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post #91 of 158
Re: DVD Profiler, the easy (display-only) way to do it is via the Filters function.  Not only does it work for Owned, Ordered, and Wish List, but there's already a Formats tab built in, and if you want to further separate by Genre, there's a tab for that too.  That works well enough for me.  Unfortunately, Invelos has done little to nothing to modernize the web interface with even basic filters.  That would be nice, but not having a lot of web database coding experience, I'm not sure if that's out of laziness or problems with server/bandwidth loads.


As for how I organize, it's Blu-rays on top shelves and DVDs on the bottom shelves in generic bookcase-like media storage.  Special packaging (i.e., Freaks & Geeks Yearbook, Battlestar Galactica Complete Series, etc.) goes on top of the shelving.  As of right now, it's about 55 BD:45 DVD in terms of shelf space, and I'm pretty much out of room.  With the Q4 rush coming--I've got 30 BDs on my pre-order list in September alone--I'm considering giving the BDs their own shelving by moving my DVDs in with my music and games, where there's plenty of space.

post #92 of 158


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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

Here I go derailing my own thread...    But, I really think the way collector's have their stuff organized on paper (or PC) goes a long way towards how they are arranged on shelf, etc. 

That is awesome description!  Thanks for including it.  I meant to ask how you did it...but I was going to fire up Profiler (which I haven't done in a while) to see if I could figure it out myself first.  I'm not sure I would have. 

Is you HD stuff on the shelf separate for storage purposes (height of shelves) or because you just like having the HD material located separately from the SD?
I just like keeping the HD stuff separate. 



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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong View Post
However, doing it this way won't work so well for the hosted web version, no?  The hosted web display doesn't nicely break up the "box sets" in the same way, but merely lists the box set titles just like any other title.  And it doesn't even make sure to keep all the items w/in the set listed together, AFAIK.

For instance, I've found that I needed to change the sort version of the title name (which is probably what Mike's thinking for his "key word") for box set contents in order to force all the titles w/in the set to show up properly on the web side -- I've also done it to sort the titles w/in the set the way I like it, eg. chronological w/in a movie franchise set in most cases.

For myself, a main part of the reason for doing this at all is the web side presentation because I often lend out movies to friends and family -- and it'd be nice to quickly/easily separate the BDs from the DVDs for them, especially since most of them don't have a BD player yet.  But yeah, it'd also be nice to quickly/easily categorize them like you have.  Too bad the Invelos/DVD Profiler folks haven't gotten around to improving their web presentation at all over the years (or so it seems).

_Man_
I haven't used the web version of Profiler, so I really don't know if this method will work.

post #93 of 158
Mix my BD's with my standards and deprive myself of the vision of all that pretty blue all lined up on my shelf? Pish posh.


post #94 of 158


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Originally Posted by Porfirio View Post




Yes they are... with the exception of the HD stuff, they are mixed in together. Here are the simple steps to create categories in DVD Profiler:

To create Categories and Sub-Categories:

 

  1. Click on Add DVD to collection

     

  2. Select the Add by Title tab

     

  3. Uncheck Download profile from Invelos option  (keep Prompt for personalization checked)

     

  4. Fill in the Title: field with the desired category or sub-category name

     

  5. Click on Add DVD

     

  6. The Edit Profile window will pop up. Just fill in the desired info, click OK and repeat steps 2–6; or click on Add Now to Owned

     

 

 

To add titles to Categories:

 

  1. Open the desired category

     

  2. Add titles (or sub-categoris) by using the Box Set Contents option

     




What happens to real box sets under this scenario? I did not think that DVD Profiler allowed for nesting of box sets within other box sets.

post #95 of 158
Scott, you can add box sets to any "category" or "sub-category" without it affecting the real sets.


post #96 of 158
LDs, SDs, HDDVDs, then BDs.
post #97 of 158
I put everything alphabetically, with HD-DVD and BD mixed in.
post #98 of 158

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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong View Post

Oh, BTW, I also started organizing my collection on DVD Profiler so that it's easier/quicker to separate the BDs from the DVDs.  Basically, I now use the collection # for this although I don't have my system perfected yet because I started doing it a bit late.  I've set it up so that the lower numbered titles are BDs (and sorted by title name) and the higher numbered ones (above 300 for now) are DVDs (and also sorted by title name).

