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post #301 of 1907

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Audioscopiks

1935 short film in 3D is historically interesting, but not very good otherwise, and since it's not presented on dvd with 3d glasses, not even all that interesting.

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

Based on all I'd heard I was expecting at the very least a scary movie. What a disappointment. This is about as scary as Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein, for related, if different reasons.

Abbott & Costello is a comedy, so the 'horror' isn't scary at all. The comedy makes it all unrealistic and so there's nothing scary, but, in their defense, they weren't trying to be scary.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre is trying to be scary, but ends up being even less believable than A&C. The acting is so horrible, that you are completely taken out of the film, and by the time the 'scary' part happens, you might as well be watching sock puppets being torn apart, although your average sock puppet is a much better actor than anyone in this film. The horribly amateur direction doesn't help either.

I don't think this is the worst horror film I've ever seen, but it is, without a doubt, the most overrated.
post #302 of 1907

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Originally Posted by george kaplan
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

Based on all I'd heard I was expecting at the very least a scary movie. What a disappointment. This is about as scary as Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein, for related, if different reasons.

Abbott & Costello is a comedy, so the 'horror' isn't scary at all. The comedy makes it all unrealistic and so there's nothing scary, but, in their defense, they weren't trying to be scary.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre is trying to be scary, but ends up being even less believable than A&C. The acting is so horrible, that you are completely taken out of the film, and by the time the 'scary' part happens, you might as well be watching sock puppets being torn apart, although your average sock puppet is a much better actor than anyone in this film. The horribly amateur direction doesn't help either.

I don't think this is the worst horror film I've ever seen, but it is, without a doubt, the most overrated.

Ever thought what HTF would be without George Kaplan's pearls of wisdom? Scary, ain't it?
post #303 of 1907

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01/19/08-01/24/08: SANDOKAN (Episodes 1-6] (TV) (Sergio Sollima, 1976)

To begin with, I recall catching a re-run of this on Italian TV as a kid (apart from an earlier cinematic adventure featuring the titular character as incarnated by popular muscle-man Steve Reeves). Incidentally, I had recently rewatched the big-screen follow-up to the serial under review called THE BLACK PIRATE (1976) – which I enjoyed quite a bit, and was actually reminded of this one even back then. Besides, a reduction of SANDOKAN – which was released to theaters under the lengthy title LA TIGRE E` ANCORA VIVA: SANDOKAN ALLA RISCOSSA! – has just been shown on Italian TV: I taped it but, knowing the serial was readily available for rental on DVD, I opted to watch the entire thing (I had intended to check out the film as a companion piece but, being currently swarmed by titles on various formats, I thought better of leaving this for another day!).

While somewhat leisurely-paced, SANDOKAN is never boring; its classical serial structure makes for sheer old-fashioned fun, with good action sequences (director Sollima had cut his teeth on Spaghetti Westerns and Gangster flicks) and a rousing score by the De Angelis brothers (several variations on the main theme are heard throughout). It also maintains a nice balance between literariness, local color, and the thrilling/romantic requirements of the genre – and is very well cast besides: Kabir Bedi (at once dashing and commanding in his signature role), Carol Andre` (one of Euro-Cult’s loveliest starlets), Adolfo Celi (making for a formidable villain) and, especially, Philippe Leroy (as Sandokan’s witty but resourceful sidekick).

With respect to the quality of the Yamato DVD edition I watched, it’s not as bad as comments by disgruntled fans on the ‘Net had led me to believe (for the record, the serial is also available as a 3-Disc Set from a different label); I do have one qualm, though, about the decision to use the reduced English credits (but, then, the originals are available as part of the bonus features). The latter includes a biography of the character’s creator, Emilio Salgari: I was surprised to learn that he led a short and tragic life, but also that a later exotic serial I had watched – and in which Bedi was featured – called THE MYSTERIES OF THE DARK JUNGLE (1991) was based on his work.


01/24/08: CARRY ON SPYING (Gerald Thomas, 1964)

This is yet another popular (and good) entry in the “Carry On” series. Like JACK, CLEO and SCREAMING, it’s a parody of a current film or fad – in its case the box-office sensation that were the James Bond extravaganzas (in fact, it was the first of innumerable spoofs/imitations of that long-running franchise). Kenneth Williams (complete with funny accent) is more or less at his best here; accompanying him are Barbara Windsor (this proved to be her series debut), Bernard Cribbins, Charles Hawtrey, Dilys Laye (as a femme fatale), Jim Dale (playing the gang’s long-suffering contact man) and Eric Barker (as, what else, their superior).

While it cleverly features an androgynous villain (played by Judith Furse and voiced by John Bluthal), the film also lampoons earlier classic British thrillers – such as Hitchcock’s 1930s efforts and THE THIRD MAN (1949). The action takes place in a variety of locales from a Viennese café to an Algerian harem; typical espionage elements are the gang’s donning of various disguises to follow or elude enemy agents and the perilous train journey. By the way, the villains’ headquarters are amusingly accessed via a public convenience – which also pays off with an inspired surreal ending. In a direct nod to the Bond model, we get silly acronyms for the various organizations involved (such as S.T.E.N.C.H., S.M.U.T., S.N.O.G., etc).


01/25/08: FOLLOW THAT CAMEL (Gerald Thomas, 1967)

I wasn’t really expecting much out of this “Carry On” spoof on Foreign Legion films – but it turned out to be a highly agreeable entry in the long-running series. Unusually for them, the film-makers went for an American lead in the person of Phil Silvers – then again, his Sgt. Nocker here was directly inspired by the latter’s popular Sgt. Bilko characterization (which originated on TV); actually, the clash of comedy styles works surprisingly well here.

Most of the series stalwarts are on hand – Kenneth Williams as German fort commandant Burger (with matching short hair); Charles Hawtrey as Captain Le Pice(!); Jim Dale as Beau West(!), a dishonored Englishman who joins the legion (accompanied by loyal valet Peter Butterworth) after losing girlfriend Angela Douglas; Bernard Bresslaw has one of his best roles as the flamboyant villainous sheik; and Joan Sims is Madam Zigzig, hostess of the local tavern. Anita Harris also makes an impression as a sultry belly-dancer.

