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More CinemaScope films from WB, FOX , Universal & Columbia

post #1 of 30
2/4/08 at 5:15am
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The major studios have released several CinemaScope films however, with the abundance of titles in their catalog, there are several films still missing in action. I can think of a stars like Ginger Rogers, Jane Russell, Lauren Bacall, Gregory Peck just to name a few who made several films during the CinemaScope era. Also there were several film noirs that were released in CinemaScope. Here is a list of films that I feel should get released. If you have any suggestions feel free to add to the list.

Hell on Frisco Bay
Women's World
Teenage Rebel
Night People
The Tattered Dress
Violent Saturday
I died a thousand times
The Left hand of God
The Egyptian
Underwater
Gentlemen Marry Brunettes
Hot Blood
Slightly Scarlet
The Revolt of Mamie Stover
How to Be Very, Very Popular
Three for the Show
Istanbul
The Gift of Love
The Cobweb
The 3rd Voice
Zarak
The Bandit of Zhobe
Interpol aka Pick up Alley
Back from Eternity
Sign of the Pagan
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post #2 of 30
2/4/08 at 5:54am

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The CinemaScope films were produced during the Eastman 5248 era.

This means that, in a general sense, work needs to be performed to bring them back to a printable state. This also means investment and time.
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post #3 of 30
2/4/08 at 6:33am

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Hot Blood is available from region 2 U.K. The transfer is excellent. It's a wonderful hyperactive film, it's a must for any fans of Nicholas Ray.
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
The CinemaScope films were produced during the Eastman 5248 era.
Do you know if The Robe was shot on 5248 or the earlier (and slower) 5247 stock?
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
This means that, in a general sense, work needs to be performed to bring them back to a printable state. This also means investment and time.
How much money? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?

I re-watched Fox's The Last Wagon (1956) tonight for the first time since it was released, and I was again blown away by the quality of the film, and the good quality transfer. I watched The Proud Ones (1956) a couple of weeks ago which looks even better, and is another excellent CinemaScope western.

Both of those DVDs are double sided, with a widescreen version of the film on one side, and a pan and scan copy on the other. Fox should stop bothering with pan and scan versions, but include one of their Regal or Associate Producers Inc. B-films on Side B of their classic DVDs. For example one of their RegalScope westerns. Since they are B&W I imagine making transfers would cost a lot less than transferring a colour film. But it would just be cool to get an A western and a B western on the same DVD, kind of like a double bill, like how they were originally shown.
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post #4 of 30
2/4/08 at 6:51am

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I had heard that the THE EGYPTIAN had been restored and also been shown on INHD channel ( horribly pan and scanned to 16X9). The credits were in 2.55 and looked amazing. Where's the DVD release????
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post #5 of 30
2/4/08 at 10:33am

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How much money? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?

I've never heard of these things costing less than 6 figures.
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post #6 of 30
2/4/08 at 10:37am

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Yeah, where is it? The Egyptian is one of my favorite movie spectaculars. And give it to me on Blu-ray - PLEASE. The musical score by Bernard Hermann is one of his best, the sets are spectacular and it's great fun watching Daryl Zanuck's "find" Bella Darvi vamp her way across the wide CinemaScope screen.
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post #7 of 30
2/4/08 at 12:25pm

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I've never heard of these things costing less than 6 figures.

That's not true. There are many restorations that are done on very minor budgets (sometimes as little as $10,000). It's entirely dependent on how much work has to be done on a title.

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For example one of their RegalScope westerns. Since they are B&W I imagine making transfers would cost a lot less than transferring a colour film. But it would just be cool to get an A western and a B western on the same DVD, kind of like a double bill, like how they were originally shown.

The cost of transferring black and white and color film is about nominal. For best results, you have to have a colorist there for color films but generally this is done in printing the CRI and likewise, unless the black and white is printed up as a fine grain with all of the timings corrected, you'll still have to time shot-for-shot.

I hate to say it, but it costs less for Fox to do a Pan and Scan of the picture they just did a transfer of rather than striking a new transfer element and doing an entirely new transfer for a film that almost no one remembers. It's a nice thought and I'd be for it, but don't expect to see most any RegalScope films anytime soon.

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Do you know if The Robe was shot on 5248 or the earlier (and slower) 5247 stock?

5247 (5248 was introduced in 1953, but only after the first two CS titles were shot), which is why THE ROBE and HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE are both heavily lit.

