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post #31 of 249
8/26/08 at 6:47pm

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It's such a good show though, that fans won't care that the storyline is completely whacked out. It pretty much always has been. They should be able to write it such that it is somewhat believable - I hope.
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post #32 of 249
8/26/08 at 10:46pm

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this news doesnt bother me, i'm glad that she is back.

i think it was a mistake to kill her character off the show.

btw, i've watched every single ep of this series and i still don't know what it is about.

from what i can remember the first season was one guy was framed for murder or attempted murder.
his brother conceived a plan to go to the same prison were his framed brother is and break him out.
After that I'm lost.
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post #33 of 249
8/26/08 at 11:29pm

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That's about it, just with a conspiracy on top. If I remember correctly:

Linc was framed for murdering the vice president's brother, only he didn't do the shooting and the victim wasn't the VP's brother. Apparently, the siblings had cooked up a scheme to get funding for an alternate energy engine, but it never existed. They were just taking the money, but somebody was getting close to the truth. So, they had it look like the brother was murdered in order to cover up the embezzlement and create sympathy for the VP. I think they had some deal with Linc to not fight the conviction so it could be over quick, but Michael was the fly in the ointment.

The second season was the conspiracy trying to kill them to keep them from telling the truth, along with the conspirators turning against each other. I don't think we know what the goal of the plot against the brothers has been from season three to the present.
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post #34 of 249
8/26/08 at 11:38pm

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greg that sums up perfectly what i've been abble to figure from what i have seen.

it seems like there really is no plot, just "what trouble will they be in next and how do they get out of it".
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post #35 of 249
8/27/08 at 5:34pm

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Originally Posted by Greg_S_H
That's about it, just with a conspiracy on top. If I remember correctly:

Linc was framed for murdering the vice president's brother, only he didn't do the shooting and the victim wasn't the VP's brother. Apparently, the siblings had cooked up a scheme to get funding for an alternate energy engine, but it never existed. They were just taking the money, but somebody was getting close to the truth. So, they had it look like the brother was murdered in order to cover up the embezzlement and create sympathy for the VP. I think they had some deal with Linc to not fight the conviction so it could be over quick, but Michael was the fly in the ointment.

The second season was the conspiracy trying to kill them to keep them from telling the truth, along with the conspirators turning against each other. I don't think we know what the goal of the plot against the brothers has been from season three to the present.

Don't we also know something about a taboo relationship with the VP (now P and back to nothing again) and her brother that they were going to blackmail her with?
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post #36 of 249
8/27/08 at 10:07pm

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Weren't they incestuous or something? I basically glossed over whatever happened in season 2 because I don't even really have much memory of it. I don't remember what happened to the original president--wasn't he poisoned or something?--and I didn't remember why the veep didn't ascend and if she is even still alive.
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post #37 of 249
8/27/08 at 10:34pm

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WTH.
again watched each ep, somehow i'm missing all these really wacked out plot
developments.
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post #38 of 249
8/28/08 at 2:07pm

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I didn't know until last night that this airs on Monday! Just a heads up in case you didn't know, either.
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post #39 of 249
8/28/08 at 3:10pm

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Originally Posted by Greg_S_H
I didn't know until last night that this airs on Monday! Just a heads up in case you didn't know, either.

Thanks for that. I upgraded my Media Center PC and haven't had the opportunity to add all of my series recordings yet (since the best way I can add them only works if there's guide data for them, so within 2 weeks) and I'd definitely have missed it.
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post #40 of 249
8/28/08 at 4:39pm

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Yeah, thanks for the heads up, Greg. I figured it was starting soon but I didn't know it was on Monday.
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post #41 of 249
8/28/08 at 6:24pm

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As I said in the Chuck thread, I had to get a different DVR in the spring and so lost all of my series recordings. I'm glad my info was useful.
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post #42 of 249
9/1/08 at 7:13pm

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Yawn.

Also, I don't know how much more ridiculous this can get unless they have to go to the Black Lodge to get the rest of the cards or something.

And I know they did it to explain it to the audience, but Michael and Sara both are made to seem like very intelligent people, I find it hard that neither of them would realize that "Scylla" was a reference to the Odyssey before reading Michael's father's notes. If anything, the best way to do it would've been one of them explaining it to Bellick, or even Lincoln, who wasn't as well educated himself. It just seemed extra forced this way.
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post #43 of 249
9/1/08 at 7:31pm

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I like that they've tried to stream line things and put nearly all the cast in one story this year (rather than last year when one guy was here and a couple were there, etc.). I guess this season will be an off the wall version of The Dirty Dozen.

What happened to the young kid in the basketbal jersey from last season? I thought he got tossed back in Sona last episode.
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post #44 of 249
9/1/08 at 10:03pm

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That "bad Mexican" line was so wrong but so funny.

Mahone having to slow up on Bellick was pretty funny too.
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post #45 of 249
9/2/08 at 11:02am

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There were some nice little ridiculous Prison Break moments, like Linc and Michael making bail. "Your Honor, these two are not a flight risk." "Agreed. Bail will be set at $1M a piece." And, Michael getting the full body tattoo removal.