Apart from the traditional desert-march-fraught-with-mirages sequence, there are a couple of delightful running gags here – the naïve Douglas (who decides to stick with Dale) is taken advantage of by several men on her journey to join her lover, and eventually ends in line to being made Bresslaw’s 13th wife!; another involves the constant attempts to violently curtail the cock’s heralding of each new day by the reluctant soldiers. This good-looking film – which actually anticipates the team’s other outing with an exotic setting, the even better CARRY ON…UP THE KHYBER (1968) – is satisfyingly capped by an action-packed climax.


01/26/08: CARRY ON CAMPING (Gerald Thomas, 1969)

This is perhaps the quintessential “Carry On” film, which also means that it’s terribly dated when viewed today! That said, it’s quite funny scene by scene – even if the plot itself is alarmingly thin and disjointed.

In fact, it follows three separate narrative threads during the first half which then come together: one involving Sid James and Bernard Bresslaw and their girlfriends, sisters Joan Sims and Dilys Laye; another with bickering couple Terry Scott and Betty Marsden, who pick up annoying drifter Charles Hawtrey along the way; and the members of a finishing school (including perky Barbara Windsor) and led by the series’ all-too-typically reserved authority figures – namely Kenneth Williams and Hattie Jacques. With this film, the bawdiness which has since become synonymous with the series really took off – beginning with the very opening sequence, which finds James et al in a cinema showing a documentary about a nudist campsite!; a scene in which James and Bresslaw spy on the women’s baths through a hole in the wall was subsequently much imitated.

Many of the film’s best moments highlight Terry Scott – exaggerating his afternoon activity when asked by the wife how it was, knowing full well she isn’t lending him the slightest attention; his encounter with a bull in a field; at the end, when he takes stock of the situation in his tent and forcibly throws out Hawtrey. Popular British starlet Valerie Leon, who appeared in a number of “Carry Ons”, has a bit here as a salesgirl. By the way, CARRY ON CAMPING was trimmed by the BBFC on its original release; ironically, it ended up being the highest grossing film of the year in the U.K.!


01/28/08:A PAIN IN THE PULLMAN(Jack White, 1936)

This is another so-so Three Stooges short, with little novelty value to boot – the boys are struggling actors who fall foul of a ham stage performer (wearing a toupee) in their boarding-house, and again on the train journey to their next engagement. Aiding them in their shenanigans is a mischievous monkey; however, the BERTH MARKS (1929)-type gags have grown pretty tired by now.


01/28/08:CARRY ON LOVING(Gerald Thomas, 1970)

Again, this turned out to be more enjoyable than I was anticipating – despite the essential lack of plot and the general feeling that the regulars are merely going through the paces. The premise – or, more precisely, series of sketches – revolve around Sidney James and Hattie Jacques’ matrimonial agency; several people with various hang-ups turn up at their door – including marital consultant (but confirmed bachelor) Kenneth Williams, Terry Scott and inexperienced Richard O’Callaghan. The thing is that James and Jacques aren’t married themselves, and he’s been having a fling with Joan Sims (who’s herself doted upon by pony-tailed wrestler Bernard Bresslaw)!

Many generally amusing complications arise from this situation, though a lot of time is spent with the younger generation at the expense of the series stalwarts (Peter Butterworth, for instance, only gets an unbilled – albeit great – cameo). Some of the better moments include: Scott’s visit to the house of proposed soulmate Imogen Hassall, with relatives who seem to have strayed in from an episode of THE ADDAMS FAMILY TV series!; their date in her flat (she eventually has a startling make-over), which is constantly interrupted by the arrival of her ostensibly engaged flat-mates; the unexpected arousal of Williams’ stuffy housekeeper Patsy Rowlands after he brings home Jacques, and then Sims turns up to seduce him (because James wants to get back with Jacques) – the scene is further complicated by the arrival of the raging Bresslaw, who’s however hilariously knocked-out by the charged-up Rowlands!; the side-splitting pie-throwing finale during James and Jacques’ marriage – which is definitely one of the highlights of the entire series.


P.S.Hammer Films starlet Yutte Stensgaard’s scenes were deleted from the released version (reportedly, she was also in CARRY ON AGAIN DOCTOR [1969] – but I didn’t recognize her in that one).


01/28/08:CARRY ON LAUGHING: UNDER THE ROUND TABLE (TV)(Alan Tarrant, 1975)

There’s a definite sense of deja`-vu to this Arthurian tale with Kenneth Connor (Arthur), Jack Douglas (Sir Gay), Joan Sims (Guinevere), Peter Butterworth (Merlin) and Bernard Bresslaw (the intrepid yet bumbling knight who ends up getting it on with the Queen); Victor Maddern plays the alcoholic knight Sir Osis Of The Liver! It’s pleasant enough in itself but, as I said, not particularly inventive; of course, there’s a lusty wench on hand to tempt the chaste Bresslaw – who’s also supposed to defend the kingdom from a dragon hiding in a cave…but, needless to say, things do not go as planned for anybody!


01/31/08: THE MOTHER OF TEARS (Dario Argento, 2007)

For Euro-Cult enthusiasts and especially Argentophiles, this is the cinematic equivalent of the Second Coming – not so much because it’s an Argento movie as for the fact that it’s the long-promised conclusion to his diabolical trilogy which also comprises SUSPIRIA (1977) and INFERNO (1980).

I’d read a bit about it on the Net – where the general consensus has been quite mixed – prior to this viewing, but no official reviews (though I’d seen stills of some of its gorier highlights). Anyway, given Argento’s erratic career (to my mind, he’s been slipping since TENEBRE [1982] – with no film thereafter coming close to achieving his earlier brilliance, or even recapturing his individualistic style), I wasn’t really expecting this to be at the same level of its predecessors…but, all things considered, I don’t think that the ultimate result is a disservice to them either. Even so, I wish the film were a bit more solid overall – as the latter stages, in particular, feel decidedly rushed!

Earlier this week I watched Mario Bava’s made-for-TV swan-song THE VENUS OF ILLE (1978) which, curiously enough, started out very much like this – with the discovery of an ancient and powerful relic (another connection is the presence in both films of frequent Argento collaborator Daria Nicolodi, also mother of leading lady and the director’s daughter Asia). I haven’t watched SUSPIRIA (which has only received two viewings from me) and INFERNO (just one!) in years, but it seems to me that this third entry has greater scope – what with its scenes of violent outburst across Rome (though these don’t have quite the impact that they should, since this has pretty much becomes the norm in apocalyptic horrors). That said, the plot is intriguing if definitely contrived – given that the late mother of Argento’s archeologist character (the supernatural urn just happens to be sent to her superior/lover!) was a practitioner of white magic (killed by Mater Suspiriorum, no less!) and she intermittently appears throughout to guide her in fighting the Mother Of Tears (opening locked doors, for instance, or rendering her invisible to any pursuers).

