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The Simpsons Movie, Edited?

post #1 of 16
1/21/08 at 2:04pm
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So I just finished watching my copy of "The Simpsons Movie" and I can't find the part with "Maggie's first word"
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"Sequel"
I thought it came sometime in the credits or afterwards, but it does not seem to be there. Is it really missing?
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post #2 of 16
1/21/08 at 2:12pm

Re: The Simpsons Movie, Edited?

It hasn't been edited out: at least it was still there on my copy. It's during the closing credits when the family is watching the crawl. They finally get up to leave the theater and that's when Maggie's big first word appears. You do have to watch the credits all the way to the end, however.
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post #3 of 16
1/21/08 at 3:05pm

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Originally Posted by SD_Brian
It hasn't been edited out: at least it was still there on my copy.
Same here.
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post #4 of 16
1/21/08 at 6:32pm

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I thought Elizabeth Taylor voiced Maggie's first word many seasons ago on the TV series. Is this a bit of revisionist history on Groening's part?
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post #5 of 16
1/21/08 at 6:37pm

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Originally Posted by pitchman
I thought Elizabeth Taylor voiced Maggie's first word many seasons ago on the TV series. Is this a bit of revisionist history on Groening's part?
On one of the commentary tracks they justify it by saying it's the first word any of the family has actually HEARD her say. In the Elizabeth Taylor episode, nobody else was in the room when she spoke. So what they told you was true--From a certain point of view.
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post #6 of 16
1/21/08 at 6:43pm

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I just watched it this weekend. I saw her talk, its in the end credits.
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post #7 of 16
1/21/08 at 8:00pm

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Originally Posted by SD_Brian
On one of the commentary tracks they justify it by saying it's the first word any of the family has actually HEARD her say.
I would say Maggie talking during the credits was a joke for the audience rather than a part of the Simpsons' "lives" anyway. I also understand that taking the time to even think of something like that puts me into a whole realm of loser-dom.
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post #8 of 16
1/21/08 at 8:07pm

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She also said "Santa?" when Mr. Burns crashed into her room in the Flying Hellfish episode.
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post #9 of 16
1/21/08 at 9:12pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
She also said "Santa?" when Mr. Burns crashed into her room in the Flying Hellfish episode.
Watch it again: That was Lisa.
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post #10 of 16
1/22/08 at 1:01am

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Actually no. Why would Lisa think it was Santa? And they also point out in the commentary that it was Maggie speaking.
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post #11 of 16
1/22/08 at 8:47am

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Regarding Taylor, from a Vanity Fair article about the Simpsons:
"...Elizabeth Taylor, who voiced Maggie's first word, "Daddy." (Taylor said "Fuck you" to Matt Groening and stormed out of the recording session after he made her read the line more than 20 times. He said it kept sounding "too sexual.")
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post #12 of 16
1/22/08 at 11:34am

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
Actually no. Why would Lisa think it was Santa? And they also point out in the commentary that it was Maggie speaking.
It's Yeardley Smith saying "Santa?" and Lisa's room is next to Bart's (although the geography of the Simpson is loose). The guys on the commentary just made a mistake since they're regular guys and not detail oriented super fans.
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post #13 of 16
1/22/08 at 4:28pm

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I just saw the "Hell Fish" episode tonight. I always thought it was Lisa too. As Burns says "Go to sleep little girl". She was half asleep.
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post #14 of 16
1/22/08 at 5:49pm

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Well maybe, but a few things to consider:

Yeardley Smith has voiced Maggie on at least 3 other occasions (two of them fantasy scenes): "It's your fault I can't talk", "Moe" and "Sequel".

As noted, they do play around with the geography of the house, often for the sake of a gag. Ie: the house developing a window directly above the front door just so Homer can drop garbage on Ned when he rings the doorbell.

Lastly, while they often do have Lisa exhibiting very childlike behavior, I doubt, half asleep or not, that a superintelligent eight year old would mistake Mr. Burns crashing into her room as Santa and would just go back to sleep as told.
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post #15 of 16
1/22/08 at 6:38pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
Well maybe, but a few things to consider:

Yeardley Smith has voiced Maggie on at least 3 other occasions (two of them fantasy scenes): "It's your fault I can't talk", "Moe" and "Sequel".

Yes but Maggie has never talked off-camera. It's always a momentous occassion when she "speaks" so it's not something they would play offscreen. Plus, on those rare occassions when Yeardley Smith has voiced Maggie, she has modified her voice to make it sound like a baby talking rather than Lisa talking.

And, super-intelligent or not, people say some pretty wacky things when they're half-asleep.

Plus, it's just plain funnier that Lisa says it.
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post #16 of 16
1/24/08 at 3:37pm

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Yeah, I'm firmly in the "Lisa said 'Santa'" camp. For one, "Santa" would be an awfully complicated word for pre-verbal Maggie to say. For another, how would the audience be expected to know it was Maggie? We never hear her talk, and it sounds just like Lisa, so why would anyone ever think it was non-verbal Maggie?

Lisa can revert to normal 8-year-old behavior on many occasions, so it's not remotely remarkable that a half-asleep Lisa would wonder if Santa came into her room. And as noted, it's a heck of a lot funnier if it's Lisa instead of Maggie...
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