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post #151 of 183
1/2/08 at 6:40am

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

I think I can shed a little more light on this problem. I noticed the same problem on disc 4 of Hart to Hart: Season 2. It is definitely the plastic cases and NOT the disc. The blotching/cloudiness/whatever you want to call it is not only around the disc area but also on the plastic center and there are 4 tiny circle marks that are from the plastic case itself. The center of the case where the dvd rests has 4 tiny circles engraved in it. The condensation or whatever it is caused the marks to imprint into the center circle of the dvd (where you would put your fingers to hold the disc). That settles the actual blotchiness cause.

However, I did play it last night and the performance is pristine. No problems with the disc-play or screen appearance. Hope this helps clear up some questions for people.
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post #152 of 183
1/2/08 at 10:26pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

The important thing alot of people who have this problem keep saying is thier discs play fine for now. Let me repeat the important part of that sentence, the discs play fine. People, the future holds no guarantees. If your dvds last a lifetime great. What if you don't ? This whole thing has scared and angered some into a pissed off fit. I own several tv shows on dvd in these scanavo cases and I'm not seeing the problem. Now, if you want to talk about cloudy spots and marks on dvds, then, yes I have those in my collection as well. It wipes off and I've seen it more on the top of my dvds rather than the side the laser reads. Many of you have had this in your collections for years and have not even blinked, I'm sure. The point is, sometimes when you go looking for problems and troubles, you will find them. Regardless of wether they are serious or not. Take a step back and consider this.
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post #153 of 183
1/2/08 at 10:58pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by troy evans
The important thing alot of people who have this problem keep saying is thier discs play fine for now. Let me repeat the important part of that sentence, the discs play fine.

The important thing is if you care about your DVDs and you notice the residue building up on your discs to get them out of those cases.

it's great that you haven't the problem that some of us have encountered, but don't belittle us as a pack of Chicken Littles. There is an issue and people need to notice if their DVDs have been affected by this residue. I normally read these stuff and scoff it away. But then I find this residue on several of my sets - including a few that I'd only taken the wrapping off the cases and never played the discs.

from the tone of your statement, you really should get hired by Scanavo as their spokesperson if they ever admit there's a residue issue.
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post #154 of 183
1/2/08 at 11:57pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
The important thing is if you care about your DVDs and you notice the residue building up on your discs to get them out of those cases.

it's great that you haven't the problem that some of us have encountered, but don't belittle us as a pack of Chicken Littles. There is an issue and people need to notice if their DVDs have been affected by this residue. I normally read these stuff and scoff it away. But then I find this residue on several of my sets - including a few that I'd only taken the wrapping off the cases and never played the discs.

from the tone of your statement, you really should get hired by Scanavo as their spokesperson if they ever admit there's a residue issue.
Well, on the first point you made, that's if it is in fact the cases that are the cause. Many people seem to think it is, but, I see no facts to back that up, yet. Next, you should consider replacing all your cases with ones you feel are suitable for your dvd storage needs if it bothers you to this degree. You have the right to. All I'm saying is after that's done and time goes by and the residue shows up again what will you blame then? I have dvds in non scanavo cases that have had signs of residue on them which I've wiped away. Sd dvds are not the final home entertainment medium anyway. HD DVD and Bluray are bound to replace it in a few years and Blurays boast about a protective coating on discs. Not to mention the future looks to be going to direct downloads at some point. People who have the problem have stated the discs play fine and that should not be lost in all this. I'll wait until all the facts come in before I do anything as rash as replace all my dvd cases simply because some are sure the cases are defective.
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post #155 of 183
1/9/08 at 11:02am

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by troy evans
I have dvds in non scanavo cases that have had signs of residue on them which I've wiped away.

Describe the non-Scanavo cases that you found residue DVDs inside? what titles are we talking?
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post #156 of 183
1/9/08 at 1:06pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey3rd
Describe the non-Scanavo cases that you found residue DVDs inside? what titles are we talking?
Lethal Weapon 1, Congo, Deep Rising just off the top of my head. Discs play fine and all residue wiped away pretty easy.
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post #157 of 183
1/9/08 at 1:16pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by troy evans
Lethal Weapon 1, Congo, Deep Rising just off the top of my head. Discs play fine and all residue wiped away pretty easy.

You're talking about three DVDs that you bought seven to nine years ago?

I asked about the cases. Did they have they oily feel to them?
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post #158 of 183
1/9/08 at 1:50pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey3rd
You're talking about three DVDs that you bought seven to nine years ago?