Also, to the initial poster-- UNDERWATER! is a SuperScope title, not a CinemaScope title.
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post #8 of 30
2/4/08 at 5:23pm

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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston
I hate to say it, but it costs less for Fox to do a Pan and Scan of the picture they just did a transfer of rather than striking a new transfer element and doing an entirely new transfer for a film that almost no one remembers. It's a nice thought and I'd be for it, but don't expect to see most any RegalScope films anytime soon.
I'm similarly confused as to why they still bother with pan and scan transfers. We are 11 years into the DVD era. Surely people who want to buy a CinemaScope film on DVD want to see it in widescreen!? They would save money on not having to make the pan and scan transfer, and they could save money pressing single rather than double sided discs.

But I still like the idea of them selling double bills with an A film and a B film per DVD.

Fox have unearthed some tremendous early CinemaScope films. I had no idea who director Robert D. Webb was before collecting CinemaScope films on DVD, but he directed three excellent early CinemaScope films Beneath the 12-Mile Reef (OK, not the greatest story, but the under water CinemaScope photography, and Herrmann's mesmerising score lift this one up a notch), White Feather, and The Proud Ones, and another good one, Elvis' first film Love Me Tender (for some reason in Black and White, maybe they didn't think Elvis would turn out to be a star, but that would've been a strange prediction.). They have also released a stunning transfer of Pirates of Tortuga, from memory it is completely flawless, but I enjoyed this less than the others.

I hope Fox eventually release Webb's other films especially On the Threshold of Space, and The Way to the Gold. I haven't seen them, but they sound interesting.

It seems to me that Webb is one of those unheralded workhorse studio filmmakers who could put in a good effort given a half decent script, a good D.O.P., and some good actors.
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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston
5247 (5248 was introduced in 1953, but only after the first two CS titles were shot), which is why THE ROBE and HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE are both heavily lit.
Thanks for the info.
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post #9 of 30
2/4/08 at 6:20pm

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Originally Posted by Jon Lidolt
Yeah, where is it? The Egyptian is one of my favorite movie spectaculars. And give it to me on Blu-ray - PLEASE. The musical score by Bernard Hermann is one of his best, the sets are spectacular and it's great fun watching Daryl Zanuck's "find" Bella Darvi vamp her way across the wide CinemaScope screen.
One of my favourite shots in The Egyptian is the long take cranning shot that introduces Bela Darvi's character.

It starts as a long shot but the camera, placed on a crane, dollies forwards, and pans left then right before a cut reveals Darvi.

There is a dancer at the centre-background of the frame who is dressed in yellow, whereas everyone else is wearing white, and is shrouded in a slightly blue light. The dancer is aperture framed between two columns that form a border around her that further helps keep our attention in the background. The camera slowly moves closer to her before panning left to show Edmund Purdom watching her, and Darvi who is in right off-screen space. It's a perfect piece of integrating camera movement with acting (well, dancing) and costume design, to attract our attention into the center and back of the CinemaScope frame.

Good jobs Mr Curtiz and Mr Shamroy!





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post #10 of 30
2/4/08 at 8:12pm

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Originally Posted by Simon Howson
I'm similarly confused as to why they still bother with pan and scan transfers. We are 11 years into the DVD era. Surely people who want to buy a CinemaScope film on DVD want to see it in widescreen!? They would save money on not having to make the pan and scan transfer, and they could save money pressing single rather than double sided discs.


Most TV stations will still not run a letterboxed film and as such a pan and scan version must be made to make back the cost of transferring to video in the first place. On a catalog title the studio will most likely make more money on TV distribution than DVD sales.

Doug
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post #11 of 30
2/4/08 at 9:12pm

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I agree, there's no reason to be including a pan and scan/open matte ANYTHING in this day and age, but it happens because there are ninnies out there who feel uncomfortable if their screen isn't being filled. And (as mentioned above) there are still networks that won't run letterbox.

ON THE THRESHOLD OF SPACE is one of Webb's best, the film that John Hodiak died on the set of. It's a great space-race era film that takes a more science than fiction look at the conquest of space. But can it sell? I know that's a fairly business-minded thing to say, but the problem is you've got to be able to make it sell in order to put it out there.

And regarding LOVE ME TENDER-- I'm sure it was budgetary. Who knew Elvis was going to sell as well as he did? The original title was THE RENO BROTHERS until they wrote the song up. There are some fine films shot black and white 'scope. They look pretty damned impressive.
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post #12 of 30
2/4/08 at 10:40pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Most TV stations will still not run a letterboxed film and as such a pan and scan version must be made to make back the cost of transferring to video in the first place. On a catalog title the studio will most likely make more money on TV distribution than DVD sales.
So that possibly means they do two pan and scan transfers, a 4:3 one, and a 16:9 one for HDTV channels. I understand why they do it, but I think it is sad that they have to do that just to please some people who don't really care much about the film.
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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston
ON THE THRESHOLD OF SPACE is one of Webb's best, the film that John Hodiak died on the set of. It's a great space-race era film that takes a more science than fiction look at the conquest of space. But can it sell? I know that's a fairly business-minded thing to say, but the problem is you've got to be able to make it sell in order to put it out there.
No I think that attitude makes sense, money must be the overriding factor. That's why I thought if you include an additional B film, but call it an extra feature that that could justify increasing the sale price by a few dollars. Say an increase in the recommended price from $15 to $17 or $18, because the buyer would be getting two films for that price.