Incidentally, the narrative seems to me to smack rather more of Roman Polanski’s THE NINTH GATE (1999) than the earlier Argento classics – not least in the muted, dreary look (there’s very little use of the director’s trademark garish, albeit carefully-constructed, visuals here)! With this in mind, there’s a similar scarcity of Argento’s equally distinctive camera gymnastics; another essential element of his work, the score (by ex-Goblin Claudio Simonetti who was responsible for much of Argento’s work, including SUSPIRIA itself) has been criticized for not being especially remarkable…but I think that it works well enough for the film (even the heavy metal song by Daemonia[!] is surprisingly competent). One major disappointment, however, is Asia’s surprisingly uncommitted performance – though it’s nice to have her form part of this seminal supernatural trilogy; apparently, father and daughter are currently working together for the fifth time on a renaissance of the giallo genre!

The climax is okay, with a great demise for the too-briefly-seen Third Mother herself – a genuine Argento moment – but, as I said earlier, it has a kind of hasty, let’s-get-on-with-it feeling (especially since the female lead, on the point of hysterics, is eventually saved by the previously-disbelieving and insufficiently-developed cop character). As often happens, too, the legion of evil minions are lazily depicted throughout as one-dimensional hooligans…and there’s even the inexplicable presence of a monkey (maybe it was just another case of Argento ripping off his colleague/collaborator George Romero?!).

To get to the gore, it comes in all varieties in this film – gut-munching, head crushing, throat-slitting, face-hacking, eye-gouging, internal body-piercing, etc. Udo Kier (from SUSPIRIA) turns up briefly in a different role; Philippe Leroy (whom I’ve recently been impressed with in the SANDOKAN [1976] TV series) is the obligatory ancient authority on mysticism. By the way, I liked the script’s play on the famous “broken mirrors/broken minds” line from SUSPIRIA – which, roughly translated, here becomes “It’s not your mind that’s troubled but the world”.

The final opinion, therefore, is that the film isn’t all that bad a follow-up (and it may very well improve with further viewings) but, in the long run, Argento has simply allowed too much time to pass to finish the trilogy – so that this particular entry lacks the dynamism and inspiration of his best work…


01/31/08:SLIPPERY SILKS(Jack White, 1936)

The last entry in the Columbia 2-Disc Set of Three Stooges shorts is a standard affair, watchable but not exactly a classic (to be honest, very few of these, if any, were!). The boys cause havoc at a shop selling rare items, then discover they’ve inherited an atelier; the funniest bit is the climax, with the exhibition of their surreal models – dressed in clothes resembling furniture (complete with drawers wherein to keep their cosmetics)!

These shorts are essentially pleasant and certainly harmless – but they’re not in any way on the same plane as their contemporaries Laurel & Hardy; one film of theirs I’d love to rewatch, however, is WE WANT OUR MUMMY (1939) – which I used to watch as a kid (my father owned a copy on Super 8!)…


01/31/08:THAT'S CARRY ON(Gerald Thomas, 1977)

This is rather a lackluster “Best Of” compilation overall; it takes a more-or-less chronological look at the series but then omits entirely the most recent effort up to that time i.e. CARRY ON ENGLAND (1976)! Linking material features stalwarts Kenneth Williams and Barbara Windsor mugging and witlessly chatting; however, no real discussion is made on how the series evolved to begin with…or, for that matter, any background given on individual performers.

Some of the series highlights are seen, to be sure – and Williams does single out his role in CARRY ON…UP THE KHYBER (1968; scenes from which open and close this film) as being his personal favorite – but, watched out of context, they just don’t have the desired effect (even if several of them came from entries I viewed only recently)!
post #304 of 1907

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Originally Posted by Mario Gauci
01/31/08:SLIPPERY SILKS(Jack White, 1936)

The last entry in the Columbia 2-Disc Set of Three Stooges shorts is a standard affair, watchable but not exactly a classic (to be honest, very few of these, if any, were!). The boys cause havoc at a shop selling rare items, then discover they’ve inherited an atelier; the funniest bit is the climax, with the exhibition of their surreal models – dressed in clothes resembling furniture (complete with drawers wherein to keep their cosmetics)!

These shorts are essentially pleasant and certainly harmless – but they’re not in any way on the same plane as their contemporaries Laurel & Hardy;

Mario, I've been reading enough of your feedback on The Three Stooges to suggest they're just not for you (much like the Godzilla films aren't your cup of tea). I don't know why you're still bothering with them, as you're just not what we like to call a "Stooges Guy". You're more of a Marx Brothers person. You should know that most fans feel these 1930s Stooges shorts with Curly are their best (I like the Shemp and even Joe Besser shorts too) but if you're already getting weary of their comedies at this point, I'd say not to venture much farther after this bunch.
post #305 of 1907

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Ever thought what HTF would be without George Kaplan's pearls of wisdom? Scary, ain't it?

I've seen thousands of horror films, and very few ever felt "scary" to me. But THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE was one of the few that were intense the first time I saw them. Another was THE EXORCIST.
post #306 of 1907

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Originally Posted by PatW
Ed Wood (1994)

This is probably one of my favourite Tim Burton/Johnny Depp collaborations tracing the early career of film producer/director's friendship with Bela Lugosi, his sexual quirks and finally those genius films that he directed. This is a totally fascinating look at this infamous director. I don't know how much of it is actually fact but it makes a great movie.

Unfortunately, not a lot was factual - especially not the Bela Lugosi dialogue and nonsense such as his living all alone without anyone (he was married to his last wife and living with her at this time). He was also addicted to drugs without doubt, but the movie could at least have mentioned that it began due to medication for a chronic pain problem with the actor's sciatic nerve in his leg, and not just "to get high".

When I first saw ED WOOD I was impressed and tickled just at the sheer fact that a movie was even made at all about such a director and all these old stars. But as time goes on I grow less fond of this overrated film each time I revisit it, and it's like one big joke. I generally think Johnny Depp is a good actor for these days, but as Ed Wood he is way too over the top and animated, unlike any real person. I think that Tim Burton's film made Ed Wood and his old terrible movies "cool", and whatever impressions many who had never heard of Wood or Lugosi before have begun to develop are due to this sham of a film.

