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Originally Posted by Phil Carter
Yeah, I think "Underworld" is next on my list of pickups for games, either that one or "Motor Storm: Pacific Rift". Both of them look damned cool and lots of fun.

Yes, IMO "TR:Underworld" is 8/10, but then again I´m an old fan. The "adventure" works in that game (old-school Lara), but the "action" doesn´t. You may want to try also "Uncharted: Drake's Fortune" - solid action-adventure game also (and where the action works).

If you like basic FPS-action, try "Resistance 2" (or even the first one - since R2 continues the story - R1 is now "greatest hits" title: Amazon.com: Resistance: Fall Of Man: Video Games ).

Then of course "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots" (just prepare for a long cut-scenes), probably the best game of the year 2008 (IMO!).

"LittleBigPlanet" is also great and "Warhawk" is fun online multiplayer-game (=you can only play it in online), although a bit older now.

That should get your started. Of course there are several great "multiformat"-games (in both PS3/Xbox 360) out there besides these "PS3 exclusives".

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Originally Posted by Phil Carter
I did some hunting yesterday too. Apparently one can FORCE PoP to 1080p by turning off all other resolutions in the PS3's display settings. Seems kind of foolish to me, particularly when the native res is (as you said) 720p. Still looks good, though.

Do you have a 1080p-TV? If yes, then the tv eventually "upscales" that 720p to 1080p (since 1080p-tv has only one "native resolution"), IF your PS3/DVD/Blu-ray-player doesn´t.
post #692 of 727

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Mark: Yeah, I got hold of the demo for Motor Storm after buying the a PS3 and the full game for my brother for Christmas and playing the hell out of it for a couple days while he was still in town. Sadly, it doesn't compare to the real thing, with only three lousy vehicles and one track to pick from. Definitely need to acquire it, though.

Jari, yes, I have a Samsung PN50A650 1080p native plasma set. It starts out at 1080p resolution when running the standard Playstation menu, for example, but switches back to 720p resolution when the game starts. Not that big a deal, really, now that I know the game's own native res is 720p.

Thanks also for the recommendations! I tend to like driving games and RPGs mostly, but the odd action game too (can't WAIT for Final Fantasy XIII and God of War III). I think the TR game and Motor Storm will be my next pickups (after I finish Heavenly Sword and PoP, that is).

cheers,
Phil
post #693 of 727

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Originally Posted by Phil Carter
I have a Samsung PN50A650 1080p native plasma set. It starts out at 1080p resolution when running the standard Playstation menu, for example, but switches back to 720p resolution when the game starts. Not that big a deal, really, now that I know the game's own native res is 720p.

Since your plasma is 1080p, I guess it then upscales that 720p to 1080p. If your PS3 doesn´t do that.
post #694 of 727

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Update 2.60 is now available.

It's a minor update, but unfortunately there's no indication as to whether it fixed the problems update 2.53 had (ruining a lot of PS3 consoles) other than mention of "Improved System Stability".

These are the supposed features:

# Guest access to PlayStation Store – This enables non-PlayStation Network members to browse through the storefront to check out the latest games, demos, videos, etc.
# DivX 3.11 support – Videos in this format can now be played on PS3.
* Safe Mode
* Blu-Ray Disc Theme Support
* HDD Data can be accessed and deleted in-game
* 3-D Secure Support
* Improved System Stability

There is also a new downloadable Photo Gallery application, made available after the system update:

PlayStation.Blog Upcoming PS3 Firmware (v2.60) Update

Quote:
The PS3 firmware update (v2.60) is designed primarily to enhance the system’s media capabilities. The key feature is a new Photo Gallery application, which delivers a suite of tools for sorting through and displaying your digital photo collection. Digital pictures can be organized in groups according to various criteria, including the camera used to take the photos, the event date and time, colors in the photos, as well as the number, ages, or facial expressions of the people pictured. You can also create slideshows set to music and build photo playlists with an easy-to-use interface. The Photo Gallery application will need to be installed separately from the XMB after you update your PS3’s firmware. To install the Photo Gallery application, go to the Photo section on the XMB, select Photo Gallery and press the X button.
post #695 of 727

