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post #181 of 2629

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Originally Posted by TerryRL
Expect that first week of February to really slow, especially considering that its Super Bowl weekend.
I don't know, I think “Hannah Montana/Myley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour.” The concert tour itself has been the biggest thing since the Beatles, with preteens and their parents packing venues across the country. I was still in Albany (the one that the whole soldier-father scandal was about) for that concert day and you'd think Elvis had been ressurrected. Some families flew in from Chicago and points west when they couldn't get tickets closer to home. There's going to be a lot of kids who couldn't go to the real deal that will want to see that. Normally I don't think these projected concert things work, but this will be an exception.
post #182 of 2629

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is that pre-teen girls specifically? it'd be strange to imagine boys enjoying that act.
post #183 of 2629

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Does the film feature the real Hannah Montana/Cyrus, or a stand-in double as used in the concerts?
post #184 of 2629

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I'm kinda confused. I know that this Miley Cyrus is the daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus. But is Hannah Montana another girl as well or are they advertising the same girl as two different people? Ones blonde and ones brunette right? Or... damn.. I just went crosseyed.
post #185 of 2629

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Originally Posted by DavidPla
I'm kinda confused. I know that this Miley Cyrus is the daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus. But is Hannah Montana another girl as well or are they advertising the same girl as two different people? Ones blonde and ones brunette right? Or... damn.. I just went crosseyed.
The latter. From what Malcolm says, I'm guessing the show also makes use of a body double so that sometimes Miley Cyrus can be on stage with "Hannah Montana" at the same time.
As for whether it's a strictly pre-teen girls, probably, but that doesn't matter. That's a HUGE demographic. Probably the most suseptible demographic to consumer culture there is.
post #186 of 2629

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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
The latter. From what Malcolm says, I'm guessing the show also makes use of a body double so that sometimes Miley Cyrus can be on stage with "Hannah Montana" at the same time.
As for whether it's a strictly pre-teen girls, probably, but that doesn't matter. That's a HUGE demographic. Probably the most suseptible demographic to consumer culture there is.
I don't know that they're on stage together, but it was a recent minor controversy when it was revealed that, for at least a (short) portion of the concerts, "Hannah Montana" is portrayed by someone other than Cyrus.
post #187 of 2629

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The two are never on stage with each other for more then a few seconds; there was a controversy recently in which it was revealed that after an "explosion" a body double walked up the stairs slow while Miley did a costume change and returned.

The double never sings, doesn't perform, etc. but does act as a "stand in" during costume changes.
post #188 of 2629
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The early bird estimates have "Meet the Spartans" and "Rambo" duking it out for the top spot, while "Cloverfield" took a steep percentage hit. Again, these are very rough estimates that have a slight margin of error.

Both "Meet the Spartans" and "Rambo" pulled in about $6 million. "Cloverfield" and "27 Dresses" are in a tight race for the third spot as both films earned in the area of $4 million yesterday. "Cloverfield" had a staggering Friday-to-Friday fall in the neighborhood of 70-75%, yikes! "27 Dresses" was off a much more moderate 40-45%.

"Untraceable" opened a bit stronger than anticipated as the early estimates have it taking in $3.5 million yesterday. "Juno" and "The Bucket List" were close behind, while NT2, "Mad Money" and "There Will Be Blood" rounded out the top ten.

"I Am Legend" topped the $250 million plateau, while 'National Treasure' and "Alvin & the Chipmunks' topped the double-century mark.

Judging from the early numbers, this weekend will mark the first time in history that every weekend in January saw the top twelve films earn more than $100 million.
post #189 of 2629

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From the groans I heard leaving the theater for Cloverfield last week, I had expected a big drop for this weekend.
post #190 of 2629
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I figured the movie would fall off by 50-55%, but a 70%-plus Friday-to-Friday drop is something not many expected (including the studio). Looks like the movie will be off by about 65% from last weekend. I didn't think it would take such a severe second-weekend hit.
post #191 of 2629

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
From the groans I heard leaving the theater for Cloverfield last week, I had expected a big drop for this weekend.

Those groans were all the people ready to puke from the shakycam!

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Originally Posted by Shawn.F
Colin,

I caught a screening of "U2 3D" Monday night. In a word: awesome.

