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post #241 of 727
3/26/08 at 5:41am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
Someone recently posted about an upcoming, more elegant, more complete solution somewhere over here, if you need power on/off feature. It's more pricy of course, but sounds like it might be worth waiting for, if you need that.

Ok, here yah go:

IR2BT - InfraRed to BlueTooth Converter for the PS3

_Man_

Schmartz.com is also working on an infrared to bluetooth converter. The developer has posted updates over at AVS but nothing is on the site yet.
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post #242 of 727
3/26/08 at 8:20am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by Grant H
Make sure your router is set to an open network, not shared. That was my problem.

Finally got it hooked up had to call my ISP and they went by the Ports settings as describe by a call to Sony about the PS3 ports.

Thanks anyways
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post #243 of 727
3/26/08 at 10:02am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

It seems that the 2.2 firmware update has disabled the power on/off feature of the schmartz PS3IR+PWR. There looks to be a workaround with a powered USB hub, etc. but with this problem, in combination with the ir2bt about to become available, the developer just posted this over at AVS about his own ir to bt product:

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Sounds like I need to take the wraps off of my (fully supported) version. I've been taking extra time to get volume production going and doing extreme testing before I announce but, this changes things. I'm close to being satisfied it's ready anyway

Sounds like his newest product will be making his previous one obsolete.
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post #244 of 727
4/6/08 at 6:29am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

I was lucky enough to win $2800.
So I made the leap to Blu-Ray today and bought a PS3 and a nice 32" Samsung TV.

Already having this for about a day, I'm SO glad I made the leap to Blu-Ray.
Having previously been an owner to HD DVD, I knew what I was basically in for.

But this PS3 is quite the machine.

ANOTHER proud Blu-ray owner
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post #245 of 727
4/6/08 at 9:30am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Congrats, John! (Wow, $2800!)


Cees
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post #246 of 727
4/7/08 at 2:08pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by JohnS
I was lucky enough to win $2800.
So I made the leap to Blu-Ray today and bought a PS3 and a nice 32" Samsung TV.

Already having this for about a day, I'm SO glad I made the leap to Blu-Ray.
Having previously been an owner to HD DVD, I knew what I was basically in for.

But this PS3 is quite the machine.

ANOTHER proud Blu-ray owner

AKA tax return!

It sure is quite the machine. In my upstairs system, it's essentially the hub.
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post #247 of 727
4/9/08 at 12:42am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Some DTS-HD firmware update rumors (interview with SCE engineers about 2.20 update):

Interview with SCE engineers reveal BD-Live, firmware plans - PS3 Fanboy

Interview with SCE Engineers about PS3 Firmware 2.20 - NeoGAF

**"As for 1080 deinterlacing and DTS-HD MA, "please look forward to them."**

What we still need is a bitstream-support for HD-audio. Planning to get new HDMI 1.3 receiver in next month, so that would be great update.
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post #248 of 727
4/9/08 at 10:09am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

I think the hardware limitations may prevent bitstream support for HD audio. After all, if it's not HDMI 1.3, it's not. The end.

However, as long as it can internally decode it and send it LPCM I'll be happy. It can already do that for TrueHD. Just need it for DTS-HD MA.
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post #249 of 727
4/9/08 at 2:15pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

But the PS3 is HDMI 1.3, is it not? I thought it was the first Blu-ray player that was.
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post #250 of 727
4/9/08 at 2:21pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

why is brandon saying it isn't?

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post #251 of 727
4/9/08 at 2:39pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

I can't remember where I read it (and it was on the web, so even if I did, it may be incorrect) but I believe that in the early stages of HDMI 1.3 there were actually two flavors, and the implementation the PS3 used was of the variety that could not pass the bitstream of the new HD CODECS via HDMI.

The only hope, according to those who were posting that information, was that the PS3 would internally decode the soundtracks internally and transmit them via PCM 5.1 through HDMI.

Again, this is just from memory, take it with a huge grain of salt.
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post #252 of 727
4/9/08 at 3:44pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by MattH.
But the PS3 is HDMI 1.3, is it not? I thought it was the first Blu-ray player that was.

