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A few words about...™ Bonnie and Clyde -- in Blu-Ray

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An absolutely gorgeous job of scanning and image manipulation down to HD quality, Warner's new Blu-Ray of Bonnie and Clyde is much like viewing a dye transfer print of the film, but with a bit less overall saturation and a higher apparent resolution.

There is something special about screening a new film with neither reviews nor comments from any source. This precisely how I saw the film for the first time in 1967 -- at an employee screening in NY, with no idea what was going to be on screen. It was one of those situations in which the power of a film done well comes through and stays with you.

Four decades later, the film holds up magnificently, with all of the visceral impact still in place.

Bonnie and Clyde is not only one of the great films of the '60s, but should retain a special place in many people's list of the top 100 films from any decade.

This is a meticulously produced BD disc of the highest quality, that comes Extremely Highly Recommended, and should be a part of any serious collection of cinema on home video.

RAH

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Great as always to hear your impressions, RAH.

Can't wait for the pre-order to land in my mailbox.
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great to hear,I wan't crazy about the HD Net version,hope this is better
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I wonder if HDNet Movies gets pre-existing 1080i masters.

Either way this'll be on the MatthewA Birthday Wish List.
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Thank you, Mr. Harris, for convincing me to finally add this film to my permanent collection. There's something amazing about this film because it has the ability to be both brutal and charming at the same time. It would never occupy any of my shelf space though, until in a worthy package of bonus materials and image quality. This is it.
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Mr. Harris,

You are preaching to the choir here in regards to hailing
Bonnie and Clyde as one of the best films ever made.
It's a film that I also saw at a young age and instantly fell in
love with --- particularly the performance by Estelle Parsons.

I am waiting anxiously for this Blu-ray release and am very
grateful to you for giving us an early taste of what we should
expect.
post #7 of 53
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Ron,

You were allowed into the theater in 1967?

RAH
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
Ron,

You were allowed into the theater in 1967?

RAH



I'm sure he meant on home video, but in that case, how did his parents let him watch it - I mean, who's supervising these whippersnappers anyway!??!

(Actually, in a related incident, I did see M*A*S*H as a precocious six-year-old, when my parents saw it at the drive-in, and the three of us (my brother, sister and I) were piled in the back seat of our car and put to "bed". Saves on the cost of a babysitter, eh?
post #9 of 53

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I will be buying this BD release, partly because of the film, partly because of the endorsement by RAH.
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You were allowed into the theater in 1967?

No, silly!

I first saw this film at Summer camp in the early '70s.

I had to be, at best, 10 years old. It was shown from one
of those 16mm projectors on a bedsheet. It was just awesome!
In hindsight, I am surprised such a violent film was shown to us,
but things were a lot different back then. In my high school film
class we were watching R-rated fare. Can't get away with that kind
of stuff anymore in today's society.
post #11 of 53

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You were allowed into the theater in 1967?
I'm sure he wasn't, but I was. I'd just left the army (drafted) and it was a revelation.

The song was on the radio for months.

I own both SD DVD versions (1997, 1999, the first one was P&S ).

Not trying to thread-crap here, but I'm getting the HD version as well: just the other, uhm, colour.

Can't wait!


Cees
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I only meant the colour of the HD case, Robert.


Cees
post #14 of 53

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Got this today from my order at the Warner store. It's a blind-buy for me, but I'm looking forward to watching it, especially after reading some of the comments in this thread. I'll probably watch it this weekend, unless I have time for it tomorrow night.
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Originally Posted by Scott_J
Got this today from my order at the Warner store. It's a blind-buy for me, but I'm looking forward to watching it, especially after reading some of the comments in this thread. I'll probably watch it this weekend, unless I have time for it tomorrow night.

Man, Warner's breaks it's own street date...by a week?! Wow.

Scott: You are going to love it. Guaran-freakin'-teed. And if you don't, give me a good deal on it and I'll take it off your hands!
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Man, Warner's breaks it's own street date...by a week?! Wow.

Warner's store is a very strange and unpredictable beast.

They just charged me for The Song Remains The Same, which I received months ago. I need to check whether they were accurate in saying they'd never charged me for it in the first place. . .
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great to hear,I wan't crazy about the HD Net version,hope this is better

It had some dreadful looking burns and way too much speckling. I hope so too. If Robert likes it, what we saw must of been before the work-over...?

