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"Farewell, My Lovely" - how about it??

post #1 of 28
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Am I the only one who thinks this film more than deserves, at the very least, to be re-issued on DVD with a brand new transfer (restoration, possibly?) in OAR...?

Just curious to see what others think.
post #2 of 28

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I bought the region 2 DVD:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Farewell-My-...7068179&sr=1-2

which is full-screen and vhs-quality, and not very good vhs quality at that. I bought it under the assumption it would look better than the vhs.

The film is meticulously designed and photographed to evoke 1940s noir, and only a newly struck print and a new transfer would do it justice.

I would buy a region 1 DVD in a heartbeat.
post #3 of 28

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Roger ebert has a review on it.. Actor Jack O'Halloran from Superman 2 was in this movie.. it was his first film, and also his most favorite. I know that Jack is also interested in a better version of it on dvd.

Jacob


http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...501010318/1023
post #4 of 28

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Count me in, too. Excellent modern paean to classic film noir. One of only a handful of notable 1970's films I don't yet own.
post #5 of 28
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For what it is worth (maybe not a lot), Stallone is in it, too: he plays the guy with eyes for Frances Amthor's daughter.

Despite his age at the time, Mitchum is the definitive Marlowe, IMHO.

(I've always thought someone missed the boat big-time by not having Mitchum do it right around the time he did of "Out of the Past".)

Wonder what the chances are that Criterion would/could be interested in doing it...
post #6 of 28

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anyone know who owns the rights to it?

Jacob
post #7 of 28

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It was originally out on Artisan, thru their deal with Carlton, who controls the ITC/AFD stuff, and Lions Gate has been releasing many of that library, like RAISE THE TITANIC, MARCH OR DIE, etc, but all using horrible P & S tape masters, so it seems like this, if Lions gate reissues it, will fall into the same nightmare. ):
post #8 of 28

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I wish they would remaster this and put it out with excellent "Goodnight My Love" (1972) as an extra. It was a TV-movie but Richard Boone's Marlowe/Spade-ish character was fantastic. Michael Dunn and Barbara Bain were both brilliant.
post #9 of 28

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However, if Return of the Pink Panther is any indication, this might now be controlled by Universal. The only moderately recent ITC release I can think of that has been handled by Lionsgate is The Last Unicorn.
post #10 of 28
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Bump, under the theory that the squeaky wheel(s) get the grease...

(witness "The Naked Prey" release on 1/15/07)
post #11 of 28

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Saw it on the big screen back when.

Love it. Would definitely like to see its release.

Anybody seen this pop up on cable?
post #12 of 28
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Thread resurrection/bump:

Fyi to all/anyone, "Farewell" showed up on FLIX on my digital cable last night (Monday, 9/1/08) at 10:25pm.

Started watching... and lo and behold it was in it's OAR in a print/transfer that looked waaaaay better than the square/flat DVD of a few years back (which DVD I have in my collection)!!!

I missed it when it was originally released to theaters, so this broadcast was a revelation for me.

Any news of a new/"restored" DVD release would be most welcome!!!

(Criterion, are you "listening"... maybe... please???)
post #13 of 28

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Actor Jack O'Halloran is working on getting this movie released in a proper dvd special edition. here is a link over at the IMDB about it.

Jacob

IMDb :: Boards :: Farewell, My Lovely (1975) :: New DVD
post #14 of 28

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I saw it on the big screen when it came out. I've always liked the film, with Mitchum's narration and the evocative 40's style music score. I'd definitely spring for a decent OAR DVD.
post #15 of 28

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One of my most wanted titles - horrible DVD, one of the worst. The David Shire score is fantastic, too, and everything about the film works. I really doubt that Jack O'Halloran has any pull to get anything released on DVD, but maybe I'm missing something. Unless "Jacob" is Jack.
post #16 of 28

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I am his webmaster for his site.

Jack O'Halloran: The First Unofficial Site!
he told me that he was looking into it.
Jacob
post #17 of 28
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For anyone interested, FLIX has it listed as showing several times this month...

Agreed: the picture quality (let alone the framing) on the OOP DVD is really quite bad.

That's why I was pleasantly suprised to see it looking so damn good last night!

Other than the continual resurrection of this thread, what else can we fans do to help Jack get this film done properly on DVD?

It'd be great if he and Ms. Rampling and any other of the currently-living cast members could be involved to some degree... say, a commentary or 2 at the very least.

p.s. - trivia: that's writer Jim Thompson (novels: The Getaway, The Grifters, etc. and the screenplay for Paths of Glory) as Judge Baxter Wilson Grayle, Rampling's character's husband. Thompson was unfortunately blacklisted during the McCarthy era...
post #18 of 28

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Originally Posted by ScottFH
For anyone interested, FLIX has it listed as showing several times this month...