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Installed firmware 2.60 yesterday, along with Photo Gallery application. It´s nice that Sony keeps these coming.
post #696 of 727

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I'm very hesitant to install ANY updates now, because of the risk of ruining my PS3 like 2.53 seemed to do with a lot of other people's consoles. I don't care about the gallery, but I can't use the internet (and therefore can't access PSN or BD Live features) until I do update.

Of course, losing those features is a tiny price to pay compared to the risk of losing the entire console's capabilities.
post #697 of 727

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
Of course, losing those features is a tiny price to pay compared to the risk of losing the entire console's capabilities.

I'm not fully following you. Where´s the "risk"? I just said that I did the update and I´m sure you´ll find loads of similar people in several other forums (try e.g. official PS-forums).

Sure, it´s your PS3 and all that, but these firmware updates are there to make PS3 even "better" than it´s now. And, since there´ll be other updates in the future, you´ve a long wait ahead of you.

I couldn´t be without internet access etc with my PS3, not even for a few days. New games seems to have new "patches" (and such) quite frequently and new stuff is coming all the time to the PSN.
post #698 of 727

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Did v2.53 somehow kill internet capabilities? I'm still running v2.3, and whatever basic internet capabilities (eg. BD-Live, basic web browsing w/out Flash) along w/ all BD playback (as far as I can tell) still work fine for me. No real interest in downloading stuff off PSN yet, which is partly why many of these updates don't interest me much.

I guess the photo gallery app might interest me if/whenever I get around to putting a photo album on my PS3, but I'm sooooo very backed up on photo processing/management tasks that using my PS3 for this has been put on hold indefinitely.

_Man_
post #699 of 727

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In the long history of updates for the PS3 I am only aware of one that hosed people's PS3s. Sony quickly pulled that update (literally within the same day it was released) and reissued a new firmware within the week.

Other than that, I've heard of nothing but good things when updating. I've always updated within 2 days of a patch being released and nothing bad has happened yet (knock on wood).
post #700 of 727

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Originally Posted by Jari K
I'm not fully following you. Where´s the "risk"? I just said that I did the update and I´m sure you´ll find loads of similar people in several other forums (try e.g. official PS-forums).

Actually, I'm saying that based entirely on the official Playstation.com forums. Update 2.53 screwed a lot of PS3s up and there are a LOT of complaints about it there. As for 2.60, so far there aren't any major complaints about it aside from the downloading time because of heavy update traffic on the server. I'm saying I'm not sure I want to risk it since things are just fine with mine, except for the internet.

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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
Did v2.53 somehow kill internet capabilities? I'm still running v2.3, and whatever basic internet capabilities (eg. BD-Live, basic web browsing w/out Flash) along w/ all BD playback (as far as I can tell) still work fine for me. No real interest in downloading stuff off PSN yet, which is partly why many of these updates don't interest me much.

It didn't kill the internet, it just doesn't allow you to use the internet without updating to 2.53 first.

The PSN is limited content-wise here in Canada, so aside from a couple of movie trailers it's all games. I'm not a gamer anyway, except I have two demos on the PS3 - Nascar 09 and MotoGP. I like driving randomly on the former and falling off the bike in funny ways on the latter.
post #701 of 727

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
Actually, I'm saying that based entirely on the official Playstation.com forums. Update 2.53 screwed a lot of PS3s up and there are a LOT of complaints about it there. As for 2.60, so far there aren't any major complaints about it aside from the downloading time because of heavy update traffic on the server. I'm saying I'm not sure I want to risk it since things are just fine with mine, except for the internet.
That forum is unreliable at best. There's always a subsect of people who say "this update bricked my PS3" and of course we have to take them at their word. Ah the protection that the anonymity of the internet provides!

