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While memory doesn't always serve up facts accurately, I seem to recall my first exposure to the work of Val Lewton on NY television in the late 1950s.

The films would have easily fit into the necessary time slots without massive deletions. I'm certain that someone will point out whether this is fact or odd recall from my then Universal monster-addled brain.

What I do know as a certainly was that among those who needed to view classic films in the home before the arrival of home video, that the works of Mr. Lewton were high in the pecking order of 16mm prints to be desired.

The were on a different level, both cost-wise and overall accessibility, from something like a dye transfer print of The Adventures of Robin Hood or North by Northwest, but something very special to the cognoscenti.

The other thing that I recall was that one film was almost never, if ever, seen, and that Ghost Ship.

Warner Home Video delivered their huge Lewton boxed set in October of 2005, just in time for Halloween.

Nine films from the master producer of RKO "horror."

The films, which were RKO's attempt to take a few box-office dollars away from Universal, were really less horror and more ambiance and hidden dread, and all with a delicacy never seen elsewhere.

The ill-titled The Curse of the Cat People, which is quintessential Lewton, is one of the most delicate films of it's kind ever fashioned.

These are magnificent little films, and a new documentary entitled Val Lewton: The Man in the Shadows, is about to be released by Warner that does an beautiful and elegant job of bringing Mr. Lewton and his work to life, almost as an 87 minute master's thesis from filmmaker Kent Jones and Professor Martin Scorsese, who also narrates.

Those familiar with Professor Scorsese's normally race-car paced speech patterns, which can easily give an hour's worth of information in two minutes flat, will be amazed, as he has slowed down to a crawl for this film, so that everyone will be able to keep up.

And this is a good thing, because the final product of all this work is, in the humble opinion of this writer, one of the finest documentaries ever created on the subject of a filmmaker.

Wonderfully, and obviously lovingly researched, this is not the typical documentary that one gets when someone does something for payment.

This is very special and important.

For those who have not yet discovered the wonders of Mr. Lewton's work, this is the perfect chance, as Man in the Shadows will now become a part of the boxed set at a street price of around $45, or separately for those who are already Lewton fans for about $14.

I make note of this, as the price of the boxed set has NOT been raised. This works out to around $5 per film before counting any of the extras.

Either way, this is a must own.

Man in the Shadows is a documentary for those who love film -- created by people who love film.

It is filled to the brim with well-researched information, served up with class and elegance by everyone's favorite virtual professor of the cinema.

Very Highly Recommended.

RAH

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Re: A few words about...™ Val Lewton: The Man in the Shadows

Seconded!

I recorded the broadcast premier off TCM on the 14th and was fully engrossed. My TiVO seemed to cut off early which may have in fact been to my benefit as it left me wanting to see more and thus, I'm anxiously awaiting the release of this documentary on DVD. It serves as the perfect companion piece to Warner's five-star Lewton Collection. I only wonder if the DVD release will feature extra content or additional features not seen on TCM? Eitherway, this is a must-have for all fans of cinema.
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
...this is a must own.

Man in the Shadows is a documentary for those who love film -- created by people who love film.

It is filled to the brim with well-researched information, served up with class and elegance by everyone's favorite virtual professor of the cinema.
I caught this on TCM too (I think it ran less than 87 minutes though) and agree with RAH's above quote.
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Perhaps terrorists broke into my house, hit me over the head and I missed all the "info" but there wasn't anything new in this documentary. In fact, I'd say the whole thing is very worthless and doesn't add anything new over the 2005 doc, which was included in the last Lewton set. All the information in that documentary is carried over and I'd say the biggest difference in running time is the fact that we get more clips in this one. It's certainly not bad but it didn't offer anything new.
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I stand corrected. The running time is 76 minutes. The 89 minute figure on the packaging was apparently used as a placeholder, as most Turner programs run that length.

The film premiered at Telluride this past fall and went through additional cutting.

Also, per Mr. Elliott's comments, the original 2005 documentary is a fine film. The additional time, as well as the inclusion of clips allows Man in the Shadows to reach the next level, yielding a more cohesive and pleasurable experience.

Do they share numerous elements? Of course. One can only tell a tale so many ways, but it does it beautifully.

Was it a necessity to create in addition to Shadows in the Dark?

Probably not.

But I'm very pleased that they did.
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i've been looking forward to this since announced. I love Scorsese docs where he talks about films. Nice to see this get the RAH seal of approval!
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Originally Posted by Jonathan-S
Oddly enough, THE GHOST SHIP (withdrawn due to a successful plagiarism case) was the ONLY Lewton film that I owned before the advent of home video! It was available (complete) in the UK on Super 8mm during the 1970s, though it didn't turn up on TV here until the 1990s.

Thanks for that info Jonathan.

From the above, I'm not sure how far back your knowledge of The Ghost Ship goes. Was it on TV or available on 8mm film back in the 60's in the U.K.?

The Ghost Ship was my first experience with the Val Lewton films (AFAIK). And it came with the WHV boxset. I've watched all of the films in the boxset, with The Ghost Ship, Bedlam, The 7th Victim and Cat People new favorites.
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I can't recommend Martin Scorsese's documentary highly enough. It is perceptive, literate, and brilliantly edited -- just like Val Lewton himself. I don't mind the overlap with the previous documentary. Scorsese makes associations and offers insights that need to be said and aren't said anywhere else.

If you already bought the box-set of Val Lewton's films, MAN IN THE SHADOWS is available separately and at a fair price.

If you love Val Lewton's films as much as I do, check out The Val Lewton Screenplay Page. There is much to learn about how cinema works from studying these scripts, some of the best ever written:

The Val Lewton Screenplay Collection Index
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I didn't get the set previously, but given that Amazon currently has this new version listing with a lower price than the original box, I'm intrigued enough to go for a blind buy.
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is the new box slimcases, or is it just the new dvd shrinkwrapped to the old box?
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Jonathan,

Thanks much for the info. What do you think of the book "Icons of Grief?"

btw, you've got a PM.
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I didn't think the new documentary was so great. They didn't mention the suit over THE GHOST SHIP at all! They barely even touched on that film!
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