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post #1 of 164
2/14/08 at 10:48am
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Indiana Jones. May. HD DVD.

I trust the source, but I'm still looking for an announcement.
post #2 of 164
2/14/08 at 10:57am

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From an interview with Rob Moore, president of Paramount Worldwide Distribution:
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I then asked when the INDIANA JONES set would hit and if it would be exclusive to HD. Rob responded that on the films that Steven directs, he wants the titles to be available in both formats - so those will be cross-platform titles.
Paramount chooses HD DVD exclusive! -- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.

And another one:
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PARAMOUNT BEKRÆFTER RYGTE

Den er god nok: Steven Spielberg har betinget sig, at Indiana Jones 4 kommer på high definition i Blu-ray version. Hvorvidt den simultant vil udkomme på HD DVD forlyder der ikke noget om.

Source: Efter deadline

Quick translation:

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PARAMOUNT CONFIRMS RUMOR:

It's true: Steven Spielberg has determined himself to releasing "Indiana Jones 4" in a Blu-ray High-definition version. There was no information regarding a simultaneous release coming to HD-DVD. No release date was given.
post #3 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:15am

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Paramount has shown an ability to keep a secret.

If they can get 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' and 'Curse of the Jade Scorpion' out on HD DVD this spring, they might be on to something.
post #4 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:18am
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Well, we'll just have to see what happens, huh JBlacklow.

BTW, according to my source, current plan is for HD DVD only and the titles discussed were the first three films, not the upcoming new installment in the series. Obviously, if Paramount changes their format support before these titles are released, that would affect how these are released. Also, Spielberg's name was brought up and the source specifically pointed out that Spielberg does not control these films, LucasFilm and Paramount do and Paramount controls video release.
post #5 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:21am

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It'd be great if Indiana Jones hit high definition but I'd imagine that at least the first three are years away on either format. MAYBE the fourth one will come out in the fall though.
post #6 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:25am

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Now we all know how reliable internet rumors are... but that said, it had been a long-standing rumor that Spielberg films would be cross-platform, but of course, nothing is final until the product is on the shelves.

I find the thought of an HD-DVD only Indy intriguing. It would considerably up the ante with regards to BD having to release something similarly loved on Blu to counter. Right now there's no real "Killer App" on either side: Star Wars OOT, Indy Trilogy, Godfather Trilogy, Hitchcock's best (Rear Window, Vertigo, Psycho, NxNW), LoTR Trilogy, Spielberg's best (outside of CE3K), etc. all MIA.

It would also be an interesting strategy for Paramount to show they're really behind HD-DVD. With the recent pro-BD news (Netflix, Best Buy) to release something as big as Indy on HD-DVD only would be a bold statement indeed.
post #7 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:30am

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Originally Posted by Robert George
BTW, according to my source, current plan is for HD DVD only and the titles discussed were the first three films, not the upcoming new installment in the series.
Which is why my first link explicitly refers to the first three films.
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Obviously, if Paramount changes their format support before these titles are released, that would affect how these are released. Also, Spielberg's name was brought up and the source specifically pointed out that Spielberg does not control these films, LucasFilm and Paramount do and Paramount controls video release.
I'm going to have to go with Paramount's President of Worldwide Distribution (who, again, explicitly mentions the first three films) instead of your "source" on this one. It would be easier to believe you if

A) You had mentioned the fact that, if anyone controls video, it's Lucasfilm (see also: the new "Star Wars" coming from Warner, not Fox).

B) You had mentioned that Paramount had explicitly mentioned in their own press release as well as interviews that Spielberg-directed films are exempt from their home video deals.

C) I didn't see an agenda in your posting history, as evidenced by the two direct contradictions of your "source" by Paramount executives and Spielberg
post #8 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:44am
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FWIW, my source is a studio source, but I did explicitly state this was not a fact but someing "I heard". That's all I have to say about that. You (Blacklow) can continue with your combative posting until you are, um, blu in the face for all I care.