I was waiting for the shoe to drop once Michael Elliott said he and I haven't had any arguments or debates so far in this thread! I knew the tranquility couldn't last forever (he quite loves this film!).
post #307 of 1907

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Fair enough Pat. Sorry.


I'm not cut out for the Internet me...

Anyway.
MARIO -

You mentioned Williams' accent in "Carry on Spying", that's actually his famous (infamous, as far as his removal from "Hancock's Half Hour" was concerned as Hancock considered it too broad a comedy idea) 'Snide' voice which he regularly used for silly characters.
It works in small amounts, but for me (especially when visuals are added) becomes far too trying when used for something that lasts 80 minutes.
Hence it as the first and last time Williams used it for a film...IN FACT it may have been the last time he ever used it.


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not least in the muted, dreary look (there’s very little use of the director’s trademark garish, albeit carefully-constructed, visuals here)!

And what a dire decision this is!
There's nothing remotely realistic about these 'Mothers' films and the extreme colour schemes help the disjointed, fairytale, plots work much better as the entire thing has an otherworldly sense of the absurd and the crazed about it that goes with the plots.
Twisted nightmare plots told in a twisted nightmare realm where colour streaks off the frame and the wailing cacophony of the damned blasts your ears.

He's not done an 'Argento' style supernatural film for about 20 years either!
Most people never got the chance to see "Suspiria" or "Inferno" on a big screen so this would have been the perfect chance to have that same kind of style on a cinema screen again for a new generation of fans.

For me a "Mothers" film has to have a certain style...

Oh well, I guess I'll give it a go, but a dark and drab looking, 3rd rate "Omen" score filled, finale to the "Three Mothers" is not what i for one wanted.


Non-love for the truly classic "Texas Chain Saw Massacre"?! Surely a sign of the apocalypse to come.
The twisted atmosphere, the dread that drenches every scene like a poisonous olde London smog, the feeling of impending doom, the perfectly designed sets, the blackly comic/perfectly honed Family dynamic, the superbly constructed shock scenes. Hell, the utterly sadistic, brutal, stunningly acted/edited/filmed/directed 'dinner' scene alone makes this an Exploitation cinema masterwork.
post #308 of 1907

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Non-love for the truly classic "Texas Chain Saw Massacre"?! Surely a sign of the apocalypse to come.
The twisted atmosphere, the dread that drenches every scene like a poisonous olde London smog, the feeling of impending doom, the perfectly designed sets, the blackly comic/perfectly honed Family dynamic, the superbly constructed shock scenes. Hell, the utterly sadistic, brutal, stunningly acted/edited/filmed/directed 'dinner' scene alone makes this an Exploitation cinema masterwork.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, with acting and direction so horribly bad, it certainly didn't give me any sense of dread, except dreading having to sit through the rest of this mess. And I'll just say that I agree that the 10 minutes of non-stop screaming and associated laughter constitutes "stunningly acted" and that 5 minutes of laughably bad closeups of an eye constitutes "stunningly edited/filmed/directed", but only if you mean "stunningly bad". Obviously, you and I have very different ideas of what good acting and direction is.
post #309 of 1907

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I watched the first 30 minutes or so of Ed Wood and wasn't really compelled by anything to continue it. Just one big in-joke is pretty much how it came across, sort of like Barton Fink in that respect, and the extremely affected performance by Depp (accurate or not) was incredibly grating. Landau as Karloff was fantastic, though.
post #310 of 1907

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January Recap

This was an oldschool month for me. I watched more movies than any month of '07. Knocked out some of the "big" '07 movies, caught up on recent Criterions, cut down my DVR backlog, and finished off all the "projects" clogging my Netflix list to begin viewing a wide variety of films I probably should have seen years ago.

Total Films Viewed: 37 (+1 Commentary)

Best 1st Time Viewing: Get on the Bus

Honorable Mentions: Juno, Sucker Free City, Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!, The Bridges at Toko-Ri

2008 Films (Based on NY/LA Release)

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2007 Films Viewed in '08 (Based on NY/LA Release)

Angel-A (2005, Luc Besson) (DVD Rent) - C+
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007, Paul Greengrass) (DVD Rent) - C
Day Night Day Night (2006, Julia Loktev) (DVD Rent) - C+
Eastern Promises (2007, David Cronenberg) (DVD Rent) - B
I Think I Love My Wife (2007, Chris Rock) (DVD Rent) - B-
Juno (2007, Jason Reitman) (Theater) - A-
The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (2007, Seth Gordon) (DVD Rent) - B
The Kingdom (2007, Peter Berg) (DVD Rent) - B
Molière (2007, Laurent Tirard) (DVD Rent) - B-
Rescue Dawn (2006, Werner Herzog) (DVD Rent) - B
Sicko (2007, Michael Moore) (DVD Rent) - B
Stardust (2007, Matthew Vaughn) (DVD Rent) - C
Sunshine (2007, Danny Boyle) (DVD Rent) - D
Talk to Me (2007, Kasi Lemmons) (DVD Rent) - B-
Waitress (2007, Adrienne Shelley) (DVD Rent) - B-


Pre-2007 Films Seen for the 1st Time

3:10 to Yuma (1957, Delmer Daves) (DVD Rent) - B+
4 Little Girls (1997, Spike Lee) (DVD Rent) - B+
Attack of the Crab Monsters (1957, Roger Corman) (DVR TCM) - C
Battle Hymn (1957, Douglas Sirk) (DVD Rent) - B
Black Beauty (1994, Caroline Thompson) (DVD Rent) - C+
The Black Stallion (1979, Carroll Ballard) (DVD Rent) - B
The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954, Mark Robson) - B+
Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (1965, Russ Meyer) (DVR TCM) - B+
Get on the Bus (1996, Spike Lee) (DVD Rent) - A-
La Guerre est Finie (1966, Alain Resnais) (DVD Rent) - B+
Jungle Fever (1991, Spike Lee) (DVD-R Own) - B
Kameradschaft (1931, G.W. Pabst) (DVR TCM) - B
Miss Julie (1951, Alf Sjoberg) (DVD Rent) - B
Mo' Better Blues (1990, Spike Lee) (DVD Rent) - B
The Naked Prey (1966, Cornel Wilde) (DVD Rent) - B+
Park Row (1952, Sam Fuller) (DVR TCM) - B
A Scandal in Paris (1946, Douglas Sirk) (DVD Rent) - B-
Sucker Free City (2004, Spike Lee) (DVR Showtime) - A-
Two-Lane Blacktop (1971, Monte Hellman) (DVD Library) - B