Cool! When I posted, I didn't realize it was playing at an IMAX theater in DC. I'm seeing it Sunday!
post #192 of 2629

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I know it's still too early to tell but I'm so glad for this mini-comeback of Stallone's. This opening looks to be beat Rocky Balboa's opening of last year. It probably won't generate the same type of legs as that film but hopefully makes over 60 M domestically.
post #193 of 2629
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Friday Estimates

#1 "Meet the Spartans" $7.0 million
#2 "Rambo" $6.7 million
#3 "27 Dresses" $4.3 million ($36.0 million) 45% Friday-to-Friday drop
#4 "Cloverfield" $4.2 million ($55.8 million) 75% Friday-to-Friday drop (Ouch!)
#5 "Untraceable" $3.7 million
#6 "Juno" $2.9 million ($92.8 million) 4% Friday-to-Friday drop
#7 "The Bucket List" $2.8 million ($50.3 million) 32% Friday-to-Friday drop
#8 "There Will Be Blood" $1.3 million ($11.1 million) 52% Friday-to-Friday increase
#9 "Mad Money" $1.3 million ($11.9 million) 45% Friday-to-Friday drop
#10 "How She Move" $1.24 million
#11 "National Treasure: Book of Secrets" $1.23 million ($202.0 million) 39% Friday-to-Friday drop
#12 "Atonement" $1.0 million ($35.0 million) 19% Friday-to-Friday drop
post #194 of 2629

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"CLOVERFIELD"'s shaky cam was a bit much in my opinion. I felt REALLY sick!

I'm please for "UNTRACEABLE" as it was a very VERY good thriller. It reminded me of "SE7EN".
post #195 of 2629

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I said in the official discussion thread, Cloverfield had me leave the theater for a while to go throw up. Not that the film was bad, I just physically felt like I was going to vomit. I've talked to three other people who've seen it. Of us four, the two of us who had glasses or split frames could not get through it without leaving at some point; the clear-visioned seemed to not have that problem. *shrug*

But I, like some others, thought the ending was kind of weak sauce, but the fact that it made me sick at my stomach preferences any recommend I would give to it.
post #196 of 2629

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Given the discussion in the Cloverfield thread regarding the shaky-cam and the ambiguous ending, I'm not surprised at the huge drop. Word of mouth must be pretty weak, and I think the Cinemascore tally was only a "C".
post #197 of 2629

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#1 "Meet the Spartans"
Sigh.
I just cannot understand the popularity of these movies. The thing that frustrates about these films (in addition to the fact that they're generally not funny), is their extremely short shelf life - Sanjaya jokes are already out of date, and in a couple of years, noone is going to remember who Chris Crocker is. So it might make a bit of money in cinema, sell a few DVDs, but that is extremely short-term in its view. These films offer pretty much no prospect of longer-term revenue production. And I cannot understand why the studios keep making these movies when they could be putting money into making movies that could continue to generate income fo the next 25 or 30 years.
post #198 of 2629

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Because they are cheap to make and have a good return on investment.
post #199 of 2629

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Originally Posted by Lou Sytsma
Because they are cheap to make and have a good return on investment.

But I think he means short term investment. While "Wizard of Oz" is still making money for the studio after close to 70 years.. this film won't get anything after 2 years.
post #200 of 2629

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Originally Posted by DavidPla
But I think he means short term investment. While "Wizard of Oz" is still making money for the studio after close to 70 years.. this film won't get anything after 2 years.

How is a studio to know what films will be evergreens, though? Sure, it's easy to tell the ones that WON'T endure, but it's virtually impossible to have any clue what will strike a long-term chord with an audience. It's great to talk about developing projects that'll last for decades, but it's much, much more difficult to actually DO so. Those films are usually flukes...
post #201 of 2629
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Weekend Estimates

#1 "Meet the Spartans" $18.7 million
#2 "Rambo" $18.2 million
#3 "27 Dresses" $13.6 million ($45.3 million) -41%
#4 "Cloverfield" $12.7 million ($64.3 million) -68%
#5 "Untraceable" $11.2 million
#6 "Juno" $10.3 million ($100.2 million) +4%
#7 "The Bucket List" $10.2 million ($57.7 million) -28%
#8 "There Will Be Blood" $4.9 million ($14.8 million) +66%
#9 "National Treasure: Book of Secrets" $4.7 million ($205.4 million) -38%
#10 "Mad Money" $4.61 million ($15.3 million) -40%
#11 "Alvin & the Chipmunks" $4.60 million ($204.2 million) -35%
#12 "How She Move" $4.2 million

Business continued to be brisk for the industry as the top ten showed a nearly 33% improvement over last year's numbers. Compared to '06, business was up about 17%. Overall, the top twelve films pulled in a stellar $117.8 million. This marks the first time in history that the month of January has had every top twelve finish during its month tally more than $100 million.

