Star Trek Trivia (Series and Films) - Page 40

This is a real hard one, I'm stumped! I need a clue.

 

On this same vein, there is an item on the set of Mr. Brigg's apartment in the Mission: Impossible pilot. It plays a prominent role in TOS. It's not the exact item, as more then one of them existed and was used in both productions.

Okay. It's something Dr. Smith probably never used.

Hmm, that clue is still not helping me! Are you sure this prop was used on TOS? :)

As I recall the kinds of things Dr. Smith wouldn't do, it was pretty much a lot given his delicate back.

I was going to guess a laser, but that can't be it. The hand props I think were very unique to Star Trek.

But I have to admit, I don't know LiS anywhere as well as Star Trek. I might consult some prop collecting friends who might have an idea.

Pretty darn sure. I don't think it's ever been written about because either nobody else has spotted it, or nobody wants to admit something from LIS was used on Trek.

 

It's much bigger than a breadbox, and likely only ended up being available for TOS to use after LIS was canceled.

I was checking when LiS last aired on wikipedia, which was March 1968. So that means that this prop was used in the third season of Star Trek.

 

Could the props have been in the lab set of the Vians? Those large set pieces, the large display? Now that I think about it, those had a LiS feel to them. And the Vians themselves had a LiS feel to them!

You're getting hot!

So is the prop the glass tubes that Linke and Ozaba and the 3 others for Kirk, Spock and McCoy the prop you refer to? They are the same tubes or perhaps similar tubes they used on the Juptier 2 during the launch sequence?

 

 

Yes. They are one and the same. The floor panels in them light up, and you can spot those panels in "The Empath".

They did try to disguise them though.

 

 

Check out the screencaps over at Trekcore.

 

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=36&page=6

 

 

The "freezing tubes" as they were called on LIS, remained on the Jupiter 2 flight deck throughout the series, although they ended up part of other sets at times. One third season episode I watched on hulu the other night carefully avoids shooting the side of the Jupiter 2 the tubes are on, to avoid anyone catching on that the aliens making evil duplicates of the Robinsons are using the exact same props.

Well Bill, I'm amazed to see this. That image you post of Guy Williams and June Lockhart in the tube sure looks like the same prop! I can see a slight variance on the height of the tube cap above to those on The Empath. Probably they were altered slightly. And the ring around the base was removed on Trek.

 

I still can't believe it! I knew the set people at Trek were tight on budgets. They found whatever they could use and got lucky over at 20th Century Fox's dumpsters! Or maybe the guys at LiS called and asked if the guys at Trek could use them!

If you've ever seen the TOS skit SNL did in '75, there is a line about selling the Enterprise sets to Lost In Space.

 

My understanding is that a lot of consoles and props ended up in a prop rental warehouse. A dedicated fan got his hands on enough of the Jupiter 2 hardware to rebuild part of the set in his basement!

http://www.alphacontrol.com/lockhart.htm

 

The fate of the Freezing Tubes is unknown. I think I saw them in a couple 70's shows that have not seen the light of day since.

 

Irwin Allen (or someone at Fox) must have been at an auction selling off old military hardware back in the day. I went on a tour of Vandenburg AFB in the late 80's, and a lot of the decaying hardware in a couple of the old missle launch control facilities looked just like the blinking consoles we saw in all of Allen's series.

Yeah Bill, I did see that SNL! 

 

I've also been studying info on the phaser and communicator props. I know, based on some research work done by some friends that some of those ended up at a prop rental house too. They are in private collections now.

 

Thanks for the link to the alpha control site. That guy was pretty lucky to find all the bits to recreate part of that Jupiter II control area. It's interesting the difference in approach between Star Trek and Lost in Space. Trek tried to create a stylized look where nearly 90% of everything we see is custom made, while Allen productions used existing hardware where they could.

No problem, Nelson. I'm surprised it was still around. Most of the other cool LIS sites I bookmarked years ago seem to have vanished.

 

I don't know if it was a conscious thing with Irwin Allen, but nearly all his shows were set in the near future as opposed to TOS, which was at least a couple centuries ahead even before they nailed the specific time down. LIS was certainly taking some cues from NASA when the space pod mysteriously appeared in season three.

 

I'm a bit surprised that leftovers from TOS didn't end up in other productions. We've all seen how costumes and props from Forbidden Planet ended up in everything from The Twilight Zone to cheesy movies like "Queen of Outer Space".

Thanks, Ockeghem. It's fun to play "spot the recycled sets and props" especially with Irwin Allen shows.

 

For some reason I never saw the first season of LIS until the mid 80's. I don't know if they simply were not syndicated before that, or there was some silly bias against black and white eras of a show that had more episodes in color. I had the same dilemma with "I Dream of Jeannie" and "Bewitched" before Nick at Nite came along.

Guys, I do remember seeing the B&W Lost in Space episodes in syndication. But the more I think about it, perhaps it wasn't as prevalent as the color ones. I do have a strong memory of seeing them in the early 70's. Not as clear in my mind as Star Trek of course. I think they aired at 4 in the afternoon.