Re-Visits (All DVD's owned unless otherwise noted)

The Big Country (1958, William Wyler) - A
Princess Mononoke (1997, Hayao Miyazaki) - A-
The Tin Drum (1979, Volker Schlondorff) - A


Commentaries (Not included in total)

The Tin Drum (Volker Schlondorff)
post #311 of 1907

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LAST FOUR THEATRICAL FILMS:

CLOVERFIELD - 8 / 10

RAMBO - 7 / 10

THE EYE - 4 / 10

UNTRACEABLE - 9 / 10
post #312 of 1907

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Let's see, TCM rocks, Jackson's King Kong sucks....Deathproof is terrific, a great evocation of Jack Hill brought into the 21st century combined with the spirit of the muscle car movies (though just having watched Two-Lane Blacktop, there's certainly nothing of Hellman's style or philosophy in the film). It just isn't in any way shape or form a Grindhouse film. The title sets people's expectations, but Tarantino delivers what he always does, a talky film that is a potpourri of influences, arguably none of them "real" Grindhouse.

I saw Ed Wood in the theater on its release and have never revisited. I thought it was excellent at the time, but it has faded in my memory.

Bill posted about the Third Mother after TIFF, but it is disappointing to hear another less than enthusiastic review. Argento is gone forever I suppose. Though I do disagree that Tenebre was his last film in the "Argento style". I love Phenomena and Opera has some of his best executed shots and effects (though the story is inarguably a mess even for Dario, I still think it's a fantastic film)
Also the Monkey from Third Mother could be a reference to Phenomena rather than a "ripoff" of Romero.
post #313 of 1907

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Originally Posted by george kaplan
Obviously, you and I have very different ideas of what good acting and direction is.

You know, I bet we don't in what is normally classed as great/classic acting and directing. For a brief example;
I'm an admirer of all of these;

Kurosawa, Brando, Wayne, Jack Lemmon, Al Pacino, Henry Fonda, Sergio Leone, Clint Eastwood, Hitchcock, D.W. Griffith, Woody Allen, Michael Mann, David Cronenberg, Robert Aldrich, Scorsese... etc etc etc


But this is raw, dirty, rough horror film acting and directing. Daniel Day-Lewis and The Coen Brothers would not work here, no matter how great they may be.

For this type of film, presenting the kind of scenes/events it had to, and in the overall context of delivering what a genre film should...."TCM" and all those involved in its creation are as good at their jobs and the film is as good in its genre.... as any Kazan/Brando team-up is for the dramatic movie they need to create.

For a film based around the things that happen/containing the things it does and how it pulls them off "TCM" is quite simply one of the pinnacles of it's genre.
And i would go so far to say that it is also one of the handful of Horror films (and perhaps the only Exploitation film) to break out of it's genre and become one of the genuine cinematic high-points of the entire decade.

Its just as essential that people see "TCM" as it is essential to see other 70's diamonds like "Taxi Driver", "The Godfather/2", "Apocalypse Now", "Annie Hall" etc etc.
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For this type of film, presenting the kind of scenes/events it had to, and in the overall context of delivering what a genre film should...."TCM" and all those involved in its creation are as good at their jobs and the film is as good in its genre.... For a film based around the things that happen/containing the things it does and how it pulls them off "TCM" is quite simply one of the pinnacles of it's genre.

Exactly. And one of the most effective things about TCM for me, especially the first time I saw it, was that it didn't seem like we were watching a movie, so much as a home movie of real events. It was like some sicko family's film diary or something. It's very rough around the edges, very primitive, very stark, blunt, and candid. If some people are expecting Olivier or THE APARTMENT, they're in for a surprise.
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Non-love for the truly classic "Texas Chain Saw Massacre"?! Surely a sign of the apocalypse to come.
The twisted atmosphere, the dread that drenches every scene like a poisonous olde London smog, the feeling of impending doom, the perfectly designed sets, the blackly comic/perfectly honed Family dynamic, the superbly constructed shock scenes. Hell, the utterly sadistic, brutal, stunningly acted/edited/filmed/directed 'dinner' scene alone makes this an Exploitation cinema masterwork.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, with acting and direction so horribly bad, it certainly didn't give me any sense of dread, except dreading having to sit through the rest of this mess. And I'll just say that I agree that the 10 minutes of non-stop screaming and associated laughter constitutes "stunningly acted" and that 5 minutes of laughably bad closeups of an eye constitutes "stunningly edited/filmed/directed", but only if you mean "stunningly bad". Obviously, you and I have very different ideas of what good acting and direction is.

"Me too" posts are fairly pointless, but let me throw in my hat as someone who had the same reaction as George, so I'm glad to see someone articulate it. On the other hand, I was somewhat unimpressed by Halloween, so maybe the 70's horror just doesn't work for me like it does for most people. A lot of it just seems amateurish...and I know that's what makes it feel more real...but there's a balance that has to be struck between feeling real ("a home movie", like Joe says) and just feeling sloppy and laughable. To be fair, it might have less to do with the direction or lack of a budget, and a lot more to do with the acting and dialogue.

Obviously I think it's better than the TCM remakes but that's faint praise.
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For this type of film, presenting the kind of scenes/events it had to, and in the overall context of delivering what a genre film should....
Well I guess it may be in part my not understanding what exactly you think the defining aspects are (or at least not agreeing).

Let's just take 3 films that are all based on the Ed Gein character: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Psycho, and Silence of the Lambs.