There is barely enough functionality in the PC-based app to help make this manageable.  Ideally, I'd probably have one subcollection or the other numbered above 1000 since I don't expect to ever own that many of each at the same time (and the extra digit would make for nicer organization/browsing/etc), but unfortunately, the software doesn't make it easy to move/shift an entire subcollection up into the much higher collection # range -- and I had decided to organize them this way a bit late.  It's easy enough to shift them up a handful slots, but not several hundred.   Hopefully, the folks at Invelos will make it much easier/quicker to systematically change the collection #s -- would help if they allowed importing from XML, not just exporting to it, so I could just do a systematic edit outside the app.

_Man_
 

For anyone interested, I found a way to workaround that collection #s issue.  Downloaded and installed the BulkEdit plug-in (thru www.invelos.com/Downloads.aspx), which allows bulk editing of flagged titles.  Used that to clear all the collection #s for my DVDs -- filter down to DVD format only and then flag just them before applying the clear collection #s function that's added by the plug-in.  After that, reassign collection #s for all titles w/ no collection #s (ie. all the DVDs) into the range above 1000 (or more precisely, do not reassign the range below 1001, where my BDs are assigned) ... and voila!

Didn't run into any problems w/ it, and haven't tried any other functions/features added by the plug-in yet.  But if you want to try it, you should be sure to backup your collection database first before doing so (as the plug-in warns).

_Man_
post #99 of 158
 I switched to a Mac a few months ago. I was going to run Windows on my Mac so i could keep my Profiler. Well, i hate how Windows slowed my Mac. Plus worried what Windows might do to my Mac.

Bottom line, im not using Windows on my Mac, and i miss my Profiler.  :(

Thanks for opening that wound again Man!  :)
post #100 of 158
Thread Starter 
Guess it's time for Rick to "unsubscribe." 

That's sad.

A "bulk edit" plug-in?!?  I wish I had that time that you must have!  I haven't even updated my collection in many, many months! 

Maybe it's time for me to unsubscribe--from my own thread!    Nope.  I was just telling my wife at dinner tonight that I need a little "me" time to re-organize my home office area and get back on track with some personal projects like my DVD Profiler.  
post #101 of 158


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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post
 I need a little "me" time to re-organize my home office area and get back on track with some personal projects like my DVD Profiler.  

Noooooooooooo!!!!

Lucky!
I told my wife i wanted to buy a cheap Windows laptop so i could run my Profiler again.

Only id be so far behind...

Nooooooooooooo!!!!
post #102 of 158
Thread Starter 
Just because I told her I need a little "me" time...certainly doesn't mean I'm going to get it! 
post #103 of 158
Rick (and Mike),

Just get one of them netbooks.  Then you can do your profiler stuff anytime, anywhere!  

Actually, I usually end up just doing that stuff on my work machine -- and I'm in front of a computer most of the day.  It's really not bad if you keep up w/ it regularly (and aren't too picky about the details )...

_Man_
post #104 of 158
You do realize that there is a "sort by" feature under the "collection" menu in DVD Profiler which allows you to sort your collection by media type?  I simply do this with my collection, and all my BD's appear first (in alphabetical order of title), followed by the SD-DVD's.


post #105 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield View Post

You do realize that there is a "sort by" feature under the "collection" menu in DVD Profiler which allows you to sort your collection by media type?  I simply do this with my collection, and all my BD's appear first (in alphabetical order of title), followed by the SD-DVD's.

But that's not how your discs appear on your shelf, Scott...

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I have over 1000 SD-DVD titles and about 50 BD titles. I just mix the BD with the SD discs, sorted first by genre and then alphabetically.

Wouldn't it be better to have the discs show up in Profiler the same way they appear on your shelf? 

Maybe I don't understand the various features of Priofiler well enough to get it to do what I'd like.  I need more "me" time... 

post #106 of 158
I have my Blu-Rays sitting in their own space

and 100s of DVD movies jammed in everywhere else, except for DVD TV Box-sets which get their own space to not confuse them with the DVD movies
post #107 of 158


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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post


But that's not how your discs appear on your shelf, Scott...


Wouldn't it be better to have the discs show up in Profiler the same way they appear on your shelf? 

Maybe I don't understand the various features of Priofiler well enough to get it to do what I'd like.  I need more "me" time... 
 

