TDB: Fox/MGM prepping several catalog titles

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I hope they come lowered in price.




Crawdaddy

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What he said. Also, will Fargo follow in the footsteps of every MGM catalog release so far and have absolutely nothing in the way of supplements? I truly, truly hope Fox reduces their prices across the board by the time the holidays come. I don't like the concept of one of its biggest supporters still gouging customers on software prices when Blu has a big chance to get its foot in the door this holiday season.

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Mmmmmmmmmm Planet of the Apes!!!!!!


Doug

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I'd definitely pick up The French Connection, X-Men trilogy 1-2, the original Planet of the Apes, Young Frankenstein and maybe Fargo.

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At this point, I would be FAR more excited to see the Batman series show up on SD than to get the movie (which I do enjoy) in HD. I can't belive X-Men will show up before release of the Wolverine movie in 2009...so those are over a year away. Planet of the Apes would be great to have. I wouldn't mind Young Frankenstein either. Other than that I was expecting to see a lot more titles than these mentioned when I clicked the thread. Guess those strong (TDB?) rumours of Alien making it out this year- the first half of '08 was the time frame given IIRC- are going to end up being more hot air. Hopefully the films 30th anniversary in 09 will be the longest we have to wait. I would love to get a Bd of The Apartment but won't be holding my breath. As far as musicals- I really want some of the bigger R&H titles, but would be happy to see West Side Story come out . Can't think of many other (good) musicals MGM still owns beyond that and Fiddler on the Roof. Actually Sonys 1776 may be the musical I most want on HD now.

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I hope they come out. Period.


Of those titles, I would absolutely buy Walk the Line, The French Connection, Fargo, the X-Men trilogy, and the original Planet of the Apes.

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I'll definitely pick up Fargo. Depending on their cost and how much cash I've got on the weeks that they're released (or if I see them in a buy one, get one sale at some point), I'd pick up most of the others.

It's funny I was trying to figure why the thread title said this was 'to be decided'. Then I realized it TDB and not TBD.

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Bad Ass!!! I'd pay $100 for POTA. Very happy

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That's what they're counting on, early adoptors will buy more than the average consumer which is why they charge the prices they do.

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I guess this thread eventually will be another "Fox price range"-discussion, but let me still say this: Good news that new titles are coming. Keep the good titles coming and I´ll buy them. But yes, not in "full price" if they´re "bare bones" or something..

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Well you can't blame people for complaining, their catalog prices do suck.

It's deterred more than a few purchases from me though I'm not quite as militant as some because I'll still pick up "favorite" titles that come out as long as I can continue to afford it.

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Frankly, the constant bitching about Fox's prices has gotten beyond tiresome. Clearly people have forgotten laserdisc prices, not to mention DVD prices in its early days. As DVD became commonplace, the prices dropped. The same will happen with Blu-ray.

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Sure sure, but it´s just that perhaps we could have at least one thread where we could talk about the actual Fox-releases and films..

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That's too bad, but I'm going to speak out about their prices until they come down. It isn't about me, but for this format to grow, it needs to be more competitive in their pricing, plain and simple.






Crawdaddy

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You can't separate the good from the bad, they're connected whether you like it or not.






Crawdaddy

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Oh well, I give up..

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Robert Crawford said it so excellently before (in another thread, I believe): it's the price-structure they should give a serious thought.
New blockbusters is one group, but catalog titles is quite another.

Of course there will always be a few catalog titles that will be bought by a few collectors almost regardless of the price.

But many collectors will simply have to choose whether or not to double-dip on many of the catalog titles they already own on DVD.
"Shall I replace the DVD by this new Blu-ray version?". The presence or absence of extras, the quality of the image, the new audio channels are certainly important considerations then.
And to many it will be a necessity to consider the price of the new goodies. It's a different weighing process, so the price simply needs to be more attractive.

If new BD versions are priced at exactly (or almost) the same level as new blockbusters - that will pose a problem achieving market penetration, IMO.


Cees

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Frankly, my negative comments about Fox/MGM catalog pricing is against my basic nature as a collector and film lover. You don't acquire a library of over 4000 discs worrying about pricing. However, I'm concern about this format becoming more than a niche market especially with the current state of the economy as it is, the only way it's going to make it beyond the HT enthusiasts like ourselves is for their product to be competitively priced and marketed in a way that catches on with the mass market. We're coming up to the two year anniversary and it would be nice that at that time, Fox goes beyond their recent price reductions on select titles and do the same with all catalog titles. If Fox's competitors can price their catalog titles more competitively, why can't Fox/MGM?

