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Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

post #1 of 32
1/15/08 at 5:14pm
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No commentary, no trailers, just a bunch of kid-oriented material such as what the HARRY POTTER series has offered us... Can't believe there isn't enough material to justify a commentary (perhaps in part by the still very much alive Rod Taylor). Shame. THE JUNGLE BOOK was so complete a special edition (except for a trailer) that this offering seems like an after-thought. The Platinum Series really is inconsistent, but the majority of titles really offer the Disney collector some meat. This one...
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post #2 of 32
1/16/08 at 5:10am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

I'm waiting to see how Disney will present these films on BR.

I'm hoping for a more collector oriented approach, hopefully without the kid features and more in tune with their earlier laserdisc releases. My only concern is in regards to their inconsistent revisionist approach to color timing these features as well as soundtrack options which might even fare worse in high-def to comply with the perceived notion of the vastly improved digital contempo look of what's being released and expected. I hope that's not the case. I'd love to see a purely adult collection of all the classic titles released in a set with original artwork and the works. For now, I've stopped picking up the Platinum titles. I think Sleeping Beauty was my last purchase.
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post #3 of 32
1/16/08 at 10:46am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

I, for one, found the JUNGLE BOOK quite lacking too. They have been dumbing down their classic releases for quite some time now, both the Platinum and the vault classics Special Edition series, not to mention dubious aspect ratios and controversial color timing readjustments, and future does not bode well...

I am afraid that those SNOW WHITE, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST or even THE LION KING type of releases are a thing from the past, and I really doubt we will be seeing them back.

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post #4 of 32
3/3/08 at 11:46am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

Any reviews of the 101 Dalmations platinum edition yet? Looking forward to HTF's review.
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post #5 of 32
3/3/08 at 12:32pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

Good news is we finally are getting trailers/ tv spots and radio spots on 101 Dalmatians which all there most recent DVD releases were omitting them. That is a plus. But yeah nothing can compre to the artwork we could get on teh old laserdisc sets. I guess those days are over.
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post #6 of 32
3/3/08 at 12:43pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

the trivia track for fans was pretty interesting.

the trivia for families, i didnt look at.
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post #7 of 32
3/3/08 at 12:55pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Mike.B
Any reviews of the 101 Dalmations platinum edition yet? Looking forward to HTF's review.

Yeah. I've got the last release. I'd need to know that this new one is lightyears ahead in PQ/SQ before I'd double-dip in SD.
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post #8 of 32
3/3/08 at 1:47pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Mike.B
Any reviews of the 101 Dalmations platinum edition yet? Looking forward to HTF's review.

It should be up tomorrow.
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post #9 of 32
3/4/08 at 5:10pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

I'm just waiting to see if they screw up the transfer like they did with the Jungle Book and so many other movies. Unfortunately, as we found out with that release, online reviews can't be trusted at all as far as picture quality goes, because not a single review I could find anywhere online even mentioned the horrific transfer problems. I hate having to buy the disc to find out if it's messed up or not.
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post #10 of 32
3/4/08 at 8:19pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

The "transfer problems" on Jungle Book are insignificant next to The Little Mermaid's transfer and its sound mix. I'm waiting for a review as well.
Review up on DVDTalk: DVD Talk Review: 101 Dalmations - 2-Disc Platinum Edition. They say the transfer is miles ahead of the old and that the extras are better balanced than on some other Platinum titles.
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post #11 of 32
3/4/08 at 8:37pm

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Originally Posted by Chris Cheese
I hate having to buy the disc to find out if it's messed up or not.
rent it, blockuster has it.
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post #12 of 32
3/5/08 at 3:14am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

I though the UK Little Mermaid DVD wasn't too bad, compared to what I was expecting from reviews of the Region one. Anyone done any comparisons?
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post #13 of 32
3/5/08 at 2:03pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Stephen_J_H
The "transfer problems" on Jungle Book are insignificant next to The Little Mermaid's transfer and its sound mix. I'm waiting for a review as well.
Review up on DVDTalk: DVD Talk Review: 101 Dalmations - 2-Disc Platinum Edition. They say the transfer is miles ahead of the old and that the extras are better balanced than on some other Platinum titles.

I agree that there are problems with the transfer (and moreso with the sound mix) on the Little Mermaid, but there aren't thick, ugly lines throughout the solid colors during the entirety of the film on the Little Mermaid, which puts it way ahead of the butchering they did to Jungle Book.

And a DVD Talk review doesn't mean a thing to me, since they said all the previously-messed up Disney films looked great too.
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post #14 of 32
3/5/08 at 5:00pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Yeah. I've got the last release. I'd need to know that this new one is lightyears ahead in PQ/SQ before I'd double-dip in SD.

It is. IMO
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post #15 of 32
3/5/08 at 7:35pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Chris Cheese
I agree that there are problems with the transfer (and moreso with the sound mix) on the Little Mermaid, but there aren't thick, ugly lines throughout the solid colors during the entirety of the film on the Little Mermaid, which puts it way ahead of the butchering they did to Jungle Book.