It's one of my fav films, of course!
post #18 of 53

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I can't wait for this to come out...it is so close and yet so far away. The review has just made me long for it even more.
post #19 of 53

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I posted this question in the review thread but thought it
would be better asked here if I wanted the attention of Mr. Harris.

Just finished watching the this film on Blu-ray.

Certainly one of the greatest classic films ever made.
I never tire of watching this film every few years.

I have a question for Mr. Harris...

The entire scene where Bonnie reunites with her Mother seems
terribly out of place. The quality of the video gets very soft and
muddy. At first I thought this was done purposely to set a
particular mood. But in addition to the murky video, the audio
levels suffer as well. Very difficult to hear dialogue in the first
portion of that scene.

So, is this a matter of the filmmakers making a stylistic choice
or is there film damage here?
post #20 of 53

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
I posted this question in the review thread but thought it
would be better asked here if I wanted the attention of Mr. Harris.

Just finished watching the this film on Blu-ray.

Certainly one of the greatest classic films ever made.
I never tire of watching this film every few years.

I have a question for Mr. Harris...

The entire scene where Bonnie reunites with her Mother seems
terribly out of place. The quality of the video gets very soft and
muddy. At first I thought this was done purposely to set a
particular mood. But in addition to the murky video, the audio
levels suffer as well. Very difficult to hear dialogue in the first
portion of that scene.

So, is this a matter of the filmmakers making a stylistic choice
or is there film damage here?

Your question is answered in the (quite good) featurette included on the disc. The director intended it to be a much more dreamlike sequence, so the DP had someone go grab a piece of screen and put it between the lens to make the soft/murky appearance that you see. As for the audio, I can't say.
post #21 of 53

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More specifically, the intent was to create an old-time "sepia tone"-like effect, especially suited for the montage cuts.
post #22 of 53

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Someone posted a screenplay excerpt in the review thread that says essentially "everything is hazy and muffled."
post #23 of 53

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Awesome movie, I picked it up on blu ray thanks to a coupon for $5 off I found at best buy... I was leaning towards the dvd version, it was tough, but the $5 coupon sold me.
post #24 of 53

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Originally Posted by jumbotron
I was leaning towards the dvd version, it was tough, but the $5 coupon sold me.

Why would you ever be leaning toward an SD if a Blu-ray is available and you're Blu-ray capable???
post #25 of 53

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Originally Posted by Travis Brashear
Why would you ever be leaning toward an SD if a Blu-ray is available and you're Blu-ray capable???

Yeah, I gotta ask the same thing. I mean, the packaging on the 2-disc SD looks great, but in the end the play is the thing and the BD on this film looks remarkable. Very nice work on this one, Warner.
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Originally Posted by jumbotron
I was leaning towards the dvd version, it was tough, but the $5 coupon sold me.

[Sheila Broflovski] What, what, what?!? [/Sheila Broflovski]
post #27 of 53

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Originally Posted by Shawn.F
Yeah, I gotta ask the same thing. I mean, the packaging on the 2-disc SD looks great, but in the end the play is the thing and the BD on this film looks remarkable. Very nice work on this one, Warner.

Pretty much the price because I am cheap. It is still hard for me to spend $20+ on a Blu ray...even for HD. I am so used to buying dvd's for less than $10.
post #28 of 53

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Wow...once I saw the difference between the toothless hooker SD and the high priced call girl BD, I decided money would have to be no object...
post #29 of 53

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Well, the only reason I don't own the B&C BD is the price.

If my choice is between the cheap toothless hooker and the high-priced call girl, I choose neither because I'm not enamored with what the former brings to the table and I can't afford the other option (even if I wanted to!).

Want my business? Lower the price.

As is the case with most of the SD-DVD purchases, I buy most of my BD discs either on some kind of major sale...or from the "used" bin at my local store. If I am going to pay full price...it's got to be a major event for me.

I can't do the "money is no object" thing, even if the product is that good.
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
I can't do the "money is no object" thing, even if the product is that good.
I can only do it on what are essential, must-own titles to me (like Bonnie & Clyde). I would have gladly paid $40 or $50 each for the Kubrick films if that's what they were asking. The same is true of CE3K. However, I have numerous titles that I picked up for $10-15 on special sales that I wouldn't have normally purchased.
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