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Noob needs a little advice

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I'm going to build a HT when I sell my house (I just moved and haven't sold my old house yet). I have some components, but need a new amplifier - mine bit the dust a few months ago, and I decided to wait until I get my new big screen TV.

Here's what my set up would look like:

Inputs to amplifier:

TV Cable
DVR (Tivo)
DVD player
Cassette Deck
Wireless Media Receiver (to grab video, jpgs, and music files from my computer)
VCR

Output to Big screen HD TV (which I don't yet have).


My specific questions:

Are there amplifiers with TV tuners built in, or do I need that? I'd like to take the basic cable I have and get surround sound from the cable to send to my TV. If the amp won't do this, is there any way to capture surround sound from basic cable? If not, then do I have to split the cable and run it to the Tivo and also TV? If I did that, I'd at least get stereo for live TV, right?

Will Basic Cable capture HD TV? I know the standard changes next January, but I've read that if I have basic cable, I don't need to buy new TVs. I'm going to buy a new TV anyway, but am not sure if I have to get digital cable from my Charter provider.

I guess the bottom line is that I'm pretty sure I know how component audio works, but am not exactly sure how video works with an amp.

Any other suggestions would be helpful, too.

Thanks,
carl
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Re: Noob needs a little advice

Lets help you out on the terminology.
Amplifier - amplifies a low level signal. Usually has 1 or 2 inputs and speaker outputs. The only adjustment is the gain.
Pre-amp - A control center. Has inputs for CD, DVD, etc. Sometimes has processing ability like upconverting all video inputs to component and/or HDMI video.
Receiver - Pre-amp with an amplifier section built in.

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Originally Posted by Aintnorock
Are there amplifiers with TV tuners built in,
Not that I have seen.

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Originally Posted by Aintnorock
I'd like to take the basic cable I have and get surround sound from the cable to send to my TV. If the amp won't do this, is there any way to capture surround sound from basic cable? If not, then do I have to split the cable and run it to the Tivo and also TV? If I did that, I'd at least get stereo for live TV, right?
You have a TiVo, why watch live TV? Yes, you can split your cable and run it to both your TV and the TiVo. Connect the audio and video output from the TiVo to your receiver. Your TV should also have an audio output that you can connect to another receiver input. As for surround sound, it depends on your TiVo and cable package. Analog cable will give you nothing more than Dolby Pro Logic surround. If you have an S3 or HD TiVo, then you will get some Dolby Digital from the digital and/or HD channels.

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Will Basic Cable capture HD TV? I know the standard changes next January, but I've read that if I have basic cable, I don't need to buy new TVs. I'm going to buy a new TV anyway, but am not sure if I have to get digital cable from my Charter provider.
Depends on your location. Most cable companies broadcast local channels in the clear in HD. Your TV needs to have a QAM tuner to pick it up. The S3 and HD TiVo's also have QAM tuners but they will not work with in the clear QAM channels since they do not appear in the channel listing provided by the cable company and they are subject to changing frequencies at any time. For an HD or S3 TiVo to work properly you must subscribe to at least the digital tier from your cable company and use one or two cable cards. Your new TV will also be able to tune in OTA digital channels with it's built in ATSC tuner and a proper antenna. If you want that feature as well as cable, then you need to get a TV with separate inputs for each. Most have a single input that requires going to the menu and making the switch and rescanning for channels. That can take 10 to 15 minutes.

The switch from analog to digital TV next February does not impact cable. Only people who use an antenna to receive their TV signals. Cable and satellite providers are making the switch due to market demands for more HD channels. Cable has limited bandwidth on that cable and is working to get rid of analog channels to free up room for digital channels and HD. Satellite companies are putting up more satellites in different locations and making users go with larger and larger dishes. My DirecTV dish now points at 5 satellite locations. It's a lot larger than the little 18" dish I started out with in '97.

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Originally Posted by Aintnorock
I guess the bottom line is that I'm pretty sure I know how component audio works, but am not exactly sure how video works with an amp.
There is no such thing as component audio. There's analog audio (the red and white connections) and there is digital audio (the orange coax connection and the optical connection). Your receiver is just a video switcher. Like I mentioned above, some upconvert composite video or s-video to component video and/or HDMI video.

And I don't like to do this but your question should have gone in the Basics section or the receiver section. The Projects section is where we discuss you basement renovation as a whole. Speaker and screen placement, furnishings, etc. It also covers the DIY crowd like me who build speakers, subs and projector screens. But not that it's here, we can roll from this into discussion of your plans for the basement. TV size, speakers, etc.

-Robert
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