I would trust some of the third party reporting sites (various game mag sites) to call out truly problematic glitches, like they did for that glitchy one a few months back, more than I would trust that forum. Heck, a percentage of those "affected by updates" are probably 360 fanboys who are trying to badmouth the PS3. Just as I'm sure if you go over to a 360 message board you'll find PS3 fanboys doing the same thing.
post #702 of 727

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I'm not a member of the forum, (though I suppose we all are technically if we are signed up for PSN) so I just googled something like "PS3 update 2.53" and that came up. It was the official forum so I read what was there. Nothing more to it.
post #703 of 727

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It´s a bit confusing when it comes to these forums, since there´s "console war" going on (sadly, it´ll quickly ruin every decent discussion) and it´s probably best not to believe everything you read..

There were some issues with firmware v2.40 with CERTAIN people (not with everyone). This was of course, a problem for this certain group of people, no doubt.

**

PlayStation.Blog Firmware (v.2.40) Walkthrough Part 1: the XMB

After the problem was reported..:
Firmware 2.40 removed from update servers - PS3 Fanboy

Sony acknowledges firmware 2.40 problems - PS3 Fanboy

2.40 bricking caused by 'system administrative data' on hard disk - PS3 Fanboy

"There was a problem which "prevented a limited number of PS3s from activating properly after updating to version 2.40, when certain system administrative data were contained on the HDD."

**

It was rather quickly pulled and firmware 2.41 arrived instead (which was fine and worked how 2.40 should´ve worked):
PlayStation.Blog PS3 System Software Update (v2.41)

"As many of you know, we released PS3 firmware update v2.40 last week, but had to take it offline temporarily because, for a limited number of users, the XMB wouldn’t display after the update was installed. We’ve been able to fix the problem, and I’m happy to report that firmware update v2.41 will be released shortly."

PS3 firmware 2.41 now available - PS3 Fanboy

**

Now, this "v.2.40" is the only problem with PS3 firmware updates that I´m aware of. I have downloaded and installed all of them (I have the *first* 60gb PS3-model), and no issues so far.. Perhaps I got a bit lucky with v.2.40, since actually I didn´t notice that when it was first available (and then it was "pulled"). Usually I download/install these updates quite early on (when they arrive).

So: The "problem" was with v2.40, and now it´s v2.60. I´m sure it´s safe to say, that everything is back to normal now (in the world of electronics/software, nothing is 100% certain obviously.. just ask MS.. ).
post #704 of 727

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When I bought my 40GB PS3, 2.41 was what it came with, so I wasn't aware of that 2.40 problem.
post #705 of 727

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Totally OT, but PS3-related: is there any good reason why the PS3 couldn't have a nice little internet radio interface?

I suppose the obvious reason is Sony wouldn't make any money on it, but they have the photo viewer things and I wouldn't think a convenient IR front end would be much more difficult...just one little added-value feature now that the PS3 is a somewhat expensive BDP if that's your main intention for it. (I know there are apps in Linux, but on the "Sony" side would be more convenient.)
post #706 of 727

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Originally Posted by CraigF
Totally OT, but PS3-related: is there any good reason why the PS3 couldn't have a nice little internet radio interface?

I suppose the obvious reason is Sony wouldn't make any money on it, but they have the photo viewer things and I wouldn't think a convenient IR front end would be much more difficult...just one little added-value feature now that the PS3 is a somewhat expensive BDP if that's your main intention for it. (I know there are apps in Linux, but on the "Sony" side would be more convenient.)
LOL - It sounds like SONY is willing to support IR or ANY kind.
post #707 of 727

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^ Yeah I know, not supporting the "other" IR was just stubborness on their part, since it costs "nothing". If the BT was so great for everybody they would choose the BT remote, no need to force it. But as I have often said, I really don't think they intended the PS3 to mainly be a BD player and integrate into HT systems, it just worked out that way (due to the other including Sony's mainly lousy players) at the time. The BT is nice enough though when it's use-appropriate.
post #708 of 727

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There are lots of people who are using Hacked PS3s (firmware hack, and there is also a chip hack) that lets them... do things that were not intended. And yes, there have been reports that after firmware flashes some of them get bricked.

