Star Trek Trivia (Series and Films) - Page 34

Well, since it's not mentioned on screen, McCoy's daughter doesn't count.

Sulu's daughter doesn't count either since it was in a film.

Lt. Palamas was supposed to be pregnant with Apollo's child, but that too doesn't count!

Spock may have made Savvik pregnant too, but then again, it's in a movie.

 That depends on if you consider the animated series canon or not. McCoy's daughter is mentioned in TAS.

You guys have gotten a few I didn't know about.  I am thinking of one other one that happened in the episode but wasn't mentioned until a book about it.  Just mentioning they have a child isn't enough.  They had to actually conceive the child during the episode.  So I guess Lt. Palamas would count since it obviously had to be during the episode.

Edit:  There was no indication in Who Mourns for Adonnis? that Apollo and Lt. Palamas were that intimate so that one is a tough one.  The one I am thinking of made it quite clear it could have happened.

Sister Edith Keeler? Or could it have been Mira Romaine and Scotty?

Michael, I forgot about TAS, I must watch those again!

Here's one I bet someone here will get:

What episode is this William Shatner autographed picture of Kirk from?

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I'm going to say it's from "Spock's Brain"?

IIRC, McCoy's daughter did appear in an unfilmed third season script. And I think the infamous space hippie episode was going to feature her as well, before it was rewritten to make the character an old flame of Chekov's.

Answering the question from a few comments back.

I know the episode. It is All Our Yesterdays. Spock and Zarabeth got it on. In a book (i dont remember the name) Spock goes back in time to that planet to rescue his son.

Rick has identified the other one I was thinking of.  The book was Yesterday's Son.

Edit - Yes Kirk could have 30 or 40 illegitimate children all over the galaxy from these episodes but let's assume that in the future they understand about safe-sex practices and he wasn't that reckless to potentially father that many children.  That would be an interesting asnwer; How many women did Kirk bed during the 79 episodes?

Good one, I forgot about All Our Yesterdays. I also read Yesterday's Son, that was a pretty good book in those dark pre-film days!

Regarding Lt. Palamas, I recall the original script for Who Mourns for Adonis ends with McCoy telling Kirk that she's pregnant and the Star Trek novelizations by James Blish uses that script for his adaptation.

That is interesting considering Deela was all over Capt. Kirk in Wink of an Eye so it seems they didn't squash all women being rather forceful sexually.  It seems like it would have been okay if Palamas was willing or "let" herself be seduced by Apollo but it was never filmed that way.  In the broadcast episode Apollo talks about her becoming his mate and bearing many sons but seemed to imply that was a future action and not one that may have already happened.  No "put her sandals on" shot to imply what just happened or even a getting up from a laying position.  I'm pretty sure Capt. Kirk asked if she loved him, not "Did you make love to him?" but maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.

 I understood that the censors did make them cut out the ending of Adonis. Shoot, i do not know if you could even say the word pregnant in 1967. I know you couldnt when Lucy was.

 Your right, it's from Spock's Brain. I knew a fan here could see and recognize the viewscreen in back.

 I hadn't thought of Who Mourns for Adonis much other then it was an interesting concept of advanced aliens visiting Earth when Man was still in a pre-space fairing state. Getting into the whole Palamas/Apollo love thing has been interesting!

By the way, I came across two websites that has some period magazine articles and photos of Shatner and Nimoy in the Star Trek years and pre and post Star Trek too. Kinda interesting reading. If interested, I can post that info, either here or in a new thread. One had an article, I guess a Hollywood fan rag from 1967 following Shatner to the studio with a photo spread of then taking a plaster cast of him. Not sure why he had a plaster cast made for. 

The Tantalus device was actually behind a piece of artwork Scott. Thats what the orange/red thing made out of the same fabric as the sickbay beds is. You will see lots of different shapes, and size versions, mostly in people's quarters. You know, the device was supposed to be hidden, so no one else could use it.

At least they could have implied they had sex but maybe they thought that was even worse than being pregnant.  Apparently there is a book that follows up to Palamas having a child by Apollo: Star Trek: New Frontier but that takes place in TNG time frame.  I like this episode and I do feel bad for Apollo when they destroy the temple.  Obviously they couldn't stay on the planet but it would have been nice if they could have worked something else out.

