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post #31 of 114
12/20/07 at 3:42am

Re: Are there Blu-ray replication problems with Blade Runner?!

There is a problem with the blu-ray edition.

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some BD packages are apparently arriving with duplicated discs. More speficially, a growing number of individuals are claiming that their Disc 5 (correctly labeled as the rare Workprint edition) is actually a copy of Disc 1 (the Final Cut iteration).

Blade Runner Blu-ray Complete Edition arriving with botched Workprint disc? - Engadget HD



I ordered two sets! Can't they do these major releases correctly anymore? Jeez!
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post #32 of 114
12/20/07 at 5:36am

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I had this on pre-order since July 31st, and i chose standard shipping. since Monday morning it has been in "shipping soon" hell! Today, now 3 days past release day, i got an e mail saying it will arrive Dec. 24th. I had called Amazon last night to ask what was up. Why an order placed almost 5 months ago is not filled, when i read about guys getting one after i did. Now i know, if you used overnight, you might have gotten one. The guy told me he couldnt upgrade the shipping or anything because its allocated, and getting ready to go. Course he also didnt offer to credit my shipping. I know its only 3 bucks, but whats the point of a 6 month pre-order if your not going to fill them. I have also read its a Warner distribution problem. They had the same problem with the Kubrick set, as others have said. No one seems to have stock now. But i could have, and would have gone to BB if i had known it was not really shipping. Amazon is playing games with this shipping soon crap, and its not!
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post #33 of 114
12/20/07 at 6:36am

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Originally Posted by Sam Davatchi

Checked my copy, and it's fine. *whew*
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post #34 of 114
12/20/07 at 6:42am

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
Get used to it if you want something by street day. There is no other online company that has worse customer service. If I want anything on time Amazon is that last place I'll buy. The local B&M's do so much better and usually at the same price or sometimes even better.

I use Amazon as a last resort for any shopping.

Any order for a New Release from Amazon of Late has gotton to me approx 1 week after release date. But I've been using some promo discounts and have gotton some good deals so I'll live with the wait.
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post #35 of 114
12/20/07 at 6:55am

Re: Are there Blu-ray replication problems with Blade Runner?!

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
...and I don't blame the studio for this. I am certain there are some things here that are out of their control.

Are you speculating, or do you know something you're not telling us?

Regardless, you're free to support Warner Bros. via whichever HDM format you choose, but it seems odd to create this thread with a question mark in the title if you already assumed replication issues exist.
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post #36 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:08am

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This would certainly seem to dampen any notion that Warner is ready to go BR exclusive (as was claimed in BusinessWeek recently).
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post #37 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:18am

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Originally Posted by RickER
I had this on pre-order since July 31st, and i chose standard shipping. since Monday morning it has been in "shipping soon" hell! Today, now 3 days past release day, i got an e mail saying it will arrive Dec. 24th. I had called Amazon last night to ask what was up. Why an order placed almost 5 months ago is not filled, when i read about guys getting one after i did. Now i know, if you used overnight, you might have gotten one. The guy told me he couldnt upgrade the shipping or anything because its allocated, and getting ready to go. Course he also didnt offer to credit my shipping. I know its only 3 bucks, but whats the point of a 6 month pre-order if your not going to fill them. I have also read its a Warner distribution problem. They had the same problem with the Kubrick set, as others have said. No one seems to have stock now. But i could have, and would have gone to BB if i had known it was not really shipping. Amazon is playing games with this shipping soon crap, and its not!


this is the exact conversation i had with them.

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Originally Posted by Cameron Yee
I ordered the 5-disc from Best Buy using a $10 off coupon they gave me after the Lost S3 BD mispricing and it is on its way.

I ordered it before I knew that I'm supposed to be getting a review copy from Warner. That has yet to show; the reviewer of the HD DVD got his last Thursday and just posted his review.


cameron, did you order a hdm version from Blockbuster.com?
i cant find a link to it online.
i couldnt find it on the in store version of the store either.
i work there , i had to go into the database to find it.
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post #38 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:24am

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Like others have said Ron, Warner got plenty of Harry Potter Blu-ray discs out. I think its Warners new crap distribution, AND the fact that maybe they underestimated how many people wanted the 5 disc set. Searching Best Buy shows me its all but sold out in Tulsa. They must have had 30 copies of the 4 disc set in the store nearest me, and now its gone in this region. The HD, Blu-ray, briefcase, all gone, and show a 1 to 2 week backorder. You can get the 2 disc, and thats the only one i saw in my local Wal-Mart when i went on my quest.
By the way, my 30 minute bitch session to Amazon last night must of paid off. My Blade Runner Blu-ray just shipped. The Amazon CS guy i talked to yesterday even sent me an e-mail, saying he saw i got an e mail showing a delay, but just disregard it. It was gonna ship, and now it has. I hope my little call helps with the 3 days "shipping soon" status, which was not a new problem for me. But it was the first time i PAID for shipping, and still i got service like i had clicked free shipping!
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post #39 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:49am

Re: Are there Blu-ray replication problems with Blade Runner?!

