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Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!  

post #1 of 14
2/1/08 at 7:47pm
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As you can see it is a direct rebadge with a different power supply unit.
post #2 of 14
2/2/08 at 7:01am

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

Not surprising as Harman International owns both companies. This happens all the time in the CE world. People assume that because the branding is more exclusive it must be better and worth more.
post #3 of 14
2/2/08 at 9:12am

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

H/K used to be such a good company. Now they just take over other, better companies and cheapen them.
post #4 of 14
2/2/08 at 4:05pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

Home Theater forum used to be such a good forum. Now we reprint posts
from other forums. Our standards are slipping.

Why is this so important? Did some snooty Lexicon dealer ban Asahikasei from his boutique?
post #5 of 14
2/2/08 at 4:45pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

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Home Theater forum used to be such a good forum. Now we reprint posts
from other forums. Our standards are slipping.
Don't forget this one Home Theater Forum from a week or two ago . Yup. Someone's got a bone to pick.
post #6 of 14
2/2/08 at 5:54pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

The guy is a troll, he was banned several times under different user names at other forums. TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL!!!!!

To be honest, I agree that the RV-5 and the H/K are almost identical. The toroidal power supply would be more expensive more than likely. Toroidals are better performers than iron core power supplies. The preouts are probably the same. The price is not hugely different, as noted before.

You want to bash all the high end gear, that's fine. There is a perfect place for you to carry out your antics, go to ecoustics.

Also, troll
post #7 of 14
2/3/08 at 9:15am
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Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

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Not surprising as Harman International owns both companies. This happens all the time in the CE world. People assume that because the branding is more exclusive it must be better and worth more.

I agree, people assume that because it is a lexicon it will sound better but as we can see it won't, smae thing with the MC-12.

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/K used to be such a good company. Now they just take over other, better companies and cheapen them.

Why are you blaming HK and how do they cheapen lexicon? As I showed ever the MC-12 is "cheap" on the inside.

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Why is this so important? Did some snooty Lexicon dealer ban Asahikasei from his boutique?

It is to show people that high end audio is a scam, save your money.

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Don't forget this one Home Theater Forum from a week or two ago . Yup. Someone's got a bone to pick.

How so? I am providing proof.

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Seth=L

How am I a troll?
post #8 of 14
2/3/08 at 10:16am

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

You are a troll, it's been seen before. Why do you think Audioholics banned you? Was it because you had lain some extraordinary truth on them they couldn't handle?, no. You where banned for trolling.
post #9 of 14
2/3/08 at 10:24am

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

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Originally Posted by Asahikasei
Why are you blaming HK and how do they cheapen lexicon? As I showed ever the MC-12 is "cheap" on the inside.
My point couldn't be any clearer. Of course, your conclusion that "high end audio is a scam" also shows a complete lack of logic. Finding a couple specific examples means nothing on the whole. I have to admit, you appear to be just a bit trollish. If all your arguments are this well thought out they have little value.
post #10 of 14
2/3/08 at 12:49pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

I think Bob means that when he pays for a highend preamp, he doesn't want to see the kind of junk circuitry that's more appropriate for a lowend POS that's hawked at best buy.

I mean, look at this stuff. Traces everywhere, no thought paid to design. Noisy as hell. Off the shelf everything.


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post #11 of 14
2/3/08 at 12:52pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

Yes, and just because H/K has bought Lexicon and cheapened their gear does not mean all high end stuff is a scam.

My point is, H/K used to be a top notch consumer brand. Now they are just a multinational conglomerate which buys up good brands and turns them in run-of-the-mill junk. The bought Klipsch and turned them from a decent, family founded brand into cheap plastic junk. The bought Mondial (technically Klipsch did, but all the same), a producer of excellent consumer and moderate high-end and basically trashed them into non-existance. The list goes on.
post #12 of 14
2/3/08 at 1:16pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

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Originally Posted by JohnRice
just because H/K has bought Lexicon and cheapened their gear
So now you're taking Asahikasei's word?

I happen to agree that Harman has hurt Lexicon, but not that way.

M.
post #13 of 14
2/3/08 at 5:13pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

Point taken Michael. My comments are based more on other instances of H/K doing this type of thing, particularly with other brands, some of which I mentioned. Also, the fact that for 2-3 decades H/K made some of the best, consumer level stuff out there. I have 3 of their mid 80s "i" series receivers, and it's great stuff. Mondial was also an exceptional company, until H/K (by way of Klipsch) got ahold of it.
post #14 of 14
2/3/08 at 5:29pm

Re: Lexicon RV-5 is a rebaged HK receiver!

John, there are plenty of serious issues that could be raised in this thread about the virtues, real or not, of high-end equipment or the role of conglomerates in the CE industry. But considering the origin of the thread, I think the watchword is best summed up by this graphic:

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