2 of those have great acting, great direction, and are genuinely scary. I honestly don't see any benefit to the story from having essentially B-movie sensibilities brought to it. I'm guessing there's something about the B-movie (or maybe it's C-movie) aspect of this that works for you, and that you even think is even necessary for this 'genre'. But if the genre is horror film, or Ed Gein based horror film, I'd disagree. On the other hand, if the genre you're talking about is B-movie, made for the drive-in type horror film, then I guess by definition, that genre needs that kind of movie, but in that case, it's simply a genre that doesn't do anything for me.
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2/1: Hercules (1997) out of

I admire much of what the creative forces attempted to do with Hercules. The art design and music are spectacular, and the cast of heroes is varied, memorable, and sympathetic. Where it falls short is in the villain department. Hades has some visual appeal, but he and his slapstick henchmen don't do anything particularly interesting. The Hydra is a natural fit to the story, but the primitive CGI makes it look completely out of sync with its surroundings. Also, the tonal shifts from comedy to drama and back again are sometimes jarring. This is one of Disney's bottom 10 animated films on my list, but as its own entity it is an entertaining movie that is a little too ambitious for its own good.
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Astronaut Farmer (2006)

This film tries so hard to be liked but it's hard to get over the ludicrous aspects of this story.

Billy Bob Thornton plays a former ex-astronaut who never made it into space. He's now a farmer but still has a dream of going into space. He builds a rocket but when he orders rocket fuel he has the FBI, CIA and numerous other initials after him.

This is a well-meaning movie and a nice little family film. I can't fault the acting but the plot is, well crazy. I know it's not to be taken seriously, but the movie just didn't work for me.
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I have to agree mostly with what Brian and George said about TCM. It really did nothing for me...The thing is, I was hoping for something exactly as Dave described - a dingy, home movie that felt a bit too real. But that's not what I got. I didn't feel the dread and was never scared. And the family dinner scene came across as bad comedy to me. I felt they actually undercut any of Leatherface's potential threatening doom by making him such a putz...

That final scene with him, the chainsaw and the setting sun was pretty cool though.

Brook, though I agree with you about Argento's Opera, I just saw Phenomena and thought it to be one of his worst...Maybe it was the maggots...
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January recap:

Best of january

The Lives of Others
10 of 10
Since You Went Away - 10 of 10
My Man Godfrey - 10 of 10
Miracle of Morgan's Creek - 10 of 10
Lady from Shanghai, The - 10 of 10

The rest:

Ace in the Hole - 9 of 10
The Awful Truth - 9 of 10
Diving Bell and the Butterfly, The - 8 of 10
Flashdance - 8 of 10
Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle - 8 of 10
Iron Horse - 8 of 10
Last Emperor, The - 8 of 10
Sorry Wrong Number - 8 of 10
There Will Be Blood - 8 of 10
Orgazmo - 7 of 10
Tingler, The - 7 of 10
Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! - 6 of 10
How the West Was Won - 6 of 10
The Rose - 6 of 10
Cover Girl - 5 of 10
Othello - 4 of 10
Spiderman3 - 2 of 10


















































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01/26/08: MARCH OR DIE (Dick Richards, 1977)

My first viewing of this one came via a local TV screening back in the early 1980s when we still only had a black-and-white TV set and the film has virtually vanished without a trace from TV screens since then. I had originally intended to revisit it over the Christmas period – along with other exotic adventure films I’ve seen at the time like CHU-CHIN-CHOW (1934), ABDUL THE DAMNED (1935) and FORT ALGIERS (1953) – but I had to postpone those plans; now that I’ve watched the “Carry On” spoof of Foreign Legion films, FOLLOW THAT CAMEL (1967), it seemed an appropriate time to give it another look. Obviously, I don’t usually go for pan-and-scan transfers of widescreen films but, as I said, this film has become such a rarity that I leapt at the chance to watch this one again on the R2 DVD I found at a local rental store.

Anyway, during the 1970s it became fashionable to revive old Hollywood genres and the master at this game was Peter Bogdanovich but, equally successful, was Dick Richards with his Philip Marlowe adaptation FAREWELL, MY LOVELY (1975); unfortunately, both directors would soon have a dud on their hands – Bogdanovich with the musical pastiche AT LONG LAST LOVE (1975) and Richards with MARCH OR DIE! Rewatching it now, it’s hardly as disastrous as its reputation would have you believe: in fact, I thought that, shot by shot, it was quite well directed. What it clearly needed was a more exciting plot, a less predictable narrative and, most importantly perhaps, a more suitable leading man. While personally I got a kick out of seeing childhood favorite Terence Hill (i.e. Italian Spaghetti Western/action-comedy film star Mario Girotti) share the screen with such acting heavyweights as Gene Hackman, Catherine Deneuve, Max Von Sydow and Ian Holm, his light touch was clearly inadequate for the role of the thief-turned-soldier who falls foul of his misanthropic Captain (Hackman) but is soon consoled by a French belle (Deneuve).

Deneuve made one of her infrequent appearances in an English-speaking film and, while her character is not exactly given much to do, she is more “troubled” than she at first appears: she is fascinated by the old lady in the whorehouse (shades of BELLE DE JOUR [1967] perhaps?) and sacrifies herself to Hackman in order to save Hill from dooming himself for her love (as others had done before him); Von Sydow also antagonizes Hackman in his quest to unearth the priceless archeological relics found in the desert – which, to the latter, belong to the Arabs (who are more than welcome to them) and, being a renegade American, sees no point in increasing the glory of France through the loss of the lives of his men (most of which are also foreigners); Ian Holm plays the cultured but ruthless Arab leader and, it was also nice to see Hackman share the screen once more with Marcel Bozzuffi (whom he had famously dispatched in THE FRENCH CONNECTION [1971]) and Jack O’ Halloran (who would go on to play Non, one of the villainous Kryptonian trio in the first two SUPERMAN films); the latter was also in Richards’ FAREWELL, MY LOVELY and I recently had the pleasure to talk to him on this very Forum about the film under review itself!

As usual, the film-makers’ heart was set in the right place given their employment of, not just the star-studded international cast, but also cinematographer John Alcott and composer Maurice Jarre but, as I said earlier, their good intentions were let down by a fairly routine plot which, despite the occasional, valiant interjections of existentialism a` la the previous year’s THE DESERT OF THE TARTARS (which also featured Max Von Sydow and an unusually strong role for Italian heart-throb Giuliano Gemma!), fails to coalesce into a memorable or entire successful whole. Gene Hackman once said about MARCH OR DIE that the audience marched in and the film died: maybe they just couldn’t take it seriously after seeing the whole Foreign Legion genre being sent up (yet again) on the screen just a few months earlier in British comic Marty Feldman’s directorial debut, THE LAST REMAKE OF BEAU GESTE (1977)…


01/29/08:FALSE ALARMS(Del Lord, 1936)

This one finds The Three Stooges as firemen – though, of course, they prefer to sleep their way through work…or else attempt to keep appointments with their girls (one of whom is obese and highly irritating)! Many a film or cartoon has dealt with this theme, poking fun at a serious subject via the mayhem caused by either incompetent firemen or the engine’s various equipment – such as water-hoses and ladders. As always, The Stooges manage to fall foul of their boss – especially when, at the climax, they borrow and wreck his brand-new automobile! In essence, this vehicle – like much of The Three Stooges’ work (at least, from what I’ve seen so far) – is harmless but, at the same time, unsympathetic…and, besides, has little rewatchability value for me.


