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Jack Bauer doesn't get affected by a virus, the virus gets affected by Jack Bauer.

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From the look on her face, when the ridiculous President Mum is being briefed on the bio-weapons, I wonder if the daughter is realizing that she has bitten off more than she can chew. I called her Mean Girl a few posts ago...

And now she is setting up Agent Pierce for something?

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The President's most glaring inadequacy so far (but one most of us can understand on some level) is her burning desire for her daughter to be who she wants her to be rather than taking a cold hard look at who she is. The show can keep us guessing because it often shows us the daughter through mom's eyes, and then slowly trickles out her true nature (like calling the reporter).

The Starkwood Standoff is good stuff as long as you don't let "reality" cloud your acceptance of the storyline. Still, if I accept the premise, it's irritating to me that the good guys would go in with such minimal force/strength when they knew what they were up against. If a place like the Starkwood they've described goes rogue, you need a completely overpowering and dominating force at the command. I get that the attempt was for a targeted surgical strike, but there should be a much greater force around the perimeter (or at least on the way). Now they're sitting there holding their... um, guns... in their hands.

But none of that really matters to me. I've had this feeling growing for awhile now that when all is said and done, this may end up being my favorite season of "24" ever. S1 was a first love, but it had ridiculously frustrating "Oh, come ON!" detours. The pace of this season has been really good, though some would point out the true "24 hour" nature of the show has long since been abandoned
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I was wondering why we didn't see her call her buddy at the 11 PM News to tell him that the story she fed him was wrong. For that matter, I was wondering why the President didn't call up Ethan and tell him that he hadn't blundered with Jack Bauer.

Like most of you (I presume), when they were coming to Starkwood I knew there was no way they would be coming to the right building. The suspense was building up quite well, but with so many hours left to go and Jack on the sidelines, there was no way they wouldn't be double-crossed by Seaton. Jack needs to ride in to the rescue, even if he is about to die.

I have no idea how things are really going to progress from here, which is a good thing.

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So what was Seaton's angle? Surely he doesn't still get his immunity since he lied about the location of the weapons.

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He was this week's McGuffin. Kind of an elaborate plot to delay a few minutes.

2 things...

1) I don't think he really cares about immunity, he is 100% with the plan.

2) The way Tony looks him over, I'm guessing he won't see another few hours.

I wonder how difficult it would be to neutralize that location?
Cut all power, lights, etc. If they generate their own power, send an EMT in there.
On one hand, it is a very interesting plot, especially with Jack landlocked.
On the other, I just don't see the threat. Starkwood has been uncovered.
They could bring the armed forces to that location and point every tank there.
Their only play is to let loose the weapon inside the compound, which would kill them and they are not on a suicide mission.

I don't care who they have hostage, just fly a couple of bombers over and make the place a parking lot in a matter of seconds.

I anxiously await their explanation for getting out of this.

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Wasn't Stokes the lead Starkman guy in the standoff at the end? I thought the whole thing with Greg shooting him in the back was faked as part of the decoy ploy to buy Hodges more time with the bioweapon.

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It was...and in fact I was even thinking Tony was stupid for not checking that guy's pulse before they left him there.

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OK, so, who thinks there's a magical cure at Starkwood that gets discovered a few episodes from now?

(All jokes aside, last night was a great rush, a lot of suspense and build-up and next week should be kick-ass too.)

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Oh trust me, the public would never know.

Just like the public would shit a brick if an American fighter plane shot down a Airliner heading towards a building, but they would do it.

You have located, on American soil, a biological weapon in a private military compound which has proven to be in league with the guy who attacked the White House.
You don't draw up a plan, you take care of it, quickly.
Tell the public, they attacked on the military and there was no other option.
We aren't talking about GM or Ford, this is a private military.

I tell Moss, get your men and leave. Wave goodbye to the dude from the helicopter as the bombs come down.

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Sounds like a [good] plan to me. Don't even bother getting President Mum to electronically sign-off on it

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I'm with Doug. Get the FBI out of there and turn Starkwood into a parking lot.

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...which is why the writers threw in a quick line, like, "We can't carpet bomb the place because we might miss and all of the weapon could be released if the bombs miss their targets" or whatever. Because yeah, flattening the place under the circumstances probably would have been the best option.

I wonder what Starkwood's endgame is. When the plan had been to assist terrorists in attacking America, it seemed pretty straightforward motive - Starkwood was rigging things to make it appear that the army was shorthanded, and thus wanted the government to contract even more of their services. But if everyone knows it's Starkwood behind things, and the Starkwood people know they've been made... I'm just wondering what they're going for. I'm hoping it's something good!

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Okay, now we've got Robert H. Justman and Rick Berman to add to Ethan Canin.

Is there any doubt that Jim Kirk will show up next week?

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Hard to swallow when we have been fed videos on CNN showing the US Military targeting shed sized buildings in Iraq and destroying them with pin point accuracy.


This is the real question. What does Voight's character want? I was under the impression it was to show how the government needs Starkwood, so they release this weapon anonymously and come and save the day.

Now, unless they are planning to overthrow the government, a huge pill to swallow even in the 24 universe, what exactly do they want?
The "do this" or we will release the weapon is going determine how crazy the rest of the season is going to be.
So far, I am enjoying the ride, especially the little trist next week with the Prez daughter, gaaa-roowwwl.

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I think it would have been more accepted if they had said "It's political doomsday to start bombing a place on US soil. Even if we wipe out the threat, it will be years of congressional trials, investigations, claims and counterclaims. It will sink our administration"

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But they stated the base was 3 sq. miles. That quick negates the effectiveness of pin point accuracy. Carpet bombing would be needed, and yes, I'm betting in the real world, it's quite doable.

Given that:

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I would bet the 'magical' exlir will be a major part of 1 or 2 episodes. How many episodes are left? 6, 7?

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manny coto, one of the current showrunners of 24 was on enterprise and spearheaded season4 revival despite it not lasting very long. so the trek reference is a little


PS the reason why the FBI is surrounded is so they can bring jack bauer back into action .

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Agreed. Even his expressed doubts to Voight's character and the subsequent dressing down were purposely done within Tony's earshot in order to sell the mis-direction.

Regards,

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Didn't Tony put down with 2 mercs.

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It seems pretty clear from what the the medical technician said that

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I've always kinda wondered what this show would be like without Jack(or at least without him in a lead role) and after the last couple episodes I can honestly say that it hasn't missed a beat even with him in the background. Tony is doing awesome in the Jack role and Voight's character has really brought a lot to this season. In fact, I'd say he's by far the best villain the show has ever had.

I certainly don't think Jack will spend the final 7 episodes sitting in front of a computer at FBI headquarters as they established something of an "out" for him tonight. Potentially bad news for the Kim haters, though.