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Originally Posted by TonyD
why is brandon saying it isn't?

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Originally Posted by Carlo Medina
I believe that in the early stages of HDMI 1.3 there were actually two flavors, and the implementation the PS3 used was of the variety that could not pass the bitstream of the new HD CODECS via HDMI.
Carlo is correct.

The June 1, 2007 thread:

Caution: HDMI 1.3 - one chip is obsolete and one has Advanced audio capability explains and pretty well covers it.

Paul
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post #253 of 727
4/9/08 at 7:43pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by Paul Hillenbrand
Carlo is correct.

The June 1, 2007 thread:

Caution: HDMI 1.3 - one chip is obsolete and one has Advanced audio capability explains and pretty well covers it.

Paul

Paul,

I'm looking at that thread now (and also the posts mentioned in AVS), but I do *not* see where it actually says (or even implies clearly enough) the PS3 can *not* support bitstreaming of advanced lossless audio codecs.

Can you clarify for me exactly where you see that suggested?

Offhand, I could only guess that maybe the PS3's HDMI hardware has an upper limit on audio bandwidth that just happens to fall between the required LPCM bandwidth, which is pretty high itself, and whatever max (but not sustained) requirement for the advanced codecs. Whatever the PS3 has, it'd need to at least handle the LPCM bandwidth, and that's not exactly small either.

_Man_
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post #254 of 727
4/9/08 at 9:44pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by Paul Hillenbrand
Carlo is correct.
Just cause I hear it so infrequently
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post #255 of 727
4/9/08 at 10:27pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Bitstream support is not required for HDMI 1.3, it is optional.
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post #256 of 727
4/9/08 at 11:28pm

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by Brandon Conway
I think the hardware limitations may prevent bitstream support for HD audio. After all, if it's not HDMI 1.3, it's not. The end.

The end? PS3 has HDMI 1.3. It´s not that end..

Yes, I´ve been reading these rumors that PS3 can´t support "bitstream", but until I hear something "official" (haven´t read the linked thread yet, though), it´s "unconfirmed".

Since I´ll get Yamaha v1800 A/V receiver soon, I definitely want "HD-bitstream"-support to my player. It´s boring if every HD-audio is marked "PCM" on my receiver.. I wan to see "TrueHD" and "DTS-MA" on the display!

Well, PS3 has been great so far and the (possible) lack of bitstream is not a deal breaker. I´ll probably get the stand-alone player in any case in the future (which will have everything!)..
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post #257 of 727
4/10/08 at 3:36am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Some (more minor) new features coming:

"iPhone to Become Blu-Ray Player Remote"
Blu-ray Magic: iPhone to Become Blu-Ray Player Remote
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post #258 of 727
4/10/08 at 6:09am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

DTS-HD hitting the PS3 April 15th.

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DTS-HD Master Audio(TM) Now Available for PLAYSTATION(R)3 Computer Entertainment System

Advanced Codec Raises Bar for High Definition Entertainment

More Than One Hundred Blu-ray Movies / Concert Videos Featuring
Premium DTS-HD Master Audio(TM) Soundtracks Available
AGOURA HILLS, Calif.--(Business Wire)--
DTS, Inc. (NASDAQTSI), a digital audio technology company
dedicated to delivering the ultimate entertainment experience, has
announced that its DTS-HD Master Audio(TM) technology is now available
for the PLAYSTATION(R)3 (PS3(TM)) computer entertainment system.
DTS-HD Master Audio is capable of delivering audio that is bit-for-bit
identical to the studio master at super high variable bit rates (up to
24.5 Mbps on Blu-ray(TM) Discs). This bit stream is so fast and the
transfer rate so high that it can deliver 7.1 audio channel,
96k/24-bit sound identical to the original studio master. DTS'
single-bit-stream codec design enables supremely efficient content
programming and consumer playback. The new PS3 with DTS-HD Master
Audio will be available by simply downloading the upcoming firmware
upgrade on April 15th, 2008.

