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post #91 of 875

Re: 24: Season Seven

It's nice to see Jack out of LA. And yes, it's irritating to see Jack being held accountable in this way, but they did give voice to the viewer point of view with the FBI agent in the car with him. To a degree, I don't mind Jack being held responsible for the same reasons he mentioned. Still, at some point, I'd like to see him back being the Hero and not the scapegoat.

I don't remember how Tony supposedly died, but he definitely didn't die immediately from the stab in the neck. I remember us here talking about how much/fast he was recovering from that stab wound as he continued doing things in that season (probably the same season Michelle died, which is what was driving him).

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post #92 of 875
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Re: 24: Season Seven

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
I don't remember how Tony supposedly died, but he definitely didn't die immediately from the stab in the neck.
He was going to overdose Peter Weller's character with a syringe of CTU torture juice but Henderson grabbed the needle and stabbed it into Tony's chest and poisoned him.
post #93 of 875

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Tony died because Henderson (Peter Weller's character) injected him with chemicals that Tony was going to use to kill him, for vengence for Michelle's death.

I wonder if the hearings at the beginning were lip service to the criticism 24 got in the sixth season for their "promotion" of toture.

Also Tony wasn't stabbed in the neck. He was shot in the neck but that was in Season 3
post #94 of 875

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Agent Walker (Anne Wersching) is pretty hot for a FBI agent. I can do without Chloe-wannabe.

Sam (Carly Pope) is also very easy on the eyes.

Season 7 is off on a good start.
post #95 of 875

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
Agent Walker (Anne Wersching) is pretty hot for a FBI agent. I can do without Chloe-wannabe.

Sam (Carly Pope) is also very easy on the eyes.

Season 7 is off on a good start.

Chloe-wannabe is Janeane Garafalo, isn't she?
post #96 of 875

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Yes.
post #97 of 875

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Originally Posted by WillG
Also Tony wasn't stabbed in the neck. He was shot in the neck but that was in Season 3

Yeah, I've rewatched a few seasons lately, it all must've blurred together a bit. I knew he was stabbed with a syringe and injected, but I thought it was in the neck for some reason.

Anyway, I've seen the 20 minutes I missed and I don't buy that explanation at all. They say Tony was taken away by paramedics... why would paramedics or doctors or anyone who didn't know who he was fake his death. I mean he might have at the time believed the President would come after him or something, but at the same time, he would've needed a ton of support to do that, and without Michelle or Jack knowing, who would've helped him to do that.

Whatever, I'll get past that, it was a good return for the first two hours, took what Redemption started and ramped it up a bit, but who knows how well they'll be able to maintain that momentum through the season. Hopefully it'll at least continue through tomorrow. (I seem to recall the awful season 6 even having a pretty decent opening 4 hours).
post #98 of 875

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Off to a good start, although I did laugh out loud at how unbelievable the van/car crash was at the beginning.
post #99 of 875

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Technical implausibility, moles, and silly office romance/politics -- 24 is back!

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Tanner only looked wounded (after Jack used him as a shield) so I'm not counting him
Yes, apparently he still has information to move the plot forward.

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I wonder if the hearings at the beginning were lip service to the criticism 24 got in the sixth season for their "promotion" of toture.
Yes of course. I also recall a promo bit after Redemption with the FBI boss unconvincingly stating that since we're the good guys we follow the rules, and Jack puts him in his place and tells how How Things Are Done.

The writers should stop being so damned sensitive about their wacko fantasy world and concentrate on making sure the action and excitement outweighs the stupidity.

The hot babes also help.
post #100 of 875

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Originally Posted by Michael_K_Sr
Off to a good start, although I did laugh out loud at how unbelievable the van/car crash was at the beginning.

I've a feeling you're gonna have lots of laughs throughout the series, as the next poster Ken says : Technical implausibility, moles, and silly office romance/politics -- 24 is back!
post #101 of 875

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I think Anne Wersching was the real standout of the past two hours for me so far. She and Kiefer Sutherland seem to have very good chemistry on screen, and her character and Jack make for a pretty effective team (she keeps her cool, can come up with an effective cover story at the drop of a hat, keeps Jack on a good leash, is tactically intelligent and an excellent shot). If the producers have pegged her as a potential love interest, I hope they keep it on a Mulder-and-Scully level. She's a definite step up from the ever-in-distress Audrey.

Heh, now just watch and find out she's the mole. Anything's possible at this point.
post #102 of 875

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I don't buy that explanation at all. They say Tony was taken away by paramedics...

I don't buy it either which is why I believe they just rushed through the explanation in the first 15 minutes hoping no one would really notice and off we go with the plot. As long as Jack is seen as buying it, who is the audience to complain?
post #103 of 875

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Originally Posted by TravisR
The President's son committed suicide (or was most likely murdered) after Redemption and before S7. Near the end of Redemption, Jon Voight and a secret service agent say that the son will need to be taken care of since he heard his drug addict friend's info that can link him to funneling money to General Juma in Sangala.
I was surprised that he was dead already. I thought this was something we would see this season.
post #104 of 875

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Originally Posted by Michael_K_Sr
Off to a good start, although I did laugh out loud at how unbelievable the van/car crash was at the beginning.
They wanted him alive. How could they be sure that he wouldn't have died in either of those crashes? Poor planning/bad writing.
post #105 of 875
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Originally Posted by NeilO
They wanted him alive. How could they be sure that he wouldn't have died in either of those crashes? Poor planning/bad writing.
I think it's more of a desire to shock the audience in the first minute more than anything else. It's not like it takes Shakespeare to realize that a much easier and covert way of getting the guy would be to quietly kidnap him at home rather than cause a big accident and fire off guns in the streets of downtown Washington D.C.