With four days to go in the month, January '08 has earned a whopping $803.4 million, marking the first time in history that a January frame has topped the $800 million mark. The previous high for a January was in '06, when the month yielded a $777.3 million return.

Compared to past years, 2008's year-to-date gross represents a 19% increase over last year ($674.7 million), up 20% over '06 ($669.8 million), a massive 29% bump over '05 ($623.1 million), and a 23% improvement over '04 ($654.2 million).

Fox's "Meet the Spartans" surprised many within the industry as it debuted in the top spot. Many expected a battle between "Cloverfield" and "Rambo", but the comedy/spoof got out of the gates with a near $19 million haul. The film also enjoyed an 11% Friday-to-Saturday bump in business indicating that this one could end up having a very strong run in theaters. 'Spartans' earned a solid average of $7,188 from its 2,605 theaters.

Coming in close behind was Lionsgate's/Weinstein's "Rambo". The fourth flick of the once popular franchise pulled in a stellar haul of $18.2 million. For star and director Sylvester Stallone, this marks the fourth best opening of his long career, trailing the $33.4 million start of "Spy Kids 3D: Game Over" (from '03), the $20.2 million debut of "Rambo: First Blood Part II" (about a $39 million tick today), and the $19.9 million (just over $38 million today) opening of "Rocky IV" (both opened in '85).

The $18 million start for "Rambo" also represents the biggest opening Stallone has had as the headlining star since the mid-'80s. His last flick, "Rocky Balboa", opened with $12.2 million before legging its way to a stellar final domestic haul of $70.3 million. The producers feel that the same could be in store for "Rambo" (which earns its R rating by the way). The action flick's per-theater average of $6,597 from its 2,751 locations was the second best of the top twelve.

Fox's "27 Dresses" took a moderate drop of 41% and has so far tallied more than $45 million. Look for this one to top out in the neighborhood north of the $80 million plateau, giving Fox a nice return on their $30 million investment.

Another surprising development this weekend was the disastrous 68% collapse of last week's box office champ "Cloverfield". Still, the $25 million movie has now pulled in more than $64 million and is looking at a final gross in the area of $90 million. With such a steep decline, it is seriously doubtful that this one will get to the century mark.

Sony's "Untraceable" got off to a much more potent start than most believed as it opened with just over $11 million. The $35 million thriller even enjoyed an impressive 28% Friday-to-Saturday increase in business. The movie earned a solid average of $4,729 from its 2,368 theaters.

Four-time Oscar nominee "Juno" enjoyed a 4% bump in business this weekend as the comedy smash passed the century mark. "Juno" is far and away the most successful film of the five nominated movies for Best Picture. This marks the first time in history that Fox Searchlight has had a film earn more than $100 million.

WB's "The Bucket List" continues to show sturdy legs as it was off by only 28%. With more than $57 million banked thus far, this one should top out in the area of $85-$95, making the $45 million budgeted flick a profitable hit for the studio.

Eight-time Oscar nominee "There Will Be Blood" also enjoyed a post-nomination bump in business to the tune of 66%. The fact that the movie entered 496 more theaters also didn't hurt. The film's domestic haul now stands at $14.8 million.

Disney's "National Treasure: Book of Secrets" has now pulled in $205.4 million. Overture's "Mad Money" was off a moderate 40% and has now earned $15.3 million. Look for this one to top out with about $30 million. Fox's "Alvin & the Chipmunks" topped the double-century mark this weekend, bringing its tally to a phenomenal $204.2 million. Paramount Vantage's "How She Move" crashed and burned as it earned only $4.2 million this weekend, giving it a paltry per-theater average of $2,715 from its 1,531 locations.

Focus Features' "Atonement" didn't cash in on its seven Oscar nods as it took a 14% dip in business, despite entering 109 more locations (its now playing in 1,400 theaters).

That wasn't the case for Eight-time nominee "No Country for Old Men", which entered 289 more theaters (its now playing in 1,107 locations) and saw business increase a whopping 106%. The film has now earned $52 million. 'No Country' is the second most successful movie of the five nominees. The film also increased its Oscar hopes last night as directors Joel and Ethan Coen won the top prize from the DGA (Directors Guild Association). 15 of the previous 20 winners of the DGA award went on to take the Oscar for Best Director.

Seven-time nominee "Michael Clayton" enjoyed an even bigger bump as it was launched in 1,102 theaters, showing a monster 4,505% improvement. That film is currently sitting on a domestic mark of $41.5 million.

"U2 3D" opened in 61 IMAX theaters across the country and pulled in $946K, giving it a monster average of $15,508.

