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GOD I LOVE JACK!!!!!!!!!! I don't care what president he mentioned.

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Yep. But at least it looks like her mother is getting ready to pay a steep price for making the ludicrous decision to name her acting chief of staff.

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Him going postal on Garafalo was absolutely priceless. I didn't find the episode as a whole all that enthralling, but that brief moment was gold.

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I'd been waiting for someone to put Garafalo in her place this whole season.

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Being how it's not really a secret the way Garafalo thinks in real life is not all that dissimilar to her character, you might think that her getting bitched out might have been a somewhat humiliating experience in real life. I wonder if there was any tension there.

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You could read it at least a few different ways. On the surface, sure; but when you consider how ridiculous the situation on the show is, it's far too easy to dismiss.

Look at what the show is setting up now: find a "Muslim" dupe to frame to hide the fact that the terrorism is being done on purpose by "The Group" -- whatever "political" label you want to apply them. Which "side of the argument" does that help? Are the writers even trying to take a side, and if so, are they actually taking the side they think they're taking?

I am impressed by the Shadowy Conspiracy Groupware though, complete with voice masking and voting.

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I can't wait to see that pop up on rentacoder.

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Looks like everything is setting up for quite a finish. The exchange between Jack and Hodges and then between Jack and Chloe shows the ending will confront some sort of moral ambiguity with what Tony is doing.

The remaining episodes should be interesting and I thought this episode was outstanding all around (for 24).

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I also first thought it was a call to a reporter as well. One thing that really puzzles me about her actions is, what's the hurry? Yes, it keeps the plot going inside the 24 hours, but Hodges still might have more useful information. If she waited until things calmed down, she could have a more satisfying revenge.

I'm still surprised we haven't heard any repercussions about the former chief of staff, who didn't blow it by letting Jack interrogate that aide in a previous episode. I would have thought that the President would have given him a call. I guess he has been forgotten.

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The conversation between Jack and Chloe was interesting. Chloe is definitely speaking for a lot of the audience (myself included) when she is asking why Tony would do this...Jack seems to be speaking for the writers when he says "he's evil, deal with it."

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It's been clear to me for a long time that the only "side" the writers of 24 take is their own. They need to keep the story going, and they've been equal-opportunity exploiters of every paranoia and conspiracy theory out there, no matter what the origin, in their endless quest for plot points.

I remember an article, at some point after the first season, where one of the top guys (either Cochrane or Gordon) commented on how astonished they were at how quickly the show would "devour" plot. They'd have events mapped out that they thought would last them for eight or nine episodes, but all the material would be used up after three or four. Ever since then, you could see them turning in every direction looking for villains and adversaries, both long-term and intermediate, and they haven't been fussy about who'll they take.

Look at the second season: We started with Arab terrorists and ended with European oilmen. Since then, we've had drug cartels, a rogue British agent, a crazed ex-First Lady, sleeper cells, Chinese intelligence, Jack's own father and brother, a wide assortment of turncoat Secret Service and other trusted government employees, various military contractors, and -- oh yeah -- the President of the United States.

Despite people's attempts to project one onto it, 24 doesn't have an ideology. At most it has a code, which is that honorable people are rare, and being honorable brings you no reward. The latter part is, I'm sure, what lies at the heart of Tony's motive. He said as much in the early episodes.

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So after Tony does a 180 and is bad, we also get the President's daughter (who slept with a reporter to advance her own goals, planted a story to oust the chief of staff) getting sentimental over her brother; and the president cutting a deal for the guy who turned her against her own military advisors. It's too much for me. I'm watching, but I don't have much emotional investment left at this point. Great first 3/4 of the season up til Tony flipped. Definitely a rebound from the last few years.

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David Palmer had it even worse in season 4, when he had to pardon Mandy, who'd tried to kill him. But that's part of the loopy fun of 24. They keep finding clever ways to force people into impossible choice scenarios that would never occur in real life.

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I'm rooting for Tony.

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I'm certainly finding it impossible to root against him.

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I like your summary. If the script writers called me, I'd suggest a cameo role and for Mulder and Scully.

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did they plan the last 14 episodes out all @once or just wrote it on the fly?

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Tony thinks it's a good idea to stage an attack now with the one remaining canister. If that's what he thinks, then why did he destroy the missiles with the rest of the canisters just before they launched?

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Jonas' attack was unauthorized. They also probably didn't want such a large scale attack as Jonas was planning.

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Also, since Jonas was acting entirely for himself and does not even know the identity of the other group members, there was no way to determine whether he had targeted areas of importance (whether personal or professional) to other group members.

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On a completely different topic, was anyone else with a big screen distracted by the booger/protruding nostril hair in Will Patton's nose? (He was Tony's lady friend's inside guy in the syndicate of new bad guys. Also played the white coach in Remember the Titans and the homosexual psychotic political aide in No Way Out.) Sometimes, HD is not a good thing. Not at all.

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Nah most inteligent thinking people, not to mentions actors and actresses can seperate performance from real life, and know that it's only a TV Show.

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Well put, Dave. We've already covered this.

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Isn't that why they call it "acting".......one of the most fun parts about acting is learning how to play a character that is diametrically oppossed to your lifestyle / personality / beliefs. I spent time on stage during high school and college and the the ability to be able suspend your beliefs while acting is one of the most important things to do.

It is actually easier to play someone who is not at all like yourself because you must act to do it. If you are playing someone who is just like you it is actually more difficult.

I think it will be interesting to see how they tie many of the loose ends up in the last few episodes. Who will die, who will live, and what surprises and twists will happen.

Mike

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If anyone wants to know who the "BIG BAD" is this year pulling the strings, EW spoiled it without warning back in March. If true, then according to EW it is:

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That's what lack of self control will do for you. I now wish I hadn't read that spoiler. It will actively change how I view the rest of the season. But what else would it do? What was I thinking by clicking it in the first place?

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Well, I read the spoiler (and surprisingly hadn't seen it mentioned in EW ...) and wasn't all that surprised. In fact, I've been thinking along those same lines myself (especially with some of the events of the past hour .....)

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Now see, I'm the opposite. I wouldn't have forseen that because:

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