But doing that only makes sense if the studio already has a transferable element to work with. Also, if they were adding B-films as extra features then I don't think people would need it to be an absolute top quality transfer, like they do for their A films.
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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston
And regarding LOVE ME TENDER-- I'm sure it was budgetary. Who knew Elvis was going to sell as well as he did? The original title was THE RENO BROTHERS until they wrote the song up. There are some fine films shot black and white 'scope. They look pretty damned impressive.
It's a curious one, it seems they felt Love Me Tender became a defacto "teen" film because of Elvis' presence, so they went with B&W 'Scope, like for Teenage Rebel. But it is actually quite a better film than that. Elvis' acting is a bit hot or cold, but the film still holds up as a decent, if not spectacular, western.

B&W 'Scope obviously enabled certain deep focus effects that are a lot rarer in colour CinemaScope films of the same year. Such as in Love Me Tender, the hold up at the train station where there is conflict in the foreground, and mayhem in the background all in sharp focus.


There is a similar shot when the bunch (dressed as Union soldiers) are stealing money from the train. They can be clearly seen taking the money through the window at the centre of the frame, as one of them stops the station master from revealing the ruse.


Sam Fuller seems to love the format in Forty Guns. First he shows a shot of the gunman going nuts in the middle of the main street, then cuts to a shot a hundred metres away with the gun man still visible in the middle of the frame.




Some other great B&W CinemaScope films:

Bitter Victory
The Young Lions
Diary of Anne Frank
Compulsion
Sink the Bismark
Seven Thieves
The Hustler
The Innocents (Astonishing photography by Freddie Francis)
The Longest Day (though this film is credited as CinemaScope, to me it looks more like a Panavision lensed film)
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post #13 of 30
2/4/08 at 11:19pm

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No I think that attitude makes sense, money must be the overriding factor. That's why I thought if you include an additional B film, but call it an extra feature that that could justify increasing the sale price by a few dollars. Say an increase in the recommended price from $15 to $17 or $18, because the buyer would be getting two films for that price.

This is true, but the problem is that selling classic movies is a hard sell to begin with. Some of the only sales these things make is because they've been knocked down to $10 or whatever. The average consumer buy about 50 DVDs, and that's about it.

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But doing that only makes sense if the studio already has a transferable element to work with. Also, if they were adding B-films as extra features then I don't think people would need it to be an absolute top quality transfer, like they do for their A films.

That is, of course, a big "if."

Most features have transfers done already, but in a case like this, unfortunately pan and scan.
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post #14 of 30
2/4/08 at 11:32pm

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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston
This is true, but the problem is that selling classic movies is a hard sell to begin with. Some of the only sales these things make is because they've been knocked down to $10 or whatever. The average consumer buy about 50 DVDs, and that's about it.
I wonder what the future will be? They only release famous A films on a physical media, and the rest are DRMd downloads, from new transfers, but based on whatever the best element they can find at the time?

Hopefully blu-ray explodes over the next 12 - 18 months, and effectively subsidises the release of many more classic films on standard DVD.
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post #15 of 30
2/4/08 at 11:58pm

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One of my favorite widescreen films, it's actually Panavision not CinemaScope, is The Satan Bug (1965) directed by John Sturges. It's a cool cold war, germ warfare spy thriller. Sturges really knew how to use the 2.35:1 ratio. Some of his other great widescreen films include

Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (VistaVision)
The Magnificent Seven (Panavision)
The Great Escape (Panavision)
Hour of the Gun (Panavision)
Ice Station Zebra (Super Panavision 70)

But The Satan Bug is still only available as a pan and scan VHS.

Doug
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post #16 of 30
2/5/08 at 1:23am

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
One of my favorite widescreen films, it's actually Panavision not CinemaScope, is The Satan Bug (1965) directed by John Sturges. It's a cool cold war, germ warfare spy thriller. Sturges really knew how to use the 2.35:1 ratio. Some of his other great widescreen films include

Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (VistaVision)
The Magnificent Seven (Panavision)
The Great Escape (Panavision)
Hour of the Gun (Panavision)
Ice Station Zebra (Super Panavision 70)

But The Satan Bug is still only available as a pan and scan VHS.