Personally, I do not need my collection in DVD Profiler to reflect how I have the titles organized on my shelves. I organize titles on the shelves based on genre, which makes it easy for us to browse the collection if we are in the mood for a particular genre. However, if I feel like watching a BD for whatever reason, I can always fire up Profiler and see the BD's listed first. It works for me.

post #108 of 158

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield View Post

You do realize that there is a "sort by" feature under the "collection" menu in DVD Profiler which allows you to sort your collection by media type?  I simply do this with my collection, and all my BD's appear first (in alphabetical order of title), followed by the SD-DVD's.

 

But unfortunately, there is nothing like that for the hosted web presentation version of it, which was a large part of the reason for organizing the collection using collection #s.  On the web side, all you can do is sort by title name or collection #.  Also, organizing the collection #s to reflect media format would make it easier to determine format at a quick glance even when the collection is sorted by some other order (like title name).

If it were easy enough to manipulate collection #s, I might even bother to assign them based on genre too to be more like how I physically arrange them at home.   Actually, maybe I will try that at some point now that I can do more w/ that BulkEdit plug-in -- maybe then, it'll look more like a library of titles w/ well-organized collection #s.

FWIW, part of the reason the web presentation matters to me (and indeed, part of the reason to use any such software at all) is to make it easier for family and friends to browse thru my collection and see what they might wish to borrow.  And using collection #s for this purpose makes a big difference for the extremely limited web presentation -- heck, even I won't feel as much need to fire up the PC app itself, if I'm not planning to update anything.

_Man_
post #109 of 158


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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong View Post





FWIW, part of the reason the web presentation matters to me (and indeed, part of the reason to use any such software at all) is to make it easier for family and friends to browse thru my collection and see what they might wish to borrow.  And using collection #s for this purpose makes a big difference for the extremely limited web presentation -- heck, even I won't feel as much need to fire up the PC app itself, if I'm not planning to update anything.

_Man_

That's where we differ, Man. I decided quite a few years ago that I didn't want to run a video rental endeavor with my private collection. There are only a couple of people that I loan discs to -- people I trust to take care of them and return them promptly.
post #110 of 158
Thread Starter 


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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield View Post

That's where we differ, Man. I decided quite a few years ago that I didn't want to run a video rental endeavor with my private collection. There are only a couple of people that I loan discs to -- people I trust to take care of them and return them promptly.

Boy...that's exactly where I am.  I've got one acquaintance who has had one of my discs for more than a year now.  I just asked for it back (so I could could loan it to someone else--within my "inner circle").  The fella actually responded that he "still wanted to watch it...but that he would get it back to me soon."  Its been more than a year! 

I still take the occasional risk with someone new.  But it's a service I do NOT promote.  That sounds like a whole 'nother thread topic! 

So, I try to keep my Profiler up-to-date simply so I can use it  to track those discs which are out from the collection and so they can be easily found when necessary. 

post #111 of 158
My problem w/ people not returning movies is w/ close relatives like my brother -- and he doesn't go on the web at all AFAIK.   Ironically(?), people to whom I'd lend movies w/ the aid of the Profiler's web presentation (and who would not visit my home regularly) are actually far more likely to return them at a reasonable pace -- or they would at least not be borrowing a whole lot otherwise.

FWIW, I buy movies not just so I can watch them for myself (in my limited spare time), but so I can also share them w/ others I personally know, whether family or friends.  And in the end, they are really just things anyway that are only as good as they are useful (and entertaining) to us -- even though I do have a fair bit of the enthusiast and collector's mentality that both drive me to treat them as more than just utilitarian items.

And honestly, although I've lost a fair few DVDs over the years (mainly to my brother ), if I consider it some, they really aren't worth all *that* much now anyway.  I can barely sell one for $2-3 in a stoop sale now while replacing it w/ a BD upgrade (or not at all, if I don't really like it enough).  But yeah, I'm gonna be more careful about lending any BDs out though -- well, so far, I don't personally know more than one person who has the gear for BDs anyway (and my brother isn't one of them yet ), but then again, that was the case (for DVD) back in the early days of DVD too...

_Man_
post #112 of 158
Thread Starter 
I've actually made the decision of whether or not to buy the BD or DVD of a release based on whether or not other members of my family might be borrowing it in the future. 

The Office: Season 5, for example.  I didn't see that having The Office in HD was enough of a plus to outweigh the downside that my son & daughter don't have BD capabilities and are going to want to borrow those discs sometime. 
post #113 of 158
I won't lend a BD to anyone

and I have stopped lending DVD to friends and colleagues because I am fed up with either losing track of what has been lent out (do you end up writing it down?), or waiting weeks or sometimes months for them to get round to watching the movie and returning the disc

like a previous poster mentioned, I also buy movies for my own personal use, and I place a big emphasis on being able to put my hands on any movie in my collection, at any time, if the mood takes me...

nothing worse than going to watch a movie and realising its not there :(

if anyone wants to come round to my house, I am more than happy for them to choose any movie in the collection and watch it with me :)
post #114 of 158
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately, yes, I have gotten to the point where I write down what's on loan. 