Scott, I agree with you about how Who Mourns for Adonais ended. I guess it was written in a hurry, or they felt they had to do that to show that Man is over the concept of God worship. I don't know.. But I thought the Star Trek production staff was better then that given episodes like The Devil in the Dark. At least McCoy and Kirk at the end felt bad they had to do that.

Sorry Scott, I'm not getting enough sleep lately and messed up your name for Chuck's. And sorry to Chuck too! Working too many hours!

Also here's an excerpt from the script that was deleted:

According to Allan Asherman's The Star Trek Compendium, an abandoned ending to this episode would have revealed that Palamas was pregnant by Apollo. In fact, James Blish uses this ending in his adaptation of the episode in Star Trek 7:

• KIRK: "Yes, Bones? Somebody ill?"
• McCOY: "Carolyn Palamas rejected her breakfast this mornin."
• KIRK: "Some bug going around?"
• McCOY: "She's pregnant, Jim. I've just examined her."
• KIRK: "What?"
• McCOY: "You heard me."
• KIRK: "Apollo?"
• McCOY: "Yes"
• KIRK: "Bones, it's impossible!"
• McCOY: "Spock, may I put a question to this gadget of yours? I'd like to ask it if I'm to turn my Sickbay into a delivery room for a human child–or a god. My medical courses did not include obstetrics for infant gods."

Also parts of Nomad was used for M5, The robot Flint built! And they reused the Romulan Commander's computer in Flint's lab. I agree it's fun to see how they re-used and reworked props and set walls on other sets. The bar in Court Martial has pieces of The Fesarius's set!

McCoy does say it in "A Trouble of Tribbles" . "They're born pregnant."

 Yup, you could say Pregnant in 1967, you just had to be married (or an animal) in a TV show to use it.

Since there seems to be a lull at the moment, I'll ask a question that isn't trivia but to spur on a little discussion.

Is there any episode that has so many scientifically implausible actions and/or contradictions within the TOS universe that you cannot stand to watch the episode?

I'm not talking about warp engines or such things that are just naturally part of the Star Trek universe.  I'll give mine as an example but there are several other episodes I can think of that might just cause people to go crazy.

Wink of an Eye
This one has so many I don't even know where to begin.
1.  The speed at which the Scalosians move relative to what they show the normal crew implies something on the order of 1 minute = a week or more.  However if it was that fast then the Scalosians would have been done with their modifications before the landing party ever stepped out of the transporter.
2.  The Scalosians would have had to stand just as still as the crew to be beamed aboard so therefore that would have been seen.  Not to mention they would have had to hold it for quite some time waiting and waiting for beaming to complete.
3.  Apparently when the Scalosians push the transporter controls super-fast, the transporter works super-fast.  Deela even mentions how slow the transporter is.
4.  They also have super-fast doors to rooms, the elevator door, and the elevator itself.  Possibly even a special inter-dimensional elevator since if it was being used by a crewman, the Scalosians on the bridge might have to wait a week or more for it to show up.
5.  The physics of air don't change because the people are super-accelerated.  Basically they are all like the The Flash and would be creating massive wind blasts and sonic booms when they moved about.
6.  Cell damage causes humans to almost instantly age.  Cells are constantly dying and being regenerated.  Deela would have damaged many of Kirk's cells when they had sex even if she didn't scratch him.
7.  No one noticed the phaser blast on the bridge that Capt. Kirk set off because that still happens within normal perceived time?

Good idea, Yes, I agree Wink of an Eye has a lot of issues.

I never liked The Alternative Factor. Maybe because it was such a goofy idea. The whole episode was a mess! Barrymore not showing up and editing that's confusing! I can't fault the actor who played Lazarus who came in to fill-in for Barrymore at the last minute. Have to wonder if that episode would have been better if Barrymore did do it. 

I had an idea for another topic, but this is good, lets see how this plays out!

The last minute gutting of the romantic subplot between Lazarus and Lt. Masters didn't help things any either. The episode makes for a great drinking game though!

I thought it was interesting that Voyager revisited the idea of beings living in accelerated time.

"Tomorrow is Yesterday" is a fun episode, but figuring out how beaming people into their past selves is supposed to undo any timeline changes makes me go cross-eyed.

The only real issue I had with The Alternative Factor was the ending.

Lazarus:
"If he come through at a time of his choosing, it will spell the end of both our universes."

Wrong solution: "So throw him through when I am waiting in the middle and destroy his ship"
Reasonable solution: "So could you go back and I dunno, kill him!  Then he will never come through at all."