In the end, if you decide to modify your unit, you knew you were taking a chance of this happening. I see the posts on the playstation forum and follow it up on forums about modding, and they always seem to line up.
post #709 of 727

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I'm not about to hack or mod my PS3 for anything. I'd have to be all kinds of dumb-assed to mess around with a $400 piece of technology, which is my favoritest of favorite toys. I'll just wait for a more substantial update, like if they introduce Divx 7 support or something big like that.
post #710 of 727

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Originally Posted by Jari K
**Changing the hard drive, pt.1**

Okay, first part of the project is done. New 320GB "Western Digital Scorpio" (2.5" SATA-300 5400rpm) hard drive is now installed to my PS3.

1) First I used "Backup Utility" ( PS3™ | Backup Utility ) from the PS3 menu and moved (approx) 40gb worth of stuff to the external USB 2.0 hard drive (which was already formatted to "FAT 32", which should be the case). This took over an hour.

2) After that (just in case), I moved all my "game save" files to the memory stick. You don´t want to lose those..

3) Then the actual hard drive install. Everything was easy to the point where we needed to remove those four little screws from the sides of the "rack" (is it called caddy?) where the "original" hard drive is. At least in my unit, they were so tight, that my screwdriver(s) just didn´t do the trick. NOTE: If they´re really tight (like in my case), you can damage the screws with your screwdriver and it´s hard to screw them back (so if the screwdriver you are using is slipping, stop using it - don´t use "force"). So, we used a proper Leatherman and pliers in that. You (eeeasy) rotate the screws out one at the time.

Don´t worry, this is the hardest part (and perhaps not that hard with all units).

4) Then you just slide the new hard drive into the rail kit (same way as the old one), put those screws back in and place the rail kit back to the PS3 (remember the last screw before the plastic cover). And you´re done.

5) Now you put the HDMI/component cable back and turn the power back on. PS3 will ask you to "format" the hard drive. You click "yes". This is very fast and you´re back to PS3 menu (I guess some of that basic stuff is stored to the flash memory or something, since my user account was still there etc).

I also went to the "System Settings" => "System Information" to check the "new" hard disk capacity ("A portion of the hard disk capacity is reserved for use in connection with system administration, maintenance, and additional options").

6) Since I read, that it´s best to do "full format" with the new hard drives, I went back to the menu and chose "Format Utility" and then "full format". Bad news: It says, that it takes over 18 hours (yes, 18, not even 8..), so it´ll take some time before I can start bringing the stuff back to my PS3..

(to be continued...)

edit: One visual guide also here:
** How-To Guide to Upgrading Your Hard Drive ** Updated 12/1 - PLAYSTATION®3 Media - PlayStation.com Forums

**Changing the hard drive, pt.2**

7) When the new hard drive (in PS3) has been fully formatted, then you hook up your external USB hard drive again and choose "Backup Utility" from the PS3 menu. Now you choose "Restore" and click "yes". It´ll now fully restore the stuff from the "old" PS3 hard drive back to the new one (this will again take some time if you have plenty of stuff).

Best part: Everything will be back; games, saves, photos, MP3s, settings, user accounts, passwords, etc. So yes: Also GAMES will be back (no need to DL those again). To me it looked 100% identical to the old hard drive.

Just wanted to bring my older post back "up" and say, that my friend just recently changed 500gb hard drive (Western Digital - Scorpio Blue - 500GB 2.5" Internal SATA) to his PS3. Working just fine. My other friend is about to do the same. Damn, I have "only" 320gb..

