach,mr belvedere,making the grade,the wonder years,china beach,the yellow rose
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Originally Posted by Gary OS
WB on the other hand, does seem to have a bunch of iconic b&w shows, especially in the western and detective vein. Don't they own all of the following:

77 Sunset Strip
Hawaiian Eye
Bourbon Street Beat
Surfside 6
Cheyenne
Sugarfoot
Bronco
Maverick
Colt .45
The Lawman
The Dakotas
The Alaskans
The F.B.I.


Adding to your list:

Roaring 20's
The Gallant Men
No Time for Sergeants
Hank
Mr. Roberts
Nichols
Harry O

And of course the shows they got from buying Turner:

Mr. Novak
Dr. Kildare
Cain's Hundred
The Lieutenant
The Eleventh Hour
Sam Benedict
Asphalt Jungle
Thin Man
Man Called Shenendoah
Please Don't Eat the Daisies
Courtship of Eddie's Father
Daktari
Medical Center
Girl From UNCLE
Then Came Bronson
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