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B) I didn't see an agenda in your posting history.

Pot? Kettle?
post #9 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:52am

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I certainly intend no offense but it's nearly impossible to believe that info about a release as big as the Indiana Jones trilogy (one of the biggest catalog releases EVER) hasn't leaked out more with only three months until it's released.
post #10 of 164
2/14/08 at 11:53am

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Pot/kettle? You have a hatred of Blu-ray, you used false information about Lucasfilm, and posted an unfounded rumor. As someone who's "hinted" that LOTR would come in June/July 2007, that Paramount was going to go all-out with lossless, and other such nonsense that proved wrong, your information is highly suspect.

Whatever my bias is, I'm using the actual studio sources and existing facts.

FWIW, I think this thread should be closed, since HTF's policy has been to do the same with similar unfounded rumors.
post #11 of 164
2/14/08 at 12:35pm

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Cue John Williams.
post #12 of 164
2/14/08 at 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by TravisR
I certainly intend no offense but it's nearly impossible to believe that info about a release as big as the Indiana Jones trilogy (one of the biggest catalog releases EVER) hasn't leaked out more with only three months until it's released.
it already has leaked. a Danish, iirc, site posted comments from a local Paramount rep that Godfather was planned for spring and IJ for fall. It would be a bit of a surprise for me personaly to see IJ in the spring, but none whatsoever in the fall. As for hd dvd only...it woulnd't seem a stretch to me to see them release on that format first/ y'see it helps keep that format viable until they finish the last two seasons of star trek/. Besides they only benefit by waiting to release on the "one true format" ...you know until bd actually has a large enough installed base worth catering too.
post #13 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:05pm

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Sounds like a pure rumor to me, but I guess you never know. May could be a very interesting month when it comes to format war. At least SOMETHING will happen..

Btw. When the film will be released in theaters anyway? Is May too early for DVD/HD-releases?
post #14 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:25pm
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You have a hatred of Blu-ray...

False. I do not hate a format. I despise some types of people that support a format by making a competition out of it to try to make themselves feel smarter.

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...you used false information about Lucasfilm...

Really? What part is false?

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...and posted an unfounded rumor.

Clearly stated as such.

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FWIW, I think this thread should be closed...

FWIW, I don't give a rat's ass what you think.
post #15 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:29pm

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Jesse,

For the record. Robert George has been very open-minded
to both formats.

Furthermore, Robert made it clear that this was not factual
information he was posting, but merely a very strong rumor
from sources he trusts.

Your accusations here are not warranted nor polite. I ask that
you kindly refrain from any similar remarks in the future.
post #16 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:34pm

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Originally Posted by Robert George
You (Blacklow) can continue with your combative posting until you are, um, blu in the face for all I care.


LMAO!




BTW: Thank you for telling us that tid bit of information. I know you and your credibility. I for one, appreciate you sharing this rumor.
post #17 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:38pm

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Wow, Ron. Such a change from last year. Robert's made his bias very clear here and elsewhere, and it's rather odd that you're defending his rumor post, where in the past I've seen such threads from others locked or deleted. Why not this one?
post #18 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:38pm

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Thinking about these titles I wonder if they will basically be a re-package of the existing SD DVDs?

Not that I would complain about that.
post #19 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:40pm

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Jesse - Let it go.

After reading this thread again it appears that you are the one bringing "agenda" into this thread.

It is just software.
post #20 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:45pm

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I see both Jesse and George as having been equally rude here.

As for the news - I find it rather suspect for the following reasons:

1) Lucasfilm is not the type of studio to jump into a format early, even with a new entry into the film series.

2) Paramount hasn't exactly been lighting up release dates with catalog titles lately on HD-DVD.

3) The industry is pulling away from HD-DVD as a whole the last few months.