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Sure, I agree.

I have almost all Fox/MGM-titles that have interest me (many), but I´ll admit that most of them were bought from these Bogo-sales from the last Xmas-time (cheap as hell! ). But I´ve bought some titles in full price also.

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Nobody is preventing you from not discussing those titles.

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Its a real shame that jerks are running FOx/MGM when fox started they
charged a lot for stardard dvd (not to mention their insane Laser prices)
This is a Kick in the Teeth when two years latter the same dvd is out
this time with special features at half the cost !!!

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I'll believe the good news when these titles are actually on the store shelves. Fox's track record of canceling announced titles doesn't instill confidence.

Doug

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While I agree with your feelings wrt Fox pricing, I have to admit it's a tad disingenuous to continually post, in multiple threads, about your personal pet peeve, then tell fellow posters that you're going to continue this practice; while, as moderator, you publicly admonish other posters for doing the same thing.

Perhaps a specific sticky thread to discuss Fox (and other's) BD pricing would be a better way to make your points, and would also provide a convenient place for any studio representatives (especially Fox) that the HTF leadership could convince to come by for a quick reality check of HT enthusiast issues.

It's taken me 3 hours to word this post, as I want to remain positive about things, but I am concerned about the attitude, and wanted to make a public statement.

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Good idea. I mean this "Fox price"-issue will eventually kill all the Fox related-threads. E.g. with this topic, it was the 2nd post where the "price"-argument was raised (still not the record). After that, the thread will take the usual route (price-debate, Fox anger - even "Blu-ray is greedy and it sucks") and the people wanting to talk about those actual releases are long gone.

So perhaps we need that "BD pricing" thread?

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Thank you for your comments, though, I disagree with your use of "disingenuous" in regard to my so-called pet peeve about Fox/MGM BR pricing. Unlike, cover artwork for example, this is an issue that affects us all to some degree not just Robert Crawford because the more you pay for Fox/MGM releases the less money you have to buy other releases. Fox already knows we have issues with their BR pricing. I personally asked Steve Feldstein about this issue and he basically refused to answer that question. Furthermore, this wasn't the first time Fox was asked about their pricing and their reply was that the "early adoptor will pay more for software". In a few months, it will be two full years into this format, when does it stop being early adoptors paying more for software with their catalog software becoming available at a price point that the mass market can find reasonable?

Perhaps, I am being overbearing with this issue, but I find it disconcerting that though people are concerned about Fox/MGM pricing, they rather not talk about it and instead just keep buying Fox/MGM software which does nothing, but encourages them to continue their pricing structure in regard to catalog releases. I will grant you that I have made my point in this thread so I will not broach this subject matter again here except in response to posts such as yours.

In closing, I've always tried to remain positive in regard to the studios and have defended them for years against attacks by others on various issues. Being negative is not usually part of my makeup as I always try to look for the positives in everything. I've supported this new format by having 3 Blu-ray players in my household with hopefully a 4th one in the next several months that will play all of the options offered with this video format. My BR collection is about to cross the 200 disc mark with the hope that Fox/MGM titles segment of my collection keeps growing too.







Crawdaddy

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You keep saying you want to talk about these new releases. Why don't you practice what you preach?






Crawdaddy

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Ah, it´s "me" again. Perhaps it´s "you" every once in a while..

Films? Let´s put it in this way. If Fox keeps releasing great titles and is keeping the extras, I´ll keep buying them. Some in full price, and some from the next bogo-sales (or similar). From the sales I´ll also get those "bare bones"-titles (and keep the SD DVD) eventually.

There are some titles (e.g. original PotA, "Longest Day") that I´ll buy as soon as they´re released. E.g. "Longest Day" is a special film for me (I´ve seen those actual beaches and visited in Normandy for starters).

So it´s great that Fox is releasing Blu-ray-titles. I´m not happy with several of their releases (extras dropped and still the high price), but at least they´re releasing titles (it´s better than what Universal and Paramount are doing at the moment).

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I would hope that Fox is releasing titles compared to what Universal and Paramount has done with BR, but due to the circumstances that's not really a fair comparison.

Anyhow, I will not deprive myself of my favorite Fox/MGM films due to this pricing issue. I am a firm believer in "not cutting off my noise to spite my face". Therefore, I will be buying "Patton", "The French Connection" and "Planet of the Apes" once they're released on BR because they've been among my favorite films ever since I watched them in a cinema more than 35 years ago. However, there are so many other titles I could've bought too.





Crawdaddy