"We are extremely pleased that Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE)
is adding the full spectrum premium DTS-HD Master Audio codec into the
PS3 so that more than 10 million owners of one of the best selling
computer entertainment systems can have the best sounding, most
efficient and flexible audio technology available as well," said Brian
Towne, Senior Vice President and General Manager, Consumer Division at
DTS. "DTS-HD Master Audio is fast becoming the must-have feature for
high definition entertainment enthusiasts."

"PS3 was designed to enable delivery of new and improved
technologies like DTS-HD Master Audio," said Teiji Yutaka, Senior Vice
President, Software Platform Development, SCE. "So we are delighted to
be able to offer this capability to PS3 users."
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post #259 of 727
4/10/08 at 6:21am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Great! At last!

...now all I need is that new Onkyo amp I've been wanting for some time now...
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post #260 of 727
4/10/08 at 6:25am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Wow! Great. Link please.
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post #261 of 727
4/10/08 at 6:54am

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From the official Playstation Blog:

PlayStation.Blog » Firmware (v.2.30) Details and Store Walkthrough
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post #262 of 727
4/10/08 at 7:02am

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Very cool news.
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post #263 of 727
4/10/08 at 7:06am

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Originally Posted by Romier S

And from the DTS site: DTS - We Bring Entertainment Alive!
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post #264 of 727
4/10/08 at 7:34am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

I couldn't be more excited about an announcement! This is TERRIFIC news!
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post #265 of 727
4/10/08 at 7:53am

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Wow, this is great news! I'm guessing that the 15th April date is for those of us with PS3s outside of the US also?
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post #266 of 727
4/10/08 at 8:16am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
Paul..........I do *not* see where it actually says (or even implies clearly enough) the PS3 can *not* support bitstreaming of advanced lossless audio codecs.

Can you clarify for me exactly where you see that suggested?

_Man_
Taken from the AVS information on the thread: On Post#169 from the first Link It was clarified that:
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Originally Posted by Paul H
Let me please get this straight for clarification.

The VastLane SiI 9133, is an advanced dual-input HDMI receiver chip that will only enable HDTVs to display Deep color....................

You will need the Si9134 chip for transmission of the bitstream output of the advanced authored lossless audio codecs and the Si9135 chip to receive this High Bitrate Audio transmission.

Correct?
From same Post#169:
Quote:
Originally Posted by dr1394
Yes.

Ron

From what is known:
The PS3 used the first HDMI 1.3 chip made available for consumer electronics.

The first chip in consumer electroincs is: "The VastLane SiI 9133, ... an advanced dual-input HDMI receiver chip that will only enable HDTVs to display Deep color."

Unless there is a different HDMI1.3 model # chip in the PS3 (Edit: Si9134 transmission chip or later), the hardware cannot support the "bitstream output of the advanced authored lossless audio codecs".

Paul
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post #267 of 727
4/10/08 at 8:37am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

DTS HD MA
NO Bitstream

the END!
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post #268 of 727
4/10/08 at 8:48am

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I'm so happy I could cry. For ages I've thought I was just going to have to bite the bullet and replace the Onkyo 604 I just bought a year and a half ago if I wanted to take advantage of DTS-MA, or wait until a BD 2.0 player with DTS-MA decoding and analog outs was released for $500-$600. Now I don't have to spend hundreds to be able to enjoy DTS-HD and DTS-MA.
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post #269 of 727
4/10/08 at 8:53am

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WOW, this is SO cool. Finally I can use my Integra pre/pro to it's fullest. I am stoked. You can hear the collective cheers from PS3 owners across the US!

More from EngadgetHD:

PS3 firmware v2.30 walkthrough: DTS-HD MA support / new PS Store included - Engadget HD
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post #270 of 727
4/10/08 at 9:38am

Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...

Sorry for the confusion. It appears I was wrongly informed at a previous time as to the HDMI type. What I was attempting to get at was what Carlo and Paul detail - the hardware chip used makes it limited in possible use of bitstream. HDMI 1.2, 1.3, 1.3a, 1.3b, whatever, the point is that it can't do it.

Great to hear about the LPCM support, though.
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