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Originally Posted by ZacharyTait
The Digital Bits announced today that on August 26th, Warner Brothers will release NFL Greatest Games Series: Denver Broncos, NFL Great Game Series: Green Bay Packers and NFL Greatest Games Series: Detroit Lions. One of these do not belong. Would that set be just 1 game or what?
Perhaps it's not football, but coverage of a spirited locker room game of Go Fish!
post #92 of 158

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The Digital Bits announced today that on August 26th, Warner Brothers will release NFL Greatest Games Series: Denver Broncos, NFL Great Game Series: Green Bay Packers and NFL Greatest Games Series: Detroit Lions. One of these do not belong. Would that set be just 1 game or what?

Well, nobody said the featured team wins the game......
post #93 of 158

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It appears there is an NFC east battle taking place currently between the Eagles and Cowboys for the services of Roy Williams of Detroit. Sources say the Eagles are offering this years first and second or this years first and next years first. The Cowboys are allegedly mulling over to offer the Lions both first round picks this year. Only Millen can screw this up if true.
post #94 of 158

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Originally Posted by Brandon_T
It appears there is an NFC east battle taking place currently between the Eagles and Cowboys for the services of Roy Williams of Detroit. Sources say the Eagles are offering this years first and second or this years first and next years first. The Cowboys are allegedly mulling over to offer the Lions both first round picks this year. Only Millen can screw this up if true.

I think that this would be a great deal for the Lions. Don't get me wrong, I really like Williams, but lets be honest the Lions are a team that needs a lot of help if they are ever going to be true contenders and that is still a ways off. The problem is that it is a great deal if the Lions draft well. We all know how that has been working out for them.
post #95 of 158

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Did they even tape or film the games back when the Lions were good?

Sure. There was just no sound back then.
post #96 of 158
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Originally Posted by DavidJ
I think that this would be a great deal for the Lions. Don't get me wrong, I really like Williams, but lets be honest the Lions are a team that needs a lot of help if they are ever going to be true contenders and that is still a ways off. The problem is that it is a great deal if the Lions draft well. We all know how that has been working out for them.

Your last sentences are key, David. Matt Millen has proven time and again that he cannot draft well. On paper this would be a fine deal for the Lions, but in practice we'll probably end up with a couple more draft pick busts.

In other news, the Dolphins have signed Michigan OT Jake Long, thereby making him the #1 pick in this weekend's draft.
post #97 of 158

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Seahawks cut ex-MVP running back Alexander - SI.com - 2008 NFL Draft

Will the Lions make a run at him?
post #98 of 158

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
Your last sentences are key, David. Matt Millen has proven time and again that he cannot draft well. On paper this would be a fine deal for the Lions, but in practice we'll probably end up with a couple more draft pick busts.

True, but if there is any good time to be an optimistic Lions fan the off-season would be it. Doesn't the law of averages come in to play here? Surely he'll hit on some of these picks eventually.

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In other news, the Dolphins have signed Michigan OT Jake Long, thereby making him the #1 pick in this weekend's draft.

I'm happy for Jake Long. I loved watching him play at Michigan and this year and said a lot about his character. Probably the last Wolverine we'll see for a long time at the top or near the top of the draft.
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Jake Long's dad worked at my company, last week he submitted his retirement papers.





Crawdaddy
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He grew up about 30 minutes from me, next county over. Always heard he was going to be good and seems much more humble than another local guy, Dave Kircus. Always nice to see some local kids do well and get paid!

I think the whole situation with Chad Johnson is quite amusing and I am very interested to see how it shakes out.

Draft day is always a big day at my house, friends, burgers, beer, bratwurst and all the fixins. Can't wait.
post #101 of 158
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I'm happy for Jake Long. I loved watching him play at Michigan and this year and said a lot about his character. Probably the last Wolverine we'll see for a long time at the top or near the top of the draft.

I think Long will be a solid pro for a long time, too. My only concern was watching him struggle against Gholston in the OSU game. He will be facing that type of competition every week in the NFL.
post #102 of 158

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So while Long shines as the #1 pick Boren slinks off to Ohio State. I can't imagine the amount of grief he's going to get from his new teammates. Hopefully Coach Tressel won't make him run so much.

But back to the NFL. I'm somewhat surprised by the local coverage of the Shaun Alexander story. Everyone knew it was coming after the new RBs were picked up but no one seems all that sorry to see him go. This is one cruel, cutthroat business.
post #103 of 158

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So while Long shines as the #1 pick Boren slinks off to Ohio State. I can't imagine the amount of grief he's going to get from his new teammates. Hopefully Coach Tressel won't make him run so much.

But back to the NFL. I'm somewhat surprised by the local coverage of the Shaun Alexander story. Everyone knew it was coming after the new RBs were picked up but no one seems all that sorry to see him go. This is one cruel, cutthroat business.

Is there not a current college thread? I looked, but couldn't find one. I'd like to discuss this Boren deal more ( ) and not on the crazy, immature team forums at places like Scout and Rivals.

Will the Lions make a run at Alexander? I'm guessing no and even if they did I'm sure Alexander could come up with better options.
post #104 of 158

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Shaun who??? haha kidding.

He seems very prone to injury now, I'm not sure what team would suit him. I don't think he's worthy of starting anymore, it's like he lost the fire.
post #105 of 158
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Will the Lions make a run at Alexander? I'm guessing no and even if they did I'm sure Alexander could come up with better options.

I do not see any way that Alexander winds up with Detroit. The Lions have salary cap issues, and Alexander probably wants to play for a contender at this point in his career.
post #106 of 158

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Kalimba Edwards $4 Million comes off the books as of June 1st as do a couple of other small salaries.