Or maybe Tony is still a good guy and wanted to cause a scene to get everyone's attention so the government tries stop him and, by extenstion, his boss.
post #106 of 875

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Or maybe Tony is still a good guy

Of course he is! It was made pretty obvious he was playing along to gain the other bad guy's trust as to the "real" act of terror to follow. Even if the Feds checked the other agencies for an undercover op... that just means he's now a paid up member of Her Majesty's Secret Service.
post #107 of 875

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I don't buy that explanation at all. They say Tony was taken away by paramedics...

Hopefully there's more to the story that we'll find out soon. I thought I heard a line last night that suggested this, but I can't remember what it was so perhaps I'm just imagining that.
post #108 of 875

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I thought it was a decent start. Much better than that 'Redemption' nonsense. The comedy factor was definitely high. I especially liked Jack's homemade silencer with the dirty towel sitting on the ground.

One complaint I have is I think Cherry Jones is horribly cast as president. She is just not presidential in any way. She seems like she should be playing Chloe's mom or something instead. I suppose you could make the same case for Logan, but at least he was thrown in from being VP (and wasn't actually elected).
post #109 of 875

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
Agent Walker (Anne Wersching) is pretty hot for a FBI agent. I can do without Chloe-wannabe.
This probably isn't really a spoiler, but just in case Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
how many episodes until we get the real Chloe? imdb is no help as she is listed for the whole series
post #110 of 875
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^Regarding the above spoiler Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I don't know the specific episode but it must be before episode 8 because they were talking about Chloe returning before the writer's strike shut them down.
post #111 of 875

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^^Regarding the above spoiler about the above spoiler

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I predict we will see Chloe tonight. In the previews last night the announcer said something like, "you won't have to wait past tomorrow night for the next big surprise!" While to me seeing Chloe isn't much of a surprise, you know how they are with those promotions. I think we might see Buchanon tonight as well.
post #112 of 875

Re: 24: Season Seven

Great to have Jack back!!! I watched the premiere with a very critical eye because I was so disgusted by S6 that I wanted to see if the show had its' old magic back for this new season and so far I'm not disappointed. It was a very fun 2 hours and it flew by IMHO. Can't wait for the 2nd half of the premiere tonight.
post #113 of 875

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My other observations...

I am getting tired of this cliche'

To inform the Joe Six Pack viewing audience about political issues, have the dumb, I'm just like you are, President ask 1000 question after being told a fact.

Important Guy - Madam Prez, they have control of our computer systems.
M. Prez - Huh? What does that mean? What can they do with that? Can't we just pull a plug???

I miss the days of Haysbert as Prez Palmer. Now that was a President.

If I worked in a company where there were that many moles hindering my work, I would look for another line of work.

The RoboCop count goes +1 !
Kurtwood Smith!

Although I liked the episodes (and there are 2 more to watch) this has to be the weakest, in terms of action and thrills of any 24 opener.
post #114 of 875

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Originally Posted by ScottH
I thought it was a decent start. Much better than that 'Redemption' nonsense.

I'm with you, Scott. I thought Redemption was dreadfully boring but was quite pleased with the first 2 episodes of Season 7.
post #115 of 875

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Originally Posted by Bryan Beckman
I think Anne Wersching was the real standout of the past two hours for me so far. She and Kiefer Sutherland seem to have very good chemistry on screen, and her character and Jack make for a pretty effective team (she keeps her cool, can come up with an effective cover story at the drop of her hat, keeps Jack on a good leash, is tactically intelligent and an excellent shot). If the producers have pegged her as a potential love interest, I hope they keep it on a Mulder-and-Scully level. She's a definite step up from the ever-in-distress Audrey.

Heh, now just watch and find out she's the mole. Anything's possible at this point.

Yes, I thought Renee was good too. Everything else you say makes sense tho

As for her boss, he looks like George Mason, talks like George Mason...
post #116 of 875
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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller
To inform the Joe Six Pack viewing audience about political issues, have the dumb, I'm just like you are, President ask 1000 question after being told a fact.

Important Guy - Madam Prez, they have control of our computer systems.
M. Prez - Huh? What does that mean? What can they do with that? Can't we just pull a plug???
I hate those lines because I think they're there for nitpickers (rather than to fully spell out things for dummies). I have little doubt that if they didn't have lines like that, this thread would have lots of posts saying "Why can't they just turn it off? BAD WRITING!"
post #117 of 875

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According to a writeup in USAToday's television column today, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
both Chloe and Bill will be appearing in tonight's episode.
post #118 of 875

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Originally Posted by Michael_K_Sr
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both Chloe and Bill will be appearing in tonight's episode.

Using the 24 magic teleportation machine.

It will get you from L.A. to Washington D.C. by the commercial break.

Or, let me guess, they were subpoenaed for questioning in Jack's trial.
post #119 of 875

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BIG SPOILER

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Chloe comes in around episode 3 I believe as she helps Jack break Almeda out of custody... and then the hijinks begin!
post #120 of 875

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Another thing I had to laugh at was the new "Angry Almeida" look. Did he have that angry face surgically placed?

And what's the over/under on number of episodes Jack and Tony are working together?
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