I asked about the cases. Did they have they oily feel to them?
First, go back and read your original question. After doing so you will see I did in fact answer it. You did not ask in the original question if my cases had an "oily feel to them". Also, why do you assume I bought them 7 to 9 years ago since they are all still currently on the market. Look, I know your mad as hell about this. I can see this incident has put many into a frenzy. I'm asking for everyone to calm down and take a step back. We can argue all day long about the situation or those affected can take action. That's if you are 100% sure you no for a fact that it's a manufacturing defect. If you believe it is then send it back and get a replacement. It's that simple. Calling or writing the companies who distribute the dvd sets would be another excellent idea.
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post #159 of 183
1/9/08 at 2:33pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by troy evans
First, go back and read your original question. After doing so you will see I did in fact answer it. You did not ask in the original question if my cases had an "oily feel to them". Also, why do you assume I bought them 7 to 9 years ago since they are all still currently on the market. Look, I know your mad as hell about this. I can see this incident has put many into a frenzy. I'm asking for everyone to calm down and take a step back. We can argue all day long about the situation or those affected can take action. That's if you are 100% sure you no for a fact that it's a manufacturing defect. If you believe it is then send it back and get a replacement. It's that simple. Calling or writing the companies who distribute the dvd sets would be another excellent idea.

because the three titles you mentioned were pressed back in 1999/2000 - if they do DVDs like VHS, it's pretty much one big pressing. I've yet to encounter this residue on any of my older titles that were in black single cases - nor in the black double sided slim cases. Was there anything about these cases that made them feel differently from cases you bought around the same time?

The question is if this can be considered a manufacturing defect or an unforeseen chemical reaction? Defect is the coffee cloud Anchor Bay DVDs.

Sony has offered to swap out the Hazel DVDs. But they seem to offer some people their FedEx number and other people have to pay their own postage.

Outside of this thread, this situation of these cases and the residue appears to not be discussed. I mentioned it to a pal the other day, he pulled out his Futurama DVDs and he had the residue building up on the playing sides.

While it's nice that you don't want people to panic in the streets, people must be warned to check their DVDs and remove them from the oily clear slim cases. Nobody bought a DVD thinking they were getting an EZD (or whatever they called the self-destruct discs)
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post #160 of 183
1/9/08 at 3:14pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

My three seasons of HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL are in dual-slim cases, but in all three, the name is "Nexpak" ... they're a little filmy and a few of the discs have small blotches. The blotches don't readily 'wipe away' as some claim. I've not tried scrubbing.

Who is Nexpak? And is there a 'slim-dual' substitute case? I haven't seen them.
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post #161 of 183
1/9/08 at 3:39pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Boston Legal S1, S2 & S3 also use Scanavo cases. Filmy case & blotchy discs.
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post #162 of 183
1/9/08 at 7:12pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey3rd
because the three titles you mentioned were pressed back in 1999/2000 - if they do DVDs like VHS, it's pretty much one big pressing. I've yet to encounter this residue on any of my older titles that were in black single cases - nor in the black double sided slim cases. Was there anything about these cases that made them feel differently from cases you bought around the same time?

The question is if this can be considered a manufacturing defect or an unforeseen chemical reaction? Defect is the coffee cloud Anchor Bay DVDs.

Sony has offered to swap out the Hazel DVDs. But they seem to offer some people their FedEx number and other people have to pay their own postage.

Outside of this thread, this situation of these cases and the residue appears to not be discussed. I mentioned it to a pal the other day, he pulled out his Futurama DVDs and he had the residue building up on the playing sides.

While it's nice that you don't want people to panic in the streets, people must be warned to check their DVDs and remove them from the oily clear slim cases. Nobody bought a DVD thinking they were getting an EZD (or whatever they called the self-destruct discs)
Okay, my scanavo cased dvds don't seem to have an oily feel to them. I've never encountered this kind of feel in any dvd I've owned. We're talking over 2500 dvds in my collection. Why not get everyone who is reporting this as a problem to share the serial # from the dvd sets they own. If that doesn't produce any results, then, try to find the commonality or simularities in the way they store or handle the dvds. If none of this can be achieved, and so far it has not, then it's pointless to continue these claims or discussions. Also, if there is an oily substance responsible here you would have to completely get rid of it. Meaning, the inserts, box that the cases sit in and covers on cases. Oil doesn't just go away unless you get rid of it all. Even with trace amounts you could be in the same boat a few years down the road. That's why unless we have some kind of absolute proof of what's going on we need to take a breath and relax a bit. What if the problem isn't even the cases and it turns out to be the discs? Some are reporting problems with dvds in non-scanavo cases like Nexpak. Which was reported by the TheGreatOz above. Seeing as how it's not scanavo exclusive, now what? Are you starting to see my point?
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post #163 of 183
1/9/08 at 7:43pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Quote:
Originally Posted by troy evans
Some are reporting problems with dvds in non-scanavo cases like Nexpak. Which was reported by the TheGreatOz above. Seeing as how it's not scanavo exclusive, now what? Are you starting to see my point?