Local beat writer Tom Kawalski says there is a 1% chance the Lions trade Roy Williams. He seems to be wrong more than right, so I bump it up to 50%. Before the draft I will post who I think the Lions should get. What players would you like for your teams to draft at their slots this Saturday?
post #107 of 158

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Man, I wish I actually got to watch and follow the draft Saturday. My wife loves it and we always have it on, but I have a rare weekend shoot that begins the same time as the draft. Oh, well. I guess I'll have to be disappointed by the Lions' picks later.

I like Williams so I won't be upset by him remaining a Lion, but I'm really not sure it is the best thing for the long-term health of the franchise.

So who does everyone think will go second? Who gets Ryan? Watching where the QBs go should be interesting as there seems to be quite a few teams looking for one and four QBs who have separated themselves from the pack.
post #108 of 158
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Ryan will probably end up in either Atlanta, KC or Chicago. Personally, I think the Falcons should pass on Ryan and take one of the defensive linemen -- Long, Dorsey or Gholston -- at #3. They can get a QB close to Ryan's potential in the 2nd round.

My fear with the Lions is that they will take RB Jonathan Stewart. He fits two Millen criteria -- he's an offensive skill position player and he has an injury history. Detroit needs to pick either OL, DL or LB in the first round. Of course, they could have filled two of those spots last year had they drafted intelligently.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions trade Roy Williams, either. I think they'll lose him to free agency after this season anyway, so they may as well get something for him now. The team is not going to contend for a playoff spot in '08 anyhow.
post #109 of 158

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Originally Posted by Brandon_T
What players would you like for your teams to draft at their slots this Saturday?

What really sucks about winning the Super Bowl is that you get a crummy draft pick. Though actually, last year the Giants did well in the draft, even in the later rounds (Kevin Boss, Ahmad Bradshaw).

The consensus seems to be the Giants will go for the safety from Miami (Phillips) to replace Gibril Wilson, though they could also go for an OLB. In Dr Z's mock draft, he picked them to go for a TE, presumably after trading Shockey.
post #110 of 158

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
Ryan will probably end up in either Atlanta, KC or Chicago. Personally, I think the Falcons should pass on Ryan and take one of the defensive linemen -- Long, Dorsey or Gholston -- at #3. They can get a QB close to Ryan's potential in the 2nd round.

My fear with the Lions is that they will take RB Jonathan Stewart. He fits two Millen criteria -- he's an offensive skill position player and he has an injury history. Detroit needs to pick either OL, DL or LB in the first round. Of course, they could have filled two of those spots last year had they drafted intelligently.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions trade Roy Williams, either. I think they'll lose him to free agency after this season anyway, so they may as well get something for him now. The team is not going to contend for a playoff spot in '08 anyhow.

I'd be surprised if the Falcons pass on Ryan, but I don't disagree with your thinking. The one thing that gives me hope for the Lions is Marinelli's comments about not trying to hit home runs with the picks, but trying to get solid players that fill needs. The question is whether Millen will let that happen. I was reading through the picks under his watch and it is pretty disheartening. Great point about Williams and free agency. I agree 100%.

Oh, and Marvin I'm sure we are all feeling real sorry for you and the Giants.
post #111 of 158

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I think KC takes Gholston and the Falcons take Ryan for sure. McFadden will be snapped up by Oakland. I think the Jets would pass on him if he fell because they have historically passed on good players with character issues.
post #112 of 158

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Originally Posted by Brandon_T
..McFadden will be snapped up by Oakland. I think the Jets would pass on him if he fell because they have historically passed on good players with character issues.

Ahh..so that's why they passed on Dan Marino back in '83 (and took Ken O'Brien instead).
post #113 of 158

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I'm coming up for air. In between my usual website work and actually more of that than usual lately due to a partner relocating to a new home, I have been following the NFL draft, start of baseball season and the NBA playoffs. I still plan to live blog the draft this weekend.

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In other news, the Dolphins have signed Michigan OT Jake Long, thereby making him the #1 pick in this weekend's draft.

You guys think you're so smart suggesting Jake Long will be a good player. I don't see what's so good about him. The Miami fans aren't gonna love the way he returns punts because he doesn't even return punts. /Cam Cameron.
post #114 of 158

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Guys, Guys, Guys, we all know that Matt Millen will take a wide receiver with the 1st round pick. After all, he's done so well with those in the past!

Seriously, 6 to 5 and pick 'em. They have so many needs that I don't know where to start.
post #115 of 158

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I'm leaning toward Jared Mayo, the LB out of Tenn. That fits a big need and I just like what the kid brings. I DO NOT want Harvey, the DE from Florida, nor do I want a running back, unless McFadden would miraculously fall to the Lions. For me its either offensive line or LB in the first round.
post #116 of 158

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For me its either offensive line or LB in the first round

Ok, that's quite enough about what you want, now tell us...when Matt Millen takes Mario Manningham...
post #117 of 158

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An unconfirmed trade (stay tuned):

Shockey traded? A deal might be in place with Saints (Around the NFL)
post #118 of 158

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun

Doesn't sound very definite...
post #119 of 158
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Doesn't sound very definite...

It definitely doesn't sound definite. If the Giants are looking for more than a 2nd round pick, they will not be trading Shockey. I doubt any team would give up just a 2nd rounder for him. They should take the Saints offer of a 3rd round pick and run.
post #120 of 158

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
It definitely doesn't sound definite. If the Giants are looking for more than a 2nd round pick, they will not be trading Shockey. I doubt any team would give up just a 2nd rounder for him. They should take the Saints offer of a 3rd round pick and run.

If that's all the Saints are offering, I'd hold on to Shockey. They would need to use a high draft choice to take another tight end if they trade him. Unless they think there'll a better tight end than Shockey available in the 2nd or 3rd round, I'd want a better offer before trading him.
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