Agreed: the picture quality (let alone the framing) on the OOP DVD is really quite bad.

That's why I was pleasantly suprised to see it looking so damn good last night!

Other than the continual resurrection of this thread, what else can we fans do to help Jack get this film done properly on DVD?

It'd be great if he and Ms. Rampling and any other of the currently-living cast members could be involved to some degree... say, a commentary or 2 at the very least.

p.s. - trivia: that's writer Jim Thompson (novels: The Getaway, The Grifters, etc. and the screenplay for Paths of Glory) as Judge Baxter Wilson Grayle, Rampling's character's husband. Thompson was unfortunately blacklisted during the McCarthy era...

I don't believe this is correct - he is a credited writer on The Killing and that would not have been allowed had he been blacklisted. I've read many, many books on the blacklist and have never seen Jim Thompson's name listed.
post #19 of 28

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Billy's correct. Although Thompson was at one time a member of the Communist Party, he had severed his ties with them well before the blacklist.
post #20 of 28
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Don't want to get into an argument about this, but there appear to be quite a few citations available on the net which refer to his being blacklisted...

Also, if Kubrick (along with Kirk Douglas, of course, who is credited with hiring Trumbo) was of a mind to work with Dalton Trumbo on "Spartacus", it is no stretch to consider that he may've been of equal mind to work with Thompson on "The Killing" (on which Thompson is listed at IMDB for "additional dialogue") and "Paths of Glory" (on which he is listed at IMDB for "screenplay").

Offhand, I cannot recall if Thompson gets actual on-screen credit for either Kubrick film.

Of course & obviously, I stand humbly corrected if I have this wrong.
post #21 of 28

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I just watched this DVD the other day, it being one of my favorites. I would definitely upgrade the current DVD if a new one were available (I've never seen this film except on the DVD.)

BTW, it was mentioned above that Stallone plays a guy who has eyes for Frances Amthor's daughter. It seems pretty obvious to me that the girl is Amthor's lover, not her daughter. (Haven't read the book, just going by the movie here.)
post #22 of 28

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Originally Posted by ScottFH
Don't want to get into an argument about this, but there appear to be quite a few citations available on the net which refer to his being blacklisted...

Also, if Kubrick (along with Kirk Douglas, of course, who is credited with hiring Trumbo) was of a mind to work with Dalton Trumbo on "Spartacus", it is no stretch to consider that he may've been of equal mind to work with Thompson on "The Killing" (on which Thompson is listed at IMDB for "additional dialogue") and "Paths of Glory" (on which he is listed at IMDB for "screenplay").

Offhand, I cannot recall if Thompson gets actual on-screen credit for either Kubrick film.

Of course & obviously, I stand humbly corrected if I have this wrong.

He most certainly is credited on The Killing. I'd have to put on Paths of Glory to check that, but I'm telling you that in the mid-50s if Thompson had been blacklisted he could not have received credit on the film, and he does. Again, I have read many books on the blacklist along with many articles and Thompson's name has never appeared on any blacklist that I've seen. Your bringing it up here is the first time I've ever heard anyone make that supposition. I don't know where these "citations" were cited, but, you know, if it was the Internet I'd take it with a grain of salt.

By the time Douglas and Kubrick used Trumbo it was five years later and McCarthy was done. Both Spartacus and two months later Exodus credited Trumbo - however, it was Preminger who insisted on crediting him, even though Exodus came out a couple of months later, Preminger announced to the press before filming began that it was his intention to credit Trumbo - Douglas and Kubrick followed suit, but did not fight that particular battle.
post #23 of 28

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By the time Douglas and Kubrick used Trumbo it was five years later and McCarthy was done.

If you want to come off as being authoritative on this subject, you would do well to distinguish between the HUAC (HOUSE UnAmerican Activities Committee) and the activities of an American Senator that had nothing to do with Hollywood.
post #24 of 28

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Originally Posted by David_B_K
If you want to come off as being authoritative on this subject, you would do well to distinguish between the HUAC (HOUSE UnAmerican Activities Committee) and the activities of an American Senator that had nothing to do with Hollywood.

Oh, okay. HUAC and Senator McCarthy were done - how's that? Why don't you just address the issue at hand instead of picking nits? Someone made a blatant statement that Jim Thompson was blacklisted - no links, no nothing. I stated that it would not have been possible for him to have been credited on a film had he been blacklisted. That's the fact of the matter. I also clarified which director fought the battle for Trumbo to receive credit, and it wasn't Kubrick nor producer Kirk Douglas.
post #25 of 28

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Originally Posted by ted:r
I just watched this DVD the other day, it being one of my favorites. I would definitely upgrade the current DVD if a new one were available (I've never seen this film except on the DVD.)