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
This has nothing to do with format neutrality. It has everything
to do with the fact that I see for one reason or another there's a
problem getting Blu-ray stocked with the largest online etailer and
screener copies out to reviewers. For that reason I simply refuse to
purchase any more WB Blu-ray releases. I'll continue to support the
studio through HD-DVD.

...and I don't blame the studio for this. I am certain there are
some things here that are out of their control.

Ron: I'm not getting this either. If you're not willing to lay blame at the feet of Warners, why boycott their BD product?

And, have there been other instances where Amazon has specifically let you down with WB BD product? Seems like maybe you should be looking more closely at Amazon's service rather than Warner's.
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post #40 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:53am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Seems like maybe you should be looking more closely at Amazon's service rather than Warner's.
Isn't the problem more widespread than just Amazon though? To me, it seems like the blame is on whoever is replicating Warners' Blu Ray discs (unless a problem with the packaging is slowing things down). Warners knew when they had to get the sets on the shelf and presumably met those deadlines but something must have been screwed up in the manufacturing process.
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post #41 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:58am

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Originally Posted by TravisR
Isn't the problem more widespread than just Amazon though? To me, it seems like the blame is on whoever is replicating Warners' Blu Ray discs (unless a problem with the packaging is slowing things down). Warners knew when they had to get the sets on the shelf and presumably met those deadlines but something must have been screwed up in the manufacturing process.

That's just it. I don't know.

That's why I'm curious about Ron's reaction to boycott the WB BD product. Is that just based on this one incident (the Blade Runner release)? Or, have there been other examples of this type of problem?

I don't know the history and am looking to find out.
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post #42 of 114
12/20/07 at 7:58am

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I got my shipping notice for the BD version this morning at 1 a.m. from Amazon. Pre-ordered for months, of course, but there you go.

I didn't get too upset because I have the HARRY POTTER box to get through, a bunch of other Blu-rays I've gotten as Christmas gifts, and have review copies of other things that are pending.
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post #43 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:11am
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Re: Are there Blu-ray replication problems with Blade Runner?!

I order all my HD discs from Amazon at a rate of about 6 or
more titles a month.

Never, ever had a delay to date. Amazon has been perfect in
delivering titles on time (or even a day early).

Initially, I stated I'm not blaming the studio directly because I
have heard that there have been replication delays at Blu-ray plants.
It's also obvious that there have been no replication problems
with HD-DVD as those titles have gotten to distributors on time.

I'm not positive what the problem is with Blade Runner, but it's
certainly not a situation affecting their HD-DVD release.

I'm very concerned about getting titles on time. When given a
choice between owning a title on HD-DVD or Blu-ray, I am going
to pick the format that has a consistent record of not getting delayed
due to production problems.
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post #44 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:24am

Re: Are there Blu-ray replication problems with Blade Runner?!

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
I'm very concerned about getting titles on time. When given a
choice between owning a title on HD-DVD or Blu-ray, I am going
to pick the format that has a consistent record of not getting delayed
due to production problems.

I certainly "get" wanting to have the titles on time, but if this is a one-time incident...why take the extreme stand of refusing to purchase any more WB BD releases?

Or, have there been other WB BD production delays I haven't heard about? That's where I'm curious.
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post #45 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:25am

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If you're not willing to lay blame at the feet of Warners, why boycott their BD product?
But it's not a "boycott" of Warners at all, since he IS buying the product from them.
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post #46 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:26am

Re: Are there Blu-ray replication problems with Blade Runner?!

Your saying HD has had no production problems [cough] combo discs[cough]? Course i guess you could argue they just send them out, or didnt find out til after the fact. Course its your choice to buy what you want, as is mine. But, while i know about replication problems for Blu-ray, i dont think its THAT widespread or they would have delayed the Blu-ray release. I tend to think its the allocation of product. We know many areas didnt even get 1 briefcase, while other areas had many. I could say maybe the Blu-ray sold THAT much better than the HD DVD? But i dont know that, just like i dont know if it had replication problems? I hope i dont sound like an ass. I just dont like the "problems" to sound like a fact, if it isnt so. My problem comes from amazon, who didnt ship what i ordered, but saw fit to lock me in with a "shipping soon" for 3 days after release.
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post #47 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:30am

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Your saying HD has had no production problems
He said replication, not production.
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post #48 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:31am

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just my own findings, the br case is not to be found anywhere in stock in borders or BB, none are even being shipped to these stores.

i havent been able to check at CC or other stores.
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post #49 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:42am

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Originally Posted by TonyD
just my own findings, the br case is not to be found anywhere in stock in borders or BB, none are even being shipped to these stores.

i havent been able to check at CC or other stores.

