Star Trek Trivia (Series and Films) - Page 108

Lee, thanks. I forgot to add Barbara Baldavin.

I never thought of McCoy being infected too had The Naked Time been done differently. My thinking is perhaps they felt they couldn't infect him, he needs to find the cure. I had wondered why he didn't get infected though given how he touched Chapel and Sulu.

Thanks for the info on why Paskey quit. Raising a family is a good reason!

Nelson, that's a good point. I may lament the missed characterization opportunity, but who would have cured the disease?

 

Scott, yes that is what I meant about The Immunity Syndrome and The Naked Time. I will add Landru to our list.

 

I think I have the next question. Can you name all the occasions on which a member of the Enterprise crew was officially charged with a crime or offense. (They commit them ALL the time; I'm talking about actual legal proceedings of some kind.)

Excellent opening salvo. Marla McGivers and Ben Finney are surely on the list.Tracey (I think it's Ron, not John) would work, but he is not a member of the Enterprise's crew. As we know, all respected Federation citizens and Starfleet personnel are disasters waiting to happen, so I thought it would be easier to limit it to "our" guys. Merik is in the same category, though he dies before he could face any charges.

Yes great question!

Well, we can't leave the obvious Captain Kirk out who was up on charges of negligence and the "death" of Ben Finney and court martialed.

Spock was court martialed too for kidnapping Captain Pike and taking the Enterprise to Talos.

Scotty was up on murder charges on Argelius.

I don't suppose the situation in Turnabout Intruder counts when Janice/Kirk charges Spock, McCoy and Scott with mutiny?

Shatner certainly had a field day going hysterical in that scene. " It's mutiny! "

BTW, I hadn't realized Lt. Lisa in this episode is Angela Martine from Shore Leave too.

Those are the rest of the series examples I had. Scott is correct that, technically, Spock is never really charged in The Menagerie because the entire court-martial is an illusion. But since we are also fooled by the illusion as it happens, I say it belongs there.I don't see why the Turnabout Intruder example shouldn't count. The charges might not stand up on appeal, but the proceedings looked official to me. As incompetence is not criminal, however, I wouldn't count Kirk's hearing in The Deadly Years.

 

There are other examples from the animated series and the movies, if you're interested in going there...

Though, of course, they already had...

Right! So for the films, Kirk was busted by the President of the UFP for violating orders by going to Genesis and stealing the Enterprise, but was made Captain of the Enterise A. The crew was also on trial for the same charges.

Of course the Klingons don't like Kirk either. So they put Kirk and McCoy on a show trial for killing Ambassador Gorkon.

Both correct! I love the reading of the charges in STIV when the camera reaches Scotty on "destruction of Federation property." A nice nod to the previous movie.

And in the animated series, McCoy is charged with genocide on Dramia II in Albatross and the whole crew faces disciplinary charges in the other dimension in Time Trap.

 

I think Nelson got more of the answers there, so he is on.

Hi Lee, thanks! I vaguely remembered something that seemed like a trial in The Time Trap. But it's been a while, so I wasn't sure.

So here's scrapping the bottom a little:

Name all the captains, skippers or commodores who commanded starships and freighters and other Federation vessels. Those that were known in TOS to have been in command or are commanding a Federation vessel. I guess TAS can be included, but I only know a little.

Edit: By the way, I just put The Time Trap on. It made me wonder, the Shatner Space: The Final Frontier voice over sounded exactly like the same recording Shatner did for TOS. I wonder if they used the same recording?
Edited by Nelson Au - 2/12/12 at 3:13pm

A who's who of victims, criminals, and troublemakers, for the most part.

 

I'll start with the first season ones I remember:

James Kirk (Enterprise)

Christopher Pike (Enterprise)

Ramart (Antares)

Jon Daily (Astral Queen)

Commodore Stone (Unknown, but he used to command something)

Krasnovsky (Unknown)

Chandra (Unknown)

 

I assume you mean official ships of some kind, letting out private citizens like Harry Mudd and Cyrano Jones.

A splendid start Lee! And I like your description, criminals and trouble makers!

Yes, Harry Mudd and Jones are private ships, so I would agree they they don't count.

BTW, if you missed my earlier editing of my post, I mentioned I am watching The Time Trap now. I just heard Shatner say sabotage like he does.

Interesting question about the narration. All my DVDs are packed away, but I will try to listen on YouTube later and see if they sound the same to me, too.

Not to sound snarky, but I can't believe how many times the past few weeks where this hasn't been the #1 thread in the TV postings. Anybody new to this forum probably figured it was full of a bunch of old farts dicussing their memories of a quaint old show from the past.

I even recently asked a question in this thread, but still isn't it about time to keep this part of the forum based on moderately current TV shows? Let this one rest in old age in it's own personal thread not mixed in with the current stuff. Maybe put a Lucille Ball or Milton Berle thread with it so people get the point of "the past".

New episodes of Survivor and The Amazing Race are coming up, yet people who want to join or just stumble on to this discover discussions over 40 year old shows? They''re probably to young to even remember The Brady Bunch, let alone Star Trek. Why read up on what a bunch of dinosaurs have to say about things done long ago.