I'm wondering if it may be a reaction to the clear plastic across the board (not brand specific) Here's another question, is anyone having these problems with the BLACK double slim cases? If so is it the smooth black or the rough black?
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post #164 of 183
1/9/08 at 8:15pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by troy evans
Some are reporting problems with dvds in non-scanavo cases like Nexpak. Which was reported by the TheGreatOz above. Seeing as how it's not scanavo exclusive, now what? Are you starting to see my point?

Your point? I've just been getting this sense from you that we should just sit back and let out discs remain in the cases because there's no need to panic. If it happens, it's just our darn luck cause none of your DVDs in double slim cases. We're just chicken littles.

We have been pointing out that it doesn't seem to be a problem exclusive to the Scanavo cases. The Hazel set in the clear double slim cases weren't marked Scanavo. That's been discussed.

I've yet to encounter this issue with any of the black slim cases in my collection. Futurama S1 in the clear case had the residue. But there's no residue on The King of the Hill S1 that I bought at the same time. They're in black cases.
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post #165 of 183
1/9/08 at 9:05pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatOz
My three seasons of HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL are in dual-slim cases, but in all three, the name is "Nexpak" ... they're a little filmy and a few of the discs have small blotches. The blotches don't readily 'wipe away' as some claim. I've not tried scrubbing.

Who is Nexpak? And is there a 'slim-dual' substitute case? I haven't seen them.

Get 97% rubbing alcohol. It works.
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post #166 of 183
1/9/08 at 9:19pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Joe, I know you and several people here do in fact have a problem with your dvds. Beyond a shadow of a doubt that much is perfectly clear. What I can't seem to get a straight answer on is the cause of the problem. Is it the cases or the handling or the discs themselves. No one, I repeat, no one has a clear answer as to the cause of this problem. It's all speculation at this point. Has anyone contacted the distributors or scanavo to complain? Why do I have cloudiness on my old Warner cardboard/plastic snap cases dvds? Why do I have it on a Paramount snap case dvd? Why is it some people claim to have it on the exact same dvd sets and some don't? I don't notice cloudiness on any of my gold dvds. Only seems to show up on the silver ones, when it does show up, and I easily wiped it away. I can't speak to you or others who have had a problem with the oily feel of the cases. However, one would think that six pages deep and weeks into this someone would have made an official complaint to the companies. Collectively, with all the complaints out there the companies would have to take action. Yet, here we are still complaining about a problem and doing little to solve it. Look at the Pirates of the Carribean thread about the framing issue. They all complained to Disney and either have or have on the way replacement dvds. Take action if you truely are bothered by this issue is all I'm saying. When someone comes to this thread that may have this problem give them a solution as a course of action. Don't let them read page after page of " Oh My dvds are rotting" BS that's going to do nothing but scare the hell out of them. Especially since, as I said before, no one knows what's really going on yet.
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post #167 of 183
1/10/08 at 7:18am

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

I've written Scanavo a few times since this problem was brought to my attention. I haven't heard anything back. While Sony will swap the Hazel DVDs, they won't say what the possible problem is. And what are the odds that my sealed Hazel DVDs they send me will suffer the same problem? It's not like they made a new batch of them last week.

What are the odds that anyone involved in this will go on the record? the CES is going on out in Vegas and I've yet to hear any reps discuss the residue situation. They're too busy with Blu-Ray beating HD-DVD.
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post #168 of 183
1/10/08 at 11:17am

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
I've written Scanavo a few times since this problem was brought to my attention. I haven't heard anything back. While Sony will swap the Hazel DVDs, they won't say what the possible problem is. And what are the odds that my sealed Hazel DVDs they send me will suffer the same problem? It's not like they made a new batch of them last week.

What are the odds that anyone involved in this will go on the record? the CES is going on out in Vegas and I've yet to hear any reps discuss the residue situation. They're too busy with Blu-Ray beating HD-DVD.
Man, I feel ya. Believe it or not, I'm trying to have everyones best interest at heart here. Even yours. My concern is if it turns out that the cases are not the issue, even though people think it's the likely reason the're having the issue, replacing cases will be an unnessissary expense. I know with the hobby we all are in here you would get the impression money is no issue and to some it may not be. I however do not have it to waste. Over the past few posts you and I have had, you've taken the impression that I think you're a "Chicken Little". I don't think that, man. I think you are really pissed off about the situation. I think you feel that you've spent hard earned money in investing in something you thought would last a lifetime. So far, as bad as it all is, the discs still play fine. There's a ton of stuff in life to stress over. I don't want my dvd collection to be one of them. What you take enjoyment in should never stress you out, anyway. Man, I've had scratched to hell discs, broken discs, discs that seem flawless physically and still have glitches in playback. Some times I buy a tvondvd set and don't watch it right away and then when I finally do, guess what? Scratched, broke, glitch. Those kind of things piss me off way more than residue that wipes away and dvds still play fine issues. However, I remind myself that a persons concerns, wether you agree or not, are still a concern to them.
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post #169 of 183
1/16/08 at 7:43pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