And I don't lend all that much either--mostly just to immediate family.  But on the couple of occasions this past year where I have have tested the waters and loaned discs to friends...I am have extremely disappointed. 

But, if enough time goes by (and I think a year qualifies) I could see forgetting if I had loaned a disc.  Our lives are full.  I had another disc out to someone else for three or four months. 
post #115 of 158
I've had a couple of discs loaned out to a friend of mine since January.  It kind of upsets me; but I remind myself that his friendship is worth a lot more than a couple of hunks of plastic.

On the other hand, he hasn't asked for any other loaners. 

- Walter.
post #116 of 158
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

I've actually made the decision of whether or not to buy the BD or DVD of a release based on whether or not other members of my family might be borrowing it in the future. 

The Office: Season 5, for example.  I didn't see that having The Office in HD was enough of a plus to outweigh the downside that my son & daughter don't have BD capabilities and are going to want to borrow those discs sometime. 

It's almost a carrot/stick situation.  My circle of friends and family have invested in Blu-ray (thanks to my demonstrating it, even on their equipment) to enough of an extent that it's not usually a concern in terms of lending.  But it's a rare occurrence for me to lend a movie out anyway that I don't see as an issue.
post #117 of 158
 I lend movies to friends and I've had no issues regarding damaged or lost discs.  It is true they can be lent out for a long time but that is as much my doing as theirs.  I really only have three people to whom I loan movies and I'm careful not to loan something I feel confident I will want to watch within a month's time.  However, I'm more than familiar with loaning other things that come back damaged (or not at all), so I can understand the general reticence.  I guess I've been fortunate with my movie lending so far.
post #118 of 158
I kept BDs and DVDs separate for as long as space allowed...

This weekend I finally mixed them in.  My films are all alphabetized, and I keep TV shows and exclusive sets separate from the 'pack'.  I need more movie storage! 

I have anywhere from 250 to 350 dvds, and so far about 30 blurays.
post #119 of 158
I guess it may also depend on how many one owns.  If you own a lot, there's a good chance you won't miss a certain title too much for quite some time (unless it's one of your top favorites).  Heck, I've even accidentally repurchased a title (at whatever great bargain price) on a couple occasions, not realizing I already owned it (but just haven't gotten around to watching it yet) in part because of that.

I know I certainly own waaaay more than I have time to rewatch each year -- although I originally thought I'd restrict myself to owning no more titles than the number of days in a calendar year (and thought again I might try to w/ BDs this time around).

According to my current Profiler's collection, I own somewhere in the low-to-mid-800's in titles w/ ~300 in the Blu format -- well, some of them are really mainly for my kids, but I generally do not include the ones I would never care to watch even once w/out them (like their Veggie Tales collection or a few Barbie titles for instance ).  And before jumping into BD, I probably owned a comparable size collection of titles (that I lost track) only just in the DVD format -- well, I'm not counting my small-ish collection of dust-collecting LDs since ~99% of them have already been replaced (and my player's been long dead, so won't be watching them anyway).

What I own may seem like a whole lot (to most people), but I still can't really fathom owning the far (order of magnitude) larger collections that at least a few longtime HTF regulars own.

_Man_
post #120 of 158
I have the problem that I want to see the titles I'm lending out, and that's really frustrating. On several occasions I can't figure out what to watch (you think it becomes easier when you're getting more titles, but it's the exact opposite) but when someone wants to borrow a movie, I find out that I want to watch that one. 
But not many people lend titles from me. My family, yes. But we live in the same house, so I can keep an eye on those. For the rest my collection is a mixed bag with region 1 titles people cannot play, titles with no Dutch subs and Blu-rays, so lending them out is already quite limited for most people around.
I think a collection of 800 titles is already pretty big, I have around 400 myself. That's just the fun of this forum, isn't it? 'Well, this person has over 2,000 titles. I don't have that many, so I'm not nearly as addicted as that guy. You see?'
And by the way, my collection number would've been a lot higher if I don't give away most of the dvds I have when I buy the Blu-ray, or the other titles I sold over the years.

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