01/30/08:WHOOPS, I'M AN INDIAN(Del Lord, 1936)

This is another Stooges short with a Western setting, which has some nice backwoods scenery but is otherwise routine. Here, the boys are swindlers run out of town by the customers of a saloon; they subsequently have to fend for themselves, where we get a good gag which has Curly trying to procure food by going underwater and shooting at the fish! Eventually, they reach a log-cabin – the property of one of their ‘victims’ and whose wife has been abducted by Indians; coincidentally, The Stooges disguise themselves as Native Americans which, of course, incurs the trapper’s wrath (and also gives the film its title!). At the finale, our heroes are back in town – believing their Indian disguise will fool the locals – but, on the run once again soon after, they unwittingly lock themselves up in jail!


01/27/08:CARRY ON LAUGHING: ONE IN THE EYE FOR HAROLD (TV)(Alan Tarrant, 1975)

To begin with, I expected this to be a modern political lampoon rather than yet another medieval (and typically bawdy) romp! With this in mind, the beginning is somewhat shaky – but, eventually, it settles down to being a quite funny episode in the TV series.

Jack Douglas is assigned to procure a secret weapon devised by monk Kenneth Connor to aid in the Saxon king’s war against the Normans. The journey back is fraught with peril – even if the appointed assassin of the two travelers botches his job at every turn; a second spy, femme fatale Joan Sims, fares no better. David Lodge is featured as the Norman king.

The best gags here involve an old hag who seduces Douglas and Connor in the forest (of course, they reject her advances – but, unbeknownst to them, she’s actually acting on behalf of a virginal damsel!) and the climactic sequence, which has Connor’s invention (a glass helmet, pretty much like an astronaut’s!) ultimately prove fatal to the king – so Douglas and Connor contrive to arrange an accident which would fulfill a prophecy attached to their sovereign’s demise (and which also gives the episode its title)!


01/29/08:CARRY ON LAUGHING: THE SOBBING CAVALIER (TV)(Alan Tarrant, 1975)

This is surely one of the better episodes in the “Carry On” TV series: it features a fresh Puritan setting where we find Jack Douglas and Joan Sims as complacent nobles receiving a sudden visit from Oliver Cromwell (a remarkably straight turn from Peter Butterworth); David Lodge is Cromwell’s lieutenant, and Barbara Windsor a lusty serving-girl in Douglas’ household. The title, then, refers to Royalist-in-hiding Sid James – who could be given away by his long hair, but which actually comes in handy when he has to don female robes to escape detection!


01/30/08:CARRY ON LAUGHING: LAMP-POSTS OF THE EMPIRE (TV)(Alan Tarrant, 1975)

This above-average episode, which utilizes a flashback structure, has a nice Victorian feeling – though the majority of the action reverts to a studio-bound African setting. It’s a parody of the celebrated Stanley and Livingstone adventure story – with Kenneth Connor and Bernard Bresslaw, respectively, in those roles (even if the latter is actually called Pavingstone; there’s a running-gag tied up to the equally famous line “Dr. Livingstone, I presume?”). Peter Butterworth is the ancient leader of the geographical society (of whom Barbara Windsor is the only female member), Jack Douglas is a guide nicknamed “Elephant Dick” (his trademark twitching eventually causes him to literally lose the expedition’s bearing!) and Oscar James appears as the native witch doctor (whose sorcery results in various gorilla mutations, which has the unfortunate effect of arousing the real jungle apes!).


02/01/08:ACROSS THE UNIVERSE (Julie Taymor, 2007)

One of my (many) pet peeves with modern movies is their penchant for including redundant cover versions of classic rock songs by today’s would-be superstars so as to make them more palatable to mainstream i.e. teenage audiences too young to remember the originals or those who performed them. Needless to say, I was very sarcastic about the potentially disastrous – not to mention blasphemous – idea of making a musical film with the immortal songs of The Beatles (mostly) sung by a group of anonymous young actors. Even if, in hindsight, the film is not without its flaws, I must applaud veteran screenwriters Dick Clement and Ian Le Frenais and director Julie Taymor – not just for their bravery in making this almost impossible task work but because, more often than not, the results are brilliant and occasionally dazzling.

To begin with, 33 songs from The Beatles’ repertoire are redressed to suit the actors who perform them and the characters they portray are also named after famous Beatles creations: the main protagonists are British dockyard-worker Jude (Jim Sturgess) who goes to America to look for his janitor father whom he has never met; along the way, he makes friends with spoiled rich kid Max (Joe Anderson) and soon falls for his sister Lucy (Evan Rachel Wood); meanwhile, their sluttish landlady Sadie (Dana Fuchs) is silently lusted after by Asian misfit Prudence (T.V. Carpio) but the former has set her own sights on colored guitarist Jo-Jo (Martin Luther McCoy) whom she engages in her own rock band. The narrative takes on some of the most important events in late-1960s American history – the Civil Rights protests, the Vietnam War, etc. – as Max is enrolled in the Army, Lucy becomes a political radical, Sadie’s band are stopped by the police while playing a rooftop concert (recalling The Beatles’ own famous farewell performance!), they all ramble through America in a bus and Prudence joins a traveling circus show…

Some of the song numbers are ambitious and inventively realized: it’s hard not to love seeing Joe Cocker playing a vagrant in a train station as he twitches himself into the first bars of “Come Together” or having Bono as the eccentric Dr. Robert bursting into “I Am The Walrus” during a psychedelia-tinged party sequence but it’s the partly-animated “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)” army-recruiting sequence which impresses the most; still, the more pastoral passages like “Because” (sung by the stoned group of friends as they lie carefree on the village green) and Evan Rachel Wood’s solo “If I Fell” are quietly remarkable in their own right. However, not every song revisit is a success: circus barker Eddie Izzard’s “Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite” is surprisingly dreadful, Sturgess’ low-key rendition of “Revolution” is ineffective and, unfortunately, “Happiness Is A Warm Gun” (one of my favorite Beatles album tracks) is marred by some uncalled for choreographic gymnastics! Still as a cinematic collage based on The Beatles’ Songbook as performed by other people, it’s far more successful than it has a right to be and clearly light years ahead of the notoriously abysmal SGT. PEPPER’S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND (1978) and, consequently, essential viewing for long-time Beatles fans of all persuasions.
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The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

Based on all I'd heard I was expecting at the very least a scary movie. What a disappointment. This is about as scary as Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein, for related, if different reasons.