If anything, I see them releasing on both formats in the Fall if they release them at all.
post #21 of 164
2/14/08 at 1:59pm

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I'm going to have to go with Brandon on this one. With all the recent events, if HD-DVD actually had a title as big as Indiana Jones in the pipeline for release as early as May, I imagine they would be screaming it from the hilltops right now. Even on SD-DVD Indy's release was announced a good 8-9 months before the actual street date, and that was on a well-established and thriving format.
post #22 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:03pm

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Indiana Jones. May. HD DVD.

I trust the source, but I'm still looking for an announcement.

The irony! Because (seriously here) I heard from a source at that studio that it would be coming to blu! Maybe they'll be doing a purple release?
post #23 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:04pm

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I find it so interesting that everyone knows more than someone from the studio in question.


Plenty can happen with plans like this and that is why it is rumor. Strings get pulled and decisions get made at the last minute. This happens in ALL of business not just Hollywood.
post #24 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:10pm

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Originally Posted by Chris Maynard
I find it so interesting that everyone knows more than someone from the studio in question.
And I find it so interesting that anyone would take an unsubstantiated rumor from an unnamed source as fact or without at least a healthy dose of skepticism.
post #25 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:13pm

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Originally Posted by SD_Brian
And I find it so interesting that anyone would take an unsubstantiated rumor from an unnamed source as fact or without at least a healthy dose of skepticism.

Who took it as fact?

What did I miss?

I believe Robert George was told this by a studio person without question. I have known Robert for 9 years and while he may be many things, he is NOT a liar.

Those of you who don't like him don't know him. One of the most helpful and knowledgeable people I have had the pleasure of knowing.
post #26 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:29pm

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george lucas released all 6 star wars movies on HBOHD and cinemaxHD.. Somehow I expect him to do the same thing with indiana jones.

Jacob
post #27 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:31pm

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Wasn't Spielberg always more in favor of BD, anyhow?

The release of IJ in May would be an EXTREMELY bizarre move for Paramount, regardless of the format. If they are going to release the first three at all they'd tie it in with the home video release of "Crystal Skulls", and that, at the very earliest, would be in August (if we're holding to the 90 day window). The IJ pictures do very well from repeat theatrical patrons, so their theatrical window runs much longer than a regular picture. All three of the SW films played well past Labor Day. A release with the impact of IJ would be a huge 4Q release to drive the holiday sales. Since Lucasfilm is involved, and if they hold to the model of the SW DVD releases, they'll wait until November, again, for the holiday push.

Prior to the Warner BD decision, I said the format war could be over pretty quick if Lucas released the SW pictures. At a minimum, the IJ's would have a lesser impact. I agree with whoever said it earlier, if they were coming in May, Paramount, Toshiba and anyone else would be squawking about it.
post #28 of 164
2/14/08 at 2:38pm

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Unless it was a stealth marketing move, which is a possibility. I still have yet to see anything definitive from Spielberg that says "I prefer Blu-Ray." It's all been speculation and conjecture up to this point, based on the fact that Sony has released CE3K on BD and that it's the only Spielberg film on either HD format @ this point.
post #29 of 164
2/14/08 at 3:03pm

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I'd release during theatrical.

Isolate the IJ4 release; I wouldn't want to pony up for a 3 disc set plus new release at the same time.
post #30 of 164
2/14/08 at 3:25pm

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The release of IJ in May would be an EXTREMELY bizarre move for Paramount, regardless of the format. If they are going to release the first three at all they'd tie it in with the home video release of "Crystal Skulls", and that, at the very earliest, would be in August (if we're holding to the 90 day window). The IJ pictures do very well from repeat theatrical patrons, so their theatrical window runs much longer than a regular picture. All three of the SW films played well past Labor Day. A release with the impact of IJ would be a huge 4Q release to drive the holiday sales.

Only problem is if HD DVD doesn't do something soon there will be no holiday sales. I haven't heard any thing about this being released, but this would be the type of title(s) to move up the release date on if HD DVD decided to try to battle back. Having said that I would be suprised if this was available for purchase in May. I wish it were true as I would love to own these, but I'm not holding my breath.
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