BTW, it was mentioned above that Stallone plays a guy who has eyes for Frances Amthor's daughter. It seems pretty obvious to me that the girl is Amthor's lover, not her daughter. (Haven't read the book, just going by the movie here.)
The girl does not appear in the book. That entire sequence is a "re-imagining" of Raymond Chandler's original. For example, in the novel Amthor is a man. For what it is worth, I think it's an excellent piece of "re-imagining".

I agree it is obvious that the girl is Amthor's lover.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by BillyFeldman
Oh, okay. HUAC and Senator McCarthy were done - how's that? Why don't you just address the issue at hand instead of picking nits? Someone made a blatant statement that Jim Thompson was blacklisted - no links, no nothing. I stated that it would not have been possible for him to have been credited on a film had he been blacklisted. That's the fact of the matter. I also clarified which director fought the battle for Trumbo to receive credit, and it wasn't Kubrick nor producer Kirk Douglas.

So excuse me for pointing this out, but what about all the blatant statements you've made with "no links, no nothing" and no specific references to printed material?

The first place I read this was Britannica.com, just fyi... there are plenty more if one takes the time.

It always cracks me up when someone exhibits the same exact behavior of which they so readily accuse others, often in an in-your-face confrontational and adversarial manner.

Sure, there is a lot of crap on the net - it should also be self-evident by now that there is also a lot of..."non-crap" shall we call it?

Personally, I intend to do a little more research into the subject, including online and "non-online" resources, to hopefully get some clarification for myself. How about you?

OK, whatever: you're right, I was wrong.

There - that should be the end of that.

Now, what about "Farewell, My Lovely" and getting a decent DVD release?

Btw, thanks to ted:r's comments I re-viewed the scene he and Robin9 mention and I have to agree: the girl definitely appears to be Amthor's lover, not daughter. Thanks for pointing this out and making me take another look after all these years of thinking she was a daughter.

post #27 of 28

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Originally Posted by ScottFH
So excuse me for pointing this out, but what about all the blatant statements you've made with "no links, no nothing" and no specific references to printed material?

The first place I read this was Britannica.com, just fyi... there are plenty more if one takes the time.

It always cracks me up when someone exhibits the same exact behavior of which they so readily accuse others, often in an in-your-face confrontational and adversarial manner.

Sure, there is a lot of crap on the net - it should also be self-evident by now that there is also a lot of..."non-crap" shall we call it?

Personally, I intend to do a little more research into the subject, including online and "non-online" resources, to hopefully get some clarification for myself. How about you?

OK, whatever: you're right, I was wrong.

There - that should be the end of that.

Now, what about "Farewell, My Lovely" and getting a decent DVD release?

Btw, thanks to ted:r's comments I re-viewed the scene he and Robin9 mention and I have to agree: the girl definitely appears to be Amthor's lover, not daughter. Thanks for pointing this out and making me take another look after all these years of thinking she was a daughter.


I don't mean to be confrontational - I mean to set the record straight. One of my pet peeves is the propagating of incorrect information on the Internet - it's how this stuff becomes accepted as fact. After my first post about this, another gentleman posted that I was correct, and I am. I'm not bragging about it. You used the word "citations" on the net and finally provided a link to one - on britannica.com. I read it. It's one line in a very short piece written by - who? No sources cited, no nothing, just the line. If you go to wikipedia.com and read the long entry there you will find no mention of blacklisting (at least I couldn't find any) - you will find many other things and the sources from which they came. If Mr. Thompson had been blacklisted or even graylisted, it would be in that entry.

Furthermore, in Robert Polit's exhaustive biography of Jim Thompson, the word "blacklisting" appears three times in its over five-hundred pages - and none of its appearances refer to Mr. Thompson. In fact, I quote this line:
"he (Thompson) would never endure the silent scourge of the blacklist."

I should think that would put to rest the incorrect comments in this thread. Again, at the time of The Killing and Paths Of Glory, it would not have been possible for Mr. Thompson to receive on-screen credit if he'd been blacklisted. That is an easy fact to check.

The wikipedia entry can be found here:

Jim Thompson (writer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

And the biography is available everywhere.

And about getting a DVD release for Farewell, My Lovely - scroll up and you can read my comments about it.
post #28 of 28

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"Of course & obviously, I stand humbly corrected if I have this wrong."

Apparently not.
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