Next weekend will see the Super Bowl take all the headlines as the industry prepares for what they believe will be the first slow weekend of the year. In spite of this, four new releases will hit theaters. Lionsgate's "The Eye", New Line's "Over Her Dead Body", Paramount's "Strange Wilderness", and Disney's "Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour".

Look for "The Eye" to put up the strongest challenge for #1 as "Meet the Spartans" attempts to become the first '08 release to repeat as the nation's top box office attraction.
post #202 of 2629

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It would surprise me if "The Eye" brought in over $12 million next weekend.
post #203 of 2629

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
It would surprise me if "The Eye" brought in over $12 million next weekend.


I dunno. With Jessica Alba hitched and now knocked up, she may have lost some of her "fanbase". Myself included.

post #204 of 2629
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Patrick may be right, then again $12 mil may be enough to challenge for the top two spots at the box office next weekend, depending on how well both 'Spartans' and "Rambo" hold up. "Over Her Dead Body" could surprise and pull in bigger numbers than expected as well.

It should also be noted that "There Will Be Blood" will expand to between 900-1,000 more theaters on Friday.
post #205 of 2629

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Originally Posted by TerryRL
Another surprising development this weekend was the disastrous 68% collapse of last week's box office champ "Cloverfield". Still, the $25 million movie has now pulled in more than $64 million and is looking at a final gross in the area of $90 million. With such a steep decline, it is seriously doubtful that this one will get to the century mark.
Does this set a new benchmark of the record for largest opening weekend launch for a film that does not reach $100 million final gross? I know this was held by "Bram Stoker's Dracula" for a number of years, but I think it's been eclipsed since then by other films that have faded even faster like, apparently, "Cloverfield."
post #206 of 2629

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R
Does this set a new benchmark of the record for largest opening weekend launch for a film that does not reach $100 million final gross? I know this was held by "Bram Stoker's Dracula" for a number of years, but I think it's been eclipsed since then by other films that have faded even faster like, apparently, "Cloverfield."

I think it might be Scary Movie 3 or maybe 4 that made over 40 M but failed to get to 100 M.

Don't know if you have the stats Terry but how does Rambo's opening match against Stallone's other films.. maybe with inflation considering he's been around for over 30 years.
post #207 of 2629
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STALLONE'S DOUBLE-DIGIT OPENINGS

Unadjusted Numbers
#1 "Spy Kids 3D: Game Over" $33.4 million
#2 "Rambo: First Blood Part II" $20.2 million
#3 "Rocky IV" $19.9 million
#4 "Rambo" $18.2 million
#5 "Antz" $17.2 million
#6 "Cliffhanger" $16.2 million
#7 "The Specialist" $14.31 million
#8 "Demolition Man" $14.30 million
#9 "Cop Land" $13.5 million
#10 "Rambo III" $13.0 million
#11 "Cobra" $12.7 million
#12 "Rocky III" $12.4 million
#13 "Judge Dredd" $12.3 million
#14 "Driven" $12.2 million
#15 "Rocky Balboa" $12.2 million
#16 "Staying Alive" $12.1 million (directed only)
#17 "Daylight" $10.0 million

Adjusted for Inflation Numbers
#1 "Rambo: First Blood Part II" $39 million
#2 "Rocky IV" $38 million
#3 "Spy Kids 3D: Game Over" $37 million
#4 "Rocky III" $27 million
#5 "Cliffhanger" $26 million
#6 "Antz" $25 million
#7 "Demolition Man" $24 million
#8 "Staying Alive" $23 million (directed only)
#9 "Cobra" $23 million
#10 "The Specialist" $23 million
#11 "Rambo III" $22 million
#12 "Cop Land" $20 million
#13 "Judge Dredd" $19 million
#14 "Rambo" $18 million
#15 "Daylight" $16 million
#16 "Driven" $15 million
#17 "Rocky Balboa" $13 million
post #208 of 2629
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Malcolm, "Cloverfield" will become only the second movie in history with an opening weekend haul of at least $40 million to not end up passing the $100 million mark domestically. It will be joining the 2006 flick "Scary Movie 4", which opened with $40.4 million and went on to earn $90.7 million domestically. "Cloverfield" is on pace to earn in the neighborhood of $85-$90 million.
post #209 of 2629

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Thanks Terry! Even Stallone's "bombs" of the 90s would probably be seen as respectable openings in today's market. Nice to see Stallone have a nice little comeback.
post #210 of 2629

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Hannah Montana concert movie sets presale records

It's #8 on MovieTickets.com's all-time list of presales Only opening in 643 theaters is going to hurt its potential, but I reiterate that this will be the shocker of the weekend.
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