Doug
I think Bad Day at Black Rock is a pretty good example of early CinemaScope filmmaking. All the scenes in the hotel lobby are handled in interesting ways, with different actors kind of hanging around different areas of the frame.

Last Train from Gun Hill is another great VistaVision film he directed, I actually prefer it to the more famous Gunfight at O.K. Corral. Ice Station Zebra is a great film, who would've thought the large format would work so well in a confined space like a submarine? Warner did a great job with the DVD, and the Australian version only costs $8!

I haven't watched the others recently, but vaguely recall interesting things in Hour of the Gun. I'll have to give them another look.

The Satan Bug MUST be good, because it has Anne Francis in it. :-P
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post #17 of 30
2/5/08 at 5:29pm

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Since there are a fair number of Region 2 releases that stand a good chance of not being released here I will be buying a few titles.

Lonely Are The Brave '62
Captain Lightfoot '55 (2:55)
Garden Of Evil '54 (2:55)
Flight From Ashiya '64
The Long Duel '67
Satan Bug '67
Run For The Sun '56
Tobruk '67
File Of The Golden Goose '69
Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here '69
Night Of The Generals '67

I will keep checking and hopefully will find a few more 2:35 films. It's a pity they are not available in Region 1 but I am buying a Oppo HD981 specifically for Region 2 dvds as my old Bravo D1 does not convert as well as I'd like.
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post #18 of 30
2/5/08 at 7:46pm

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Originally Posted by Brent Avery
Since there are a fair number of Region 2 releases that stand a good chance of not being released here I will be buying a few titles.

Lonely Are The Brave '62
Captain Lightfoot '55 (2:55)

Do you know which country has these two out? I can't find them on United Kingdom webpages.

There are lots out in France that aren't out anywhere else, but they are very expensive. I managed to pick up Bigger than Life on eBay for AUD$20, and I want to get Party Girl. But they are so expensive on Amazon.fr
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post #19 of 30
2/5/08 at 8:19pm

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Originally Posted by Simon Howson
I think Bad Day at Black Rock is a pretty good example of early CinemaScope filmmaking. All the scenes in the hotel lobby are handled in interesting ways, with different actors kind of hanging around different areas of the frame.

Last Train from Gun Hill is another great VistaVision film he directed, I actually prefer it to the more famous Gunfight at O.K. Corral. Ice Station Zebra is a great film, who would've thought the large format would work so well in a confined space like a submarine? Warner did a great job with the DVD, and the Australian version only costs $8!

I haven't watched the others recently, but vaguely recall interesting things in Hour of the Gun. I'll have to give them another look.

The Satan Bug MUST be good, because it has Anne Francis in it. :-P


Right I had forgotten about Last Train From Gun Hill. Another great John Sturges film.

And yes Anne Francis is always a joy to watch, even if her costumes in Satan Bug aren't as revealing as Forbidden Planet!

Doug
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post #20 of 30
2/5/08 at 8:22pm

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Simon - You should be able to find it within the dvd listings on the ebay uk site. They are both Spainish releases - with Spanish language titleson the covers etc.but have english audio tracks. I agree that more often than not they are more expensive, especially with shipping charges but I'm willing to live with it for a film I enjoy. If you still are unable to locate either let me know and I will pm you.
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post #21 of 30
2/7/08 at 3:40am

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Originally Posted by Brent Avery
Simon - You should be able to find it within the dvd listings on the ebay uk site. They are both Spainish releases - with Spanish language titleson the covers etc.but have english audio tracks. I agree that more often than not they are more expensive, especially with shipping charges but I'm willing to live with it for a film I enjoy. If you still are unable to locate either let me know and I will pm you.
I found Lonely Are the Brave, bit too expensive for my liking though. I guess I'll just keep waiting. Typical Universal though, they release more in Europe than anywhere else it seems.

The only copies of Captain Lightfoot I could find were dodgy bootleg copies that I'd rather stay away from.
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post #22 of 30
2/7/08 at 4:44pm

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Originally Posted by Simon Howson
The only copies of Captain Lightfoot I could find were dodgy bootleg copies that I'd rather stay away from.
I believe a good edition is available in Japan, but you can only get it with other films in an expensive Douglas Sirk boxset.
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post #23 of 30
2/8/08 at 12:53am

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Originally Posted by jack phillips
I believe a good edition is available in Japan, but you can only get it with other films in an expensive Douglas Sirk boxset.
Thanks for the tip. I'm still hoping that Universal will do a comprehensive Sirk set for R1. Yes, I'll be waiting a long time. :|
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post #24 of 30
2/8/08 at 5:25am

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Man of the West (CinemaScope) - I've been waiting years for a DVD release and I don't think it's ever going to happen at this point.