So with a little additional investment, you don´t really have to worry about space (well, the lack of it) with your PS3 anymore. Recommended.
post #711 of 727

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PS3 firmware v2.70 now available:

PS3 Firmware (v2.70) Update - PlayStation.Blog

*Text Chat feature - that enables you to communicate online with your PlayStation Network friends. Now, you’ll be able to chat with up to 15 online friends using the Wireless Keypad, on-screen keyboard, or other compatible keyboard peripherals. Not only can you chat with your friends instantly, but you can also access Text Chat while playing PS3 games and even participate in up to three chat rooms at once.

*Friends list on the XMB (XrossMediaBar)
-Sort your friends via their online status
-Attach larger files to the messages you send to your friends (file size will increase from 1MB to 3MB)

*Video delivery service on PlayStation Store
-Video files you’ve purchased from the PlayStation Store can be backed up to an external storage device and then restored to PS3’s internal hard drive for playback – so you can clear up space on your hard drive and then restore the video anytime in the future
-Videos you’ve purchased for PSP (PlayStation Portable) system can now be transferred to PS3 for playback
post #712 of 727

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I did my first on-line update the other night (I'd always downloaded from the internet onto a USB flash drive and upgraded from it). Took about the same amount of time regardless of which method employed.
post #713 of 727

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One of the other things 2.70 fixed was the IMO ridiculous way the PS3 sent out stereo CD music over HDMI as multi-channel PCM instead of as stereo. Haven't checked if it's fixed for other stereo music yet, like MP3/WMA/WAV. If you don't know why this was irritating to many, it won't matter to you but I appreciate it.
post #714 of 727

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^^If you mean irritating because it meant that there was no way to use any kind of upmix for listening (all channel stereo, pro-logic, Neo:6, or other DSP, etc) then I hear ya.
post #715 of 727

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Besides the internet option, that is all the new update right?
post #716 of 727

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what is the internet option?
post #717 of 727

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Originally Posted by Jari K
PS3 firmware v2.70 now available:

PS3 Firmware (v2.70) Update - PlayStation.Blog

*Text Chat feature - that enables you to communicate online with your PlayStation Network friends. Now, you’ll be able to chat with up to 15 online friends using the Wireless Keypad, on-screen keyboard, or other compatible keyboard peripherals. Not only can you chat with your friends instantly, but you can also access Text Chat while playing PS3 games and even participate in up to three chat rooms at once.

*Friends list on the XMB (XrossMediaBar)
-Sort your friends via their online status
-Attach larger files to the messages you send to your friends (file size will increase from 1MB to 3MB)

*Video delivery service on PlayStation Store
-Video files you’ve purchased from the PlayStation Store can be backed up to an external storage device and then restored to PS3’s internal hard drive for playback – so you can clear up space on your hard drive and then restore the video anytime in the future
-Videos you’ve purchased for PSP (PlayStation Portable) system can now be transferred to PS3 for playback
This threat is what I am referring to.
post #718 of 727

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Originally Posted by ralphPerez
Besides the internet option, that is all the new update right?
ok well you said,"the internet option" I thought you were referencing
something specific.
post #719 of 727

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Well thanks for replying, like your location, ha, ha.
post #720 of 727

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
^^If you mean irritating because it meant that there was no way to use any kind of upmix for listening (all channel stereo, pro-logic, Neo:6, or other DSP, etc) then I hear ya.

Yes, that's what I meant.

I think it was just last week I whinged (elsewhere, where people do such things...) that I couldn't believe that this hadn't been fixed by now. I guess it had a low priority compared to things that make more $$.

The next part to fix is: why do CDs sound so awful over HDMI, and DVD/BD/MP3/etc. sound so decent? It seems to just be Redbook CD sound that is processed in some unique and devastating way. Not that I don't have better CD players to use, but the PS3 should be able to do this so much better that it sticks out to me.
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