What I remember the most of the B&W ones are the pilot, and the first 3 or so episodes and Mr. Nobody, yes! The first 3 or 4 episodes were like one long cliffhanger! It always struck me that those first episodes were the best and the entire first year was much stronger. I've never had LiS on any home video format. So I may look into getting it.

The other Allen shows I remember seeing regular rotation was Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and Land of the Giants to a lesser degree. Voyage and LiS were the 2 big ones.

I fear if I pick the up LIS DVD sets now, Fox will announce Blu Ray versions the following day. I still drool over those beautifully packaged Japanese Laserdisc box sets once in a while. (Chock full of photos and blueprints.) Wish I could afford them.

 

I was thinking up another brainteaser, but I can't come up with a definitive answer, so maybe we can all fill in the blanks on this one. Name all the movies TOS has appeared in. (That is, being watched on tv by characters in a non Trek film.) I'll throw out the one's I know about if this gets too obscure.

I guess Crimson Tide doesn't count?

I didn't know about that one. Do tell?

I hate to spoil the scene.

The movie is about a nuclear submarine and the conflict between the captain and the XO. A crisis situation occurs and the sub receives orders to prepare to launch the nukes. But the communications they receive is not verified, due to some communications breakdown. The XO, played by Denzel Washington disagrees with the Captain played by Gene Hackman. The captain doesn't question the orders and wants to launch, while the XO needs to be sure. He sets up a mutiny and needs to convince one sailor to repair the radio so they can get confirmation to launch. The sailor is not confident he can fix it. The XO says, look, you know Star Trek? To the sailor. He says yeah. The XO says I'm the captain and you're Scotty. I need you to repair the ship! The sailor says, okay captain.....blah, blah. It's a pretty well done sequence! You should check it out!

Boomerang with Eddie Murphy. He's watching Star Trek with his date and tells her he knows everything about Star Trek. You know Mr. Spock's last name? It's Jenkins. Spock Jenkins, of the Jenkins boys of Vulcan.

 

Great scene; Murphy is apparently a big fan. (And was considered for ST:IV.)

 

Must have been your local stations.

 

I've watched all those shows thoughout the early 70s into the 80s in both their B/W and color seasons on our local stations.  "Gilligan's Island" too.  Many in the afternoons after school... along with Star Trek.
 

I did see the BW Gilligan's Island back in the day. Although my memory of it is that it was shown at different times than the color episodes.

 

I'm going to start listing the TOS appearances I know of if nobody has any others they recall?

Bill, I sure don't know any!

 

In the mean time, I'm sort of out of TOS questions, so since I'm watching TNG on and off recently, here's one from there;

 

Data's Day is a fun episode with a more serious B story. 

 

1. What was Ambassador T'Pel's mission? What was her real mission?

 

2. What is Dr. Crusher's secret?

 

3. Who does Data turn to in unravelling the mystery of T'Pel's accident?

 

extra credit: What is T'Pel's "other" name?

I remember the good doctor's secret, but will let someone else answer.

 

In the meantime, here are the TOS movie appearances I know of. Feel free to add to the list.

 

Taps (1981)

 

Koyaanisqatsi (1982)

(Blink and you'll miss it, unless you go frame by frame!)

 

Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey (1991)

(Shatner gets a cast credit too.)

 

Boomerang (1992)

(Thanks to Sam for mentioning this one.)

 

Coneheads (1993)

It's been quiet recently.

 

Since no one chimed in, the answer to the question I posted above is:

 

1. T'Pel's mission was to negotiate peace with the Romulans. When in fact she was really a Romulan spy disguised as a Vulcan.

 

2. Dr, Crusher's secret is she was known as the Dancing Doctor.

 

3. Data use the techniques of Sherlock Holmes to deduce the mystery of T'Pel.

 

4. T'Pel's real Romulan name is Selok.

 

I think my favorite scene is Brent Spiner dancing and trying to smile!

And on another note, because of my occupation, i am interested in seeing floorplan layouts and blueprints of the actual sound stages used to film Star Trek.

 

I knew from the past that the Next Generation reused sets of the TOS films. What I had not realized too clearly before was how little they actually changed the TOS film sets for the TNG series. I found a webpage that documents the historic sound stages used to film Star Trek from the 1960's onward.

 

What surprised me the most was how little the plan layout of the soundstages changed. You could probably tell some stuff used in Star Trek The Motion picture shows up in TNG. But you have to really look for it. But when you look at the floor plans, the main corridor, engineering set, transporter room and sickbay are all in the same locations. The redressed or built over the older sets! From Star Trek The Motion Picture all the way through TNG, Voyager, Enterprise and the TNG films.

 

This is given more clarity in the audio commentary and interviews on the various supplements on Star Trek DVD and blu rays with Michael Okuda that as the sets for Enterprise were struck, they could see all the older elements underneath from earlier productions. 

 

Quite amazing. Data's quarters which were redressed for Worf and others was originally Kirk's quarters in TMP! You can see it in the wall panels. Next time you watch, look closely!

I'm not sure if a question is running, but here's my trivia for you: name the ship in the Voy Season 6 menus!

 

 

 

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