Its not just the BD thats hard to find. Even the 4 disc DVD is going scarce! I show 1 BB store in my area that even has any of those. Everything else is sold, and in only 3 days!
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post #50 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:42am

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The BD BR case is in-stock at Amazon right now.
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post #51 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:44am

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Sorry Rick, I bought the last one in Tulsa

I gave up on amazon and the like online guys because I just prefer that instant gratification.

None of the locals had this in stock much on either format. Target didn't have any. Walmart didn't have any. FYE didn't have any. I don't know if the ice storm had anything to do with it though.
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post #52 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:48am

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Originally Posted by RickER
Your saying HD has had no production problems [cough] combo discs[cough]? Course i guess you could argue they just send them out, or didnt find out til after the fact. Course its your choice to buy what you want, as is mine. But, while i know about replication problems for Blu-ray, i dont think its THAT widespread or they would have delayed the Blu-ray release. I tend to think its the allocation of product. We know many areas didnt even get 1 briefcase, while other areas had many. I could say maybe the Blu-ray sold THAT much better than the HD DVD? But i dont know that, just like i dont know if it had replication problems? I hope i dont sound like an ass. I just dont like the "problems" to sound like a fact, if it isnt so. My problem comes from amazon, who didnt ship what i ordered, but saw fit to lock me in with a "shipping soon" for 3 days after release.

Rick,

Are you an Amazon Prime member? It seems that Prime members are first in line no matter when it was ordered. I pre-ordered mine on November 2nd. It was scheduled to be delivered on the 20th, but I got it on the 18th.

Doug
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post #53 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:50am

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
Sorry Rick, I bought the last one in Tulsa

I gave up on amazon and the like online guys because I just prefer that instant gratification.

Well, at least it found a good home with another forum member!
I am an instant gratification guy myself. I think i need to go buy something to take the edge off. Usually i shrug this sort of thing off with a, i will get it when i get it, no hurry. But this is Blade Runner!
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post #54 of 114
12/20/07 at 8:54am

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Rick,

Are you an Amazon Prime member? It seems that Prime members are first in line no matter when it was ordered. I pre-ordered mine on November 2nd. It was scheduled to be delivered on the 20th, but I got it on the 18th.

Doug
Nope. I always felt i dont do enough business to warrant the cost, and i can usually wait. I do free shipping all the time. This was the first time in years i paid extra for shipping. It didnt help, but the call i made must have. I cannot fault Amazon customer service. They have always been helpful.
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post #55 of 114
12/20/07 at 9:09am

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein

I'm very concerned about getting titles on time. When given a
choice between owning a title on HD-DVD or Blu-ray, I am going
to pick the format that has a consistent record of not getting delayed
due to production problems.

Something interesting happened today. Like many, I had not shipped, then shipping soon - both looked very late compared to my shipping estimate. Suddenly, Amazon upgraded me to next day and it will be here today. This is the expected delivery date I've been seeing since late October.

I did nothing to make this happen. As a matter of fact, when I checked my account I could not see the order, even in last 6 months. I had to select 2007 orders, and there it was. Strange, but I'll take it.

I don't have prime, so it looks like Amazon is trying hard in my case. Hopefully, others will have a nice surprise like me.
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post #56 of 114
12/20/07 at 9:23am

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cameron, did you order a hdm version from Blockbuster.com?
i cant find a link to it online.
i couldnt find it on the in store version of the store either.
i work there , i had to go into the database to find it.
Whatever is the NON briefcase version from Best Buy.
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post #57 of 114
12/20/07 at 9:29am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Or, have there been other WB BD production delays I haven't heard about?
The most recent season of Smallville was delayed on BD for a few days, but that's probably all anybody knows about. I seem to recall a couple others, but those might be cases where we were speculating that exclusive studios are prioritized ahead of dual-format studios at the replication sites.
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post #58 of 114
12/20/07 at 9:53am

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
Get used to it if you want something by street day. There is no other online company that has worse customer service. If I want anything on time Amazon is that last place I'll buy. The local B&M's do so much better and usually at the same price or sometimes even better.

I use Amazon as a last resort for any shopping.

Worse customer service than Amazon? I've gone completely amazon-exclusive with the vast majority of my purchases.

No tax, free shipping (or if I want it fast, other options are available), and most of the time the best prices (especially with BOGOs and my additional 10% off for HDM). And if there is a drop in price 30 days later, an adjustment takes them about 30 seconds.

Are you using the same amazon that I am?

My Blade Runner Complete and Ultimate Collection's on Blu-Ray both shipped today (I did super saver shipping).

Seems the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD briefcases are limited to only 2500. Glad I got one to keep locked up.
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post #59 of 114
12/20/07 at 10:35am

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I got my BR briefcase from Amazon on Tuesday.
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post #60 of 114
12/20/07 at 10:44am

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Those of us getting the BRD make sure you checkout the fifth disc.

'Blade Runner' Blu-ray Suffers Manufacturing Glitch | High-Def Digest
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