Abbott & Costello is a comedy, so the 'horror' isn't scary at all. The comedy makes it all unrealistic and so there's nothing scary, but, in their defense, they weren't trying to be scary.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre is trying to be scary, but ends up being even less believable than A&C. The acting is so horrible, that you are completely taken out of the film, and by the time the 'scary' part happens, you might as well be watching sock puppets being torn apart, although your average sock puppet is a much better actor than anyone in this film. The horribly amateur direction doesn't help either.

I don't think this is the worst horror film I've ever seen, but it is, without a doubt, the most overrated.

I'm going to disagree with you but not regarding TCM really. I've always said that A&C MEET FRANKENSTEIN worked just as good as a horror film because I think out of all the Universal horror films, the "horror" in this movie works the best. I think this is due to several reasons but the biggest being that people have a connection to A&C unlike other characters in Universal's horror films. For that reason, I think the viewer has more suspense going for them when the monsters attack. I'm not sure if you've ever shown this one to your son but I'd be interested in hearing what he reaction to it was. A lot of younger kids (then and now) find the film too scary. I'd say a kid would be more connection to FRANKENSTEIN or BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN. I've also always felt that the violence in A&C MEET FRANKENSTEIN was the most graphic of any of the Universal movies. The scene where the doctor gets thrown out the window is a pretty graphic scene and certainly more graphic than previous Universal titles.

As far as TCM goes, I'm not sure if the word overrated should even be used because the film did get a lot of mixed reviews when originally released. This is the one of two films that my parents would never let me watch because it freaked them out so bad. When I finally got around to seeing the film I was left disappointed because it didn't scare me. I think the lead actress is annoying as hell but the direction was great for me. I think this is the only well directed film Hooper has done though.

This period had a lot of Gein inspired movies and I'd say the best was DERANGED.
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Re: Argento

I think he has another great movie in him but it's not going to look like his past films. The 70s were the 70s and the 80s were the 80s and to me there's no way to recapture that period. I think Argento did very well with SLEEPLESS and the two Masters of Horror films. I'm not sure how I feel about the new Mothers movies since I find SUSPIRIA overrated and couldn't really get into INFERNO. I think TENEBRE is his greatest film and it ranks as one of the greatest mysteries of all time.

Re: ED WOOD

Brilliant film that gets better with each viewing. I don't care what Lugosi did or didn't really say. I'd be pissed too if I had to star in GLEN OR GLENDA? To me the film has always been and will always be a beautiful and touching love story.
post #324 of 1907

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I'm not sure if you've ever shown this one to your son but I'd be interested in hearing what he reaction to it was. A lot of younger kids (then and now) find the film too scary.

I can vouch for this first-hand. And Michael, you may wish to quote me here along with your next post, as it seems George has still decided to keep me in the esteemed "ignore" category...

Anyway - I saw ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN in a theater in NY several years ago, and during the early chamber of horrors sequence where Lugosi's Dracula slithers about, and the eerie music and moving candle, and the resurrection of the Frankenstein Monster bursting out of his crate.... these scenes scared the hell out of a little kid who was watching the movie with his father. During these 15 minutes or so, the boy kept begging dad to leave the theater, but pop kept trying to assure his son that this was "funny". Eventually this kid got so terrified that a disgruntled father had to huffingly take him by the hand out of the theater. I smiled to myself happily thinking "Bela's still got it".

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As far as TCM goes, I'm not sure if the word overrated should even be used because the film did get a lot of mixed reviews when originally released.

Doesn't really matter today though, as it's now generally considered one of the greats. So "overrated" could apply here if you think it gets too much praise in general today. Of course I'd never agree with that assessment myself.

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I'm not sure how I feel about the new Mothers movies since I find SUSPIRIA overrated

You mean this one only got rave reviews in its day?
post #325 of 1907

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We've talked about the film countless times but I've always stated it's the only Universal film that gives me any suspense. I've always found the ending very intense and when I saw it a couple times in a theater a couple years ago it seemed like a lot of people were also quite tense.

Oh yeah, the girlfriend and I didn't get to RAMBO or CLOVERFIELD last night. By the time she got back from the hospital we decided to just go to eat and then come back and watch a movie. Since I'm off next week I'm going to try and go see both though.
post #327 of 1907

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Atlantic City (1980)

I enjoyed Burt Lancaster's performance as an old gangster who's bigger in his mind than he ever was in real life, and now getting a chance for another shot - all along the setting against the seaside backdrop of Atlantic City, New Jersey. Susan Sarandon worked very well alongside Lancaster.
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Facing the Giants

I knew going in that this movie was a sentimental Christian sports movie and it suceeds on those terms. Is it inprobable? Yes! Is it predicable? Hell, yes! As preachy as it is, I still found it enjoyable to a certain extent. I wouldn't recommend this to everyone though because I think alot of people would be turned off with its lessons and how it gets there.
post #329 of 1907

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Beyond the Valley of the Dolls 5 of 10

Terrible film with fabulously gay cinematography and production design. Copious nudity included free of charge. Plot wise it's even more nonsensical than Orgasmo, but that's hardly the point. Very funny at times but let down by the script more often than not.
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Doesn't really matter today though, as it's now generally considered one of the greats. So "overrated" could apply here if you think it gets too much praise in general today. Of course I'd never agree with that assessment myself.

I still wouldn't put too much credit into that. I still can't find many four-star reviews of the film and I don't see it making any 'greatest films' list. Horror fans eat it up but it's never really breached out into anything else.

Re: ATLANTIC CITY

film to me. Great story, great direction and one of Lancaster's greatest performances. If it weren't for DeNiro that year then Lancaster would have walked away with an Oscar.
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