Dark of the Sun (Panavision) - Warner mentioned this in last years chat but it didn't happen. Would've made a good Marketing tie in to the release of Blood Diamond last year. Maybe this is the year?
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post #25 of 30
2/8/08 at 5:31am

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Originally Posted by Jim_K
Man of the West (CinemaScope) - I've been waiting years for a DVD release and I don't think it's ever going to happen at this point.
I think Man of the West is one of the absolute best Westerns ever made, so if I was in your position I'd buy the Australian version

You could use a video editing application to convert it from PAL to NTSC if that bothers you. Nero Vision does this, albeit with slight quality degradation.

The Australian DVD isn't the best quality. It is anamorphic widescreen, but it looks like a pretty old transfer. I'd give it 6/10. But it is passable given the quality of the film.
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post #26 of 30
2/8/08 at 5:41am

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Even TCM has been known to broadcast a pan and scan version of a CinemaScope film. Not too long ago they showed the musical remake of It Happened One Night, YOU CAN'T RUN AWAY FROM IT in a very bad and grainy panned and scanned print. To make matters worse, it was mono.
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post #27 of 30
2/8/08 at 4:07pm

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I think Man of the West is one of the absolute best Westerns ever made, so if I was in your position I'd buy the Australian version

You could use a video editing application to convert it from PAL to NTSC if that bothers you. Nero Vision does this, albeit with slight quality degradation.

Thanks but I've got the R2 PAL version and a region free Oppo and it's better than nothing but I still want a decent NTSC version at the very least. The PAL to NTSC conversion anomalies really are very distracting to me (no offence intended to the PAL folks here).

I do agree it is one of the greatest Westerns ever and is criminally overlooked by the studio who owns it.
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post #28 of 30
2/9/08 at 1:49am

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Thanks but I've got the R2 PAL version and a region free Oppo and it's better than nothing but I still want a decent NTSC version at the very least. The PAL to NTSC conversion anomalies really are very distracting to me (no offence intended to the PAL folks here).

I do agree it is one of the greatest Westerns ever and is criminally overlooked by the studio who owns it.
Do you have Mann's CinemaScope western The Last Frontier? The Columbia DVD is pretty lame quality, but the film is brilliant. After that, he made The Tin Star in B&W VistaVision, which has all these crazy deep focus shots. During the final shoot out the bad guy gets shot and collapses backwards INTO the camera, making it shake! You don't see that in too many films.
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post #29 of 30
2/9/08 at 5:41am

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Do you have Mann's CinemaScope western The Last Frontier? The Columbia DVD is pretty lame quality, but the film is brilliant. After that, he made The Tin Star in B&W VistaVision, which has all these crazy deep focus shots. During the final shoot out the bad guy gets shot and collapses backwards INTO the camera, making it shake! You don't see that in too many films.

You could say I'm an admirer of Anthony Mann's work. I do have The Last Frontier, it caught me by surprise because it's never really talked about much. The Tin Star left me just a little cold honestly but when I watched it I think I was unconsciously (and maybe unfairly) comparing to the brilliant Stewart/Mann Westerns (of which Man From Laramie has fantastic CimemaScope photography). I plan on giving The Tin Star another viewing someday.

The only other notable Mann films (aside from a handful of his pre-noir studio work) I haven't seen yet are A Dandy in Aspic, Serenade and The Furies. The last of which I've been seeking out for years with no luck.

I'm hoping maybe someday Criterion will do an Anthony Mann Eclipse release including The Furies, The Devil's Doorway and The Tall Target.
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post #30 of 30
2/9/08 at 6:08am

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Originally Posted by Jim_K
I'm hoping maybe someday Criterion will do an Anthony Mann Eclipse release including The Furies, The Devil's Doorway and The Tall Target.
Criterion are releasing The Furies, I'm not sure when though, maybe May or June. It hasn't been formally announced, but it was strongly hinted at in their December email newsletter.

But I agree with you that he would be ideal for an Eclipse box. Surely they could do better Eclipse versions of T-Men and Raw Deal than all the public domain copies. So those two would be a start, then you could go from there.

Kino have released nice copies of Railroaded and Strange Impersonation.

I'm yet to see a Mann film that I didn't like. Truly one of the great underrated Hollywood filmmakers. If only he made it into the 70s and 80s he would be a lot better known.
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