I don't mind TOS, and own all the episodes of Next Gen and Enteprise, but do we see threads on them?.

Prepped for the flames, so let em rip.

Not to sound snarky, but I can't believe how many times the past few weeks where this hasn't been the #1 thread in the TV postings. Anybody new to this forum probably figured it was full of a bunch of old farts dicussing their memories of a quaint old show from the past.

I even recently asked a question in this thread, but still isn't it about time to keep this part of the forum based on moderately current TV shows? Let this one rest in old age in it's own personal thread not mixed in with the current stuff. Maybe put a Lucille Ball or Milton Berle thread with it so people get the point of "the past".

New episodes of Survivor and The Amazing Race are coming up, yet people who want to join or just stumble on to this discover discussions over 40 year old shows? They''re probably to young to even remember The Brady Bunch, let alone Star Trek. Why read up on what a bunch of dinosaurs have to say about things done long ago.

I don't mind TOS, and own all the episodes of Next Gen and Enteprise, but do we see threads on them?.

Prepped for the flames, so let em rip.

Not sure why the double post. My wi-fi froze briefly so must have done it for me.

As I was saying...

 

I listened to them and I think you are exactly right about the narrations. I never noticed before, possibly because of the difference in music, reverb, etc. Quite a neat discovery.

 

Oh, for all you youngsters stumbling in looking for interesting news, I heard there are new Survivor episodes coming up. In fact, I somehow heard it twice.

I would bet money that Star Trek will be around longer in reruns than Survivor.
Not bad for a show that only ran 3 years.

Stan are you gonna crap in The Fugitive thread, or Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea thread next? Those are two old threads that still get some life.

Since no one else is leaping in on the captains question, here is my list for the second season:

 

Matt Decker (Constellation)

R.M. Merik (Beagle)

Garrovick (Farragut)

Bob Wesley (Lexington)

Harris (Excalibur)

Ron Tracey (Exeter)

 

Another crowd of lucky winners.

Lee, thats a great list of skippers from Season 2!

I had in mind Stone from the first season and Chandra and Krasnovsky. Ramart was on my list too. So all good catches.

I also had Captain Merickus on my list, and Tracy. Bad captains! The Captains of the ships in The Ultimate Computer were on my list.

Scott, I had considered Jones's ship for this. And then I thought, it was a private ship, so I thought it didn't belong. Spock being in Command of the Galileo I hadn't considered. But he did have a crew and it was a Federation vessel. I'm on the fence on that one. I figured John Gil was dropped off on the planet and didn't go there himself. But I am speculating. He could have flown a scout ship there. Sevrin was a crackhead and typhoid carrier, so I didn't have him on my list.

So here's who we have so far. Quite an impressive list, some misfits as Lee has pointed out, and dedicated sound Captains too. And kinda cool that we get a sense of so many other ships in the Fleet, yet we didn't see most of them! The Astral Queen is never seen, nor is the Antares until the Remastered.

James Kirk (Enterprise)
Christopher Pike (Enterprise)
Ramart (Antares)
Jon Daily (Astral Queen)
Commodore Stone (Unknown, but he used to command something)
Krasnovsky (Unknown)
Chandra (Unknown)
Matt Decker (Constellation)
R.M. Merik (Beagle)
Garrovick (Farragut)
Bob Wesley (Lexington)
Harris (Excalibur)
Ron Tracey (Exeter)

Not many captains running around the third year. The only one I could remember was Captain Garth.

 

Scott, Merik was captain of the S.S. Beagle, so he definitely makes the list. I assume Gill was just dropped off on Ekos. Interesting idea about Lt. Harold on Cestus III. I assumed he was stationed there from all his "we" dialogue. Do you think he was just visiting at the wrong time?

I didn't know Harold was Harold's name!

In thinking about his dialogue, he does say things to lead me to believe he's been stationed at Cestus 3 a while. He speaks about ships that come by every now and then.

Captain Garth is another of the unfortunate Captains to join the rogue list.

I'm watching TAS now. It's really hard for me. I've recently seen Yesteryear and Beyond The Farthest Star. So I've recently seen The Infinite Vulcan, The Terratin Incident, The Time Trap, The Ambergris Element and The Slaver Weapon. The stories aren't half bad most of the time. But the execution is killing me. It was cool when I was a kid. But it hard to watch. The character designs and hardware designs, the limited animation, etc.

What I am noticing this time around are the voices. It's interesting to hear Doohan and Nichols 4 years later, they sound a little different. More themselves, especially Nichols. Takei sounds the same, though sometimes more animated, if you'll excuse the use of that word. Same with Kelley. If the stories that Shatner tell of them not always recording together are true, then it explains the acting. I can see it being hard to react when the other person isn't there. But some of the other characters are obviously voiced by Doohan, Nichols and Barrett. But I never noticed before that sometimes someone sounds like Stanley Adams, doing someone other then Cyrano Jones.