I hate how cheap human life is to the writers. Killing Whistler and Mahone's family was good for dramatic purposes, I guess, but it took away an interesting actor and took away potential future storylines for Mahone. We didn't see the bodies on the latter, of course, and Gretchen was still alive, but I doubt if the Company placed those cops there just to stop Mahone from going in. Unless the Company is really employing our band of merry men for some reason, and that was the way to get Mahone in for sure.
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post #46 of 249
9/2/08 at 3:04pm

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I was pleasantly surprised. Two episodes in, I am greatly enjoying the new direction the show is taking. My one complaint right now is the character of T-Bag. I know he has a lot of fans and all, but seriously... He's not interesting anymore. At all. Every scene he was in, I was just waiting to get back to the good stuff. And he has outlived his usefulness as far as the story goes a long time ago, IMO.
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post #47 of 249
9/2/08 at 4:10pm

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Originally Posted by Arild
My one complaint right now is the character of T-Bag.
BLASPHEMY!! I get what you mean but I think it'll be fun when T-Bag catches up with Michael or the rest of the group. I do hope that he finally gets what's coming to him this season though.
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post #48 of 249
9/3/08 at 5:42am

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Originally Posted by Joe_H
And I know they did it to explain it to the audience, but Michael and Sara both are made to seem like very intelligent people, I find it hard that neither of them would realize that "Scylla" was a reference to the Odyssey before reading Michael's father's notes.
I thought it was a reference to The Police.
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post #49 of 249
9/3/08 at 12:38pm

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Enjoyed it! It's prison break, not ER or some Drama, it's supposed to be fun, and it will be.

I also laughed at Mahone catching up to Bellick. I think Bellick is the best actor on the show. How he has changed since season 1.
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post #50 of 249
9/4/08 at 12:08am

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well...

i am a little disappointed with the start of this season. the fact that the sarah is still alive irks me to all ends. too much soap opera for me...

but that wasn't the only thing that irked me.

is prison break the new A-Team. WTF? quirk band of misfits and ex-cons team up to take out the man.

GTFO.

i will give it a couple more eps to see what is up. i didn't have high hopes for this considering i was already thinking about how many prisons could they break out of to keep the show going. will it be season 7 and they are now in a seventh prison. sigh. some shows should only be for a certain length of time.
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post #51 of 249
9/4/08 at 12:13am

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Originally Posted by Steve_Tk
I also laughed at Mahone catching up to Bellick.

funniest moment of the two eps. "I had to slow down not to catch you." mexican line was a close second.

i laughed out loud for real.
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post #52 of 249
9/4/08 at 8:30am

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Originally Posted by Diallo B
is prison break the new A-Team. WTF? quirk band of misfits and ex-cons team up to take out the man.
I saw it described as one part Dirty Dozen, one part Mission: Impossible. On its own, that's not a bad premise for a series.

Afterward, my brother and I were laying odds on which New Guy would prove less trustworthy (Rappaport or the tech dude), and who would finally get to kill T-Bag. Our money's on Mahone, probably when bleeding out himself.
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post #53 of 249
9/5/08 at 8:17am

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Originally Posted by Steve_Tk
Enjoyed it! It's prison break, not ER or some Drama, it's supposed to be fun, and it will be.

I also laughed at Mahone catching up to Bellick. I think Bellick is the best actor on the show. How he has changed since season 1.

Yep, turns out he's a real mama's boy! So different than the tough guy guard from S1.
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post #54 of 249
9/5/08 at 9:10am

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Originally Posted by Steve_Tk
I think Bellick is the best actor on the show. How he has changed since season 1.

I liked how happy Bellick was to see Sara, even though he was just in the background of that scene.
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post #55 of 249
9/5/08 at 9:19am

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> I thought it was a reference to The Police.

Where do you think Sting got the line from?
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post #56 of 249
9/5/08 at 9:20am

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Originally Posted by Diallo B
is prison break the new A-Team.

That is exactly what I was thinking:

Michael "I love it when a plan comes together" Scofield
Howling Mad T-Bag
Lincoln "You drive me crazy, fool" Burroughs
Bradley "Faceman" Bellick

Sara = Melinda Culea
Michael Rappaport = Robert Vaughn

And instead of a van, they fly around in Prison Break One.

Maybe that's the plan for Season 5.

"... for a crime they did not commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security prison..."

Unless 6 of them die, like the prophecy suggests.
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post #57 of 249
9/5/08 at 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood
> I thought it was a reference to The Police.

Where do you think Sting got the line from?
Dry humor and the internet do not mix.
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post #58 of 249
9/6/08 at 5:41am

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I completely understand that people tough on the outside can be little boys on the inside, but the drastic shift in Bellick's personality is a turnoff for me. It just doesn't strike me as realistic. If this is where someone points out to me that Prison Break itself isn't realistic, let's not and say we did.
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post #59 of 249
9/6/08 at 7:38am

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
I completely understand that people tough on the outside can be little boys on the inside, but the drastic shift in Bellick's personality is a turnoff for me. It just doesn't strike me as realistic. If this is where someone points out to me that Prison Break itself isn't realistic, let's not and say we did.

Bellick's Personality really has not changed, he was always a scared little momma's boy that acted Tough when he was within the Prison walls and had all the Power as a Guard, as soon as that was removed, when he was on the run he went home to momma. Then after all the indecencies in Soma, his change is not hard to believe at all.
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post #60 of 249
9/6/08 at 8:28am

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I like the disparate Mod Squad/Mission Impossible vibe this season has adopted, but I really disliked how the reunion of Michael and Sarah was shot and directed, it just felt lifeless and dull. I don't think Wentworth Miller is all that convincing in a het role or the chemistry between him and Callies just isn't quite there yet again.
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