I just noticed a cloudiness circling around half of the disc on on one of the dvd's that I recently purchased in the Bette Davis set Vol 1 that uses one of the normal size single keep cases. However, this is not the problem that I had with Hogan's Heroes season 2. I posted photos of a couple of those discs earlier. I believe they were cloudy when I got the box set of HH several years ago but nothing what they looked like now. I would like to clarify in my case though that it was not and I repeat NOT a cloudiness issue that I reported a few weeks ago. It was several stages later in the deteriation of the discs where it looked like glue was dripped all over the surface of the discs. These discs may have had the cloudy effect several years ago but did not look anything like this.
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post #170 of 183
1/16/08 at 9:11pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Scanavo gave me a call this evening and asked me to send them the oily cases so they can test them out. If anyone else is having issues, they should contact the company through their website.
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post #171 of 183
1/17/08 at 5:10pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
Scanavo gave me a call this evening and asked me to send them the oily cases so they can test them out. If anyone else is having issues, they should contact the company through their website.

Keep us apprised of what if anything Scanavo comes back with on these cases, and whether there is a bonafide problem with potential disc rot. I noticed blotches on some ``Hogan's Heroes'' discs and possibly on some ``Brady Bunch'' discs, but haven't gone so far to try to clean them or play them in my PS3.
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post #172 of 183
4/16/08 at 3:11pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Sorry to dig this thread up. I was doing research on "Kolchak: The Night Stalker" as I'm considering picking it up in an Amazon order later today, and I wanted to see if there were disk problems.

After reading this, I just hunted through my disk collection for anything in a Scanavo case. I found two. Both seasons of "Dead Like Me". I checked all the disks, and in all honesty, the disks are pretty much the best condition of any disks I've got.

One thing that occurred to me reading this: How many people having issues with these disks have left their sets sealed in the original plastic? Just wonder if being in a sealed environment has any bearing on any of this.

Anyway, thanks for the info on this issue. I know I'm probably lucky (sets here people have said have the cases that I have, mine are entirely different cases) and will be careful.

And if anyone has any warnings about the "Kolchak" set, please post it
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post #173 of 183
4/16/08 at 7:34pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

The only problem with Kolchak would be that its on DVD 18s. The double sided, dual layer discs that Universal was so in love with. Having said that...i watched a disc last week, and it was fine. I never had trouble with the show when i got it. I am one who hates those discs, but this set was fine.
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post #174 of 183
4/16/08 at 8:01pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

I have had no problems with the Kolchak discs and I haven't seen any 'film' on the cases either.
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post #175 of 183
4/16/08 at 10:52pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Thanks a lot. Had to curtail my Kolchak'ing activities. Order on Amazon came to too much.

DVD-18's, I've had a few problems in the past sadly, so that might be a big black mark against it
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post #176 of 183
4/17/08 at 10:16am

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Scanavo hasn't written me back about what they discovered on the cases i returned to them a few months back.
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post #177 of 183
5/29/08 at 8:45pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Sorry to dig this thread up, but I have three bits of information.

First, Kolchak: The Night Stalker is in slightly "filmy" slim cases with no brand name and a slight haze to the discs on the top sides (not the bottoms).

Second, Perry Mason S1 Vol 1 and Vol 2 are in slim/dual cases that also have a thin film on the inside. However, there's nothing on the discs (yet).

Third, the good news, Micro Center carries a 10-pack of dual-DVD slim/clear cases by TekNmotion (tm) which have no oil or film at all (so far). The package number is TM-DVD10S2CC. They run $7.99 for the 10-pack. I've purchased five packages at different times and each has been crystal clear and squeaky clean.

I thought I was through with "rot" problems when laserdiscs went the way of the Edsel and the 45 rpm record. I guess not!
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post #178 of 183
5/29/08 at 10:46pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

Interesting that this was bumped. Yesterday I had to travel with a DVD but didn't want to bring a whole digipack with me. I had a extra keepcase (where it came from, I couldn't tell you) and put the disc in there. Later when I looked at the underside of the disc clouding had appeared on it. (I had also looked at it before I put it in the case.) Sure enough, it was a Scanavo case. There is definitely something wrong with these cases.
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post #179 of 183
6/1/08 at 7:01pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

I thought periodically checking 600 laserdiscs for rot every 6 months was a PITA. Imagine the daunting task of checking DVDs every month in Scanavo cases!

Or, in Shawn's case...EVERY DAY ! Ugh!
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post #180 of 183
6/1/08 at 7:04pm

Re: Disc problems with TV shows on DVD sets using Scanavo cases

The tree-huggers will use these off-gassing Scanavo DVD cases to push for legislation banning all PLASTIC water bottles.
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