And a DVD Talk review doesn't mean a thing to me, since they said all the previously-messed up Disney films looked great too.
Just passing the info along. I don't put a lot of stock in DVD Talk's reviews in terms of picture quality either. As for the colour banding issues on The Jungle Book, I went over the release with a fine tooth come and saw no issues. The conclusion I reached was that it was something funky going on in the upscaling processors, as I'm currently using a 480i 16:9 display.
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post #16 of 32
3/6/08 at 6:28am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

One Hundred and One Dalmations looks great. And the documentary is great too. I learned what I've always wanted to know about the Xerox process and the visual style of the film.

-Reagan
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post #17 of 32
3/6/08 at 6:49am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

Since people keep posting comments in this thread, I just thought I'd let everyone know--in case they missed it--that Matt's review has been posted for awhile now.
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post #18 of 32
3/7/08 at 10:10am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Powell&Pressburger
Good news is we finally are getting trailers/ tv spots and radio spots on 101 Dalmatians which all there most recent DVD releases were omitting them. That is a plus. But yeah nothing can compre to the artwork we could get on teh old laserdisc sets. I guess those days are over.

The bad news is that they've started having the Disney Channel stars re-record some of the songs. The Curella De Vil one on this disc is chilling, and not in a good way .
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post #19 of 32
3/7/08 at 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by Jeff Swindoll
The bad news is that they've started having the Disney Channel stars re-record some of the songs. The Curella De Vil one on this disc is chilling, and not in a good way .

I don't even watch those. They angry up the blood.

For what it's worth, the laserdisc in 1998 also claimed that 1.33:1 was the OAR.
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post #20 of 32
3/9/08 at 9:02am

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Originally Posted by MatthewA
For what it's worth, the laserdisc in 1998 also claimed that 1.33:1 was the OAR.
is another source claiming otherwise?
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post #21 of 32
3/9/08 at 2:22pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Bo_Darville
is another source claiming otherwise?

Bo: if you read Matt's review (I posted the link above in #17), you'll see the typical back-and-forth about Disney films of this vintage which were animated in a full 4:3 ratio and composed thusly, but with a safe eye towards a 1.78:1 ratio since that's how most theaters in the day were set up for projection.
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post #22 of 32
3/15/08 at 1:21pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

I just got my copy yesterday. It took me 3-5 minutes to get by all the "garbage" at the beginning! Is there some quick way to get around this? Hitting "menu" does not work. Just hitting the next chapter button.

I don't like the case it comes in. To open the box, you have to pull out 2 catches on the side. Are many boxes in the US like this, I have some with this.
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post #23 of 32
3/15/08 at 2:53pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

The cases are not very common but Disney tends to use them for their Platinum releases and the like. I'm not sure if they're supposed to be some kind of lock to keep children from messing up the discs.
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post #24 of 32
3/15/08 at 3:20pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Kris Z.
The cases are not very common but Disney tends to use them for their Platinum releases and the like. I'm not sure if they're supposed to be some kind of lock to keep children from messing up the discs.

They are an in-store theft deterrent. They make it that much harder for someone to slit open the cellophane wrapper and slide a disc out.

If you don't like them at home...the clips are made to be snapped off to facilitate the ease of opening and closing the cases.
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post #25 of 32
3/15/08 at 9:10pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
They are an in-store theft deterrent. They make it that much harder for someone to slit open the cellophane wrapper and slide a disc out.

How exactly does one just "slide a disc out?" How does he get it off the hub without fully opening the case and using his fingers?
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post #26 of 32
3/15/08 at 9:16pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

pretty easy to get a disc out if you can get the front side open.
i work in retail and find empty cases all the time that just have the front slit open and no dvd inside.
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post #27 of 32
3/15/08 at 9:25pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by cafink
How exactly does one just "slide a disc out?" How does he get it off the hub without fully opening the case and using his fingers?

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Originally Posted by TonyD
pretty easy to get a disc out if you can get the front side open.
i work in retail and find empty cases all the time that just have the front slit open and no dvd inside.

Like Tony says...

Many years ago, I took a DVD up to the clerk at Best Buy for purchase...and the clerk saw the slit in the wrapping and told me to go back and get another one off the shelf. I was amazed. I hadn't even noticed the slit! Just think how ticked I would have been if I had gotten it home, opened it and no disc! Somehow I doubt the store would have believed me that there was no disc when I opened it.

It's a real shame.
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post #28 of 32
3/16/08 at 7:32pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

^ I once bought a disc that had the main/front anti-theft sticker slit inside pristine shrinkwrap. This disc was also inside a pristine shrinkwrapped box set that had the studio logo on the wrap. Of course I couldn't see the problem externally. So I can only assume this can happen even before they get to the stores. Sure would like to know how they do it, must take lots younger fingers than mine...

I would say the majority of movie (not TV) discs I've bought lately have the tabs, especially the bulk of those from the U.S., maybe just the luck of my choices.
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post #29 of 32
3/16/08 at 9:04pm

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

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Originally Posted by CraigF
Sure would like to know how they do it, must take lots younger fingers than mine...

I can sure relate to that!
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post #30 of 32
3/17/08 at 6:33am

Re: 101 DALMATIANS: This is a Platinum Edition...?

I still don't understand how one gets a DVD through a slit. What is the "front side" of the DVD case? The actual front of the case? Or the side along which it opens (where the tabs are)?
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