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Decent episode. Will be interesting to see where it goes since...

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Also, did anyone notice right at about the 31 minute mark someone appeared to walk right in front of the camera when it was on President Taylor? Seemed odd to me that they didn't edit it out.

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Can't believe the almost first-daughter-in-law is dunzo.

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Yeah, that was hardcore.

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The whole subplot with the First Husband is the biggest yawner of the season so far. And I'll vote that Hillinger as the most annoying character. Glad we didn't see much of him here.

Best line of the night: "Are you with the FBI?" "No, I'm a stay at home mom!"

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definitely the best line of the night. but what really sold it was her facial expression. that was pretty funny.

i am enjoying this season almost as much as i did seasons one and two.

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I thought it was pretty good how he managed to get the best of his secret service agent. If he is able call back to the White House and talk to the President he should be able to convince her that the government has been infiltrated. If he can't get in contact with her directly, just who can he trust?

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Now I'm really wondering, when they showed the wrong preview during the NFC game, how the hell many weeks ahead that preview was for...

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So is a tracker that they put on someone to be able to find them once they turn them over to the bad guys actually going to work this time? I would have laughed if Jack told Chloe "Don't waste your time, the first thing they do is scan for a tracker and disable it." Plus it seems risky in that situation, if it was discovered, the whole undercover operation would be jeopardized. On the other hand, the bad guys might not be expecting it.

Did they show, or say when and how Jack contacted Bill and Chole so they could pick up Renee.

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I actually don't have too much to nit about last night's episode.
But it wouldn't be a 24 thread without something...

First, Has Jack Bauer shown up yet? This has to be the least Jack-centric 24 of the entire series, at least for now.

The major problem with this season is that they want you to believe that this peanut size country is a major threat to the U.S. If that ever happens, this country deserves everything it gets. I think in reality, they would deliver Mutumbo with a bow, let them take him back, then carpet bomb the whole place. I'm just not feeling the threat.

This woman president is being displayed as a huge buffoon. Killing hundreds, potentially thousands of civilian Americans to protect some impoverished acre of land.
I'll be interested in seeing how they can save her character.

The bungling secret service agent with this grand scheme of mr. Prez killing the chick, then hanging himself in her apartment. Boy what an ingenious idea.
Like the autopsy wouldn't reveal he had a muscle tranquilzer racing through his blood stream. The agents shoes/footprint are all over the apartment, stairs, etc.
It would take the worst CSI agents about 5 minutes to figure it out.
Killing someone with a knife is not clean and easy work, his sweat and hair would be all over her body.

Again, this third world revolutionary has the power to pull the strings on the most powerful departments in the government?

As Dr. Evil says... Riiiiggggggghhhhhhht

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I was wondering that as well. Must be that telepathic connection that Jack and Chloe have.

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There was a throwaway voice-over line just as the van was pulling up to the dig-site. Chloe said something like "is this where Tony said she was burried, when he phoned in?"

It was sort of quiet, muffled by the sound of the van, but it was there (that's not a direct quote, either).

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I know it was said, but it seems unlikely that Tony or Jack would have been able to secretly contact them. If it wasn't shown, that's a pretty big cheat.



It's not just about Sangala anymore. It's about refusing to yield to Terrorist demands. It's a politically impossible situation. Personally, as much as the situations sucks, I'm kind of thinking it's the right call. There's not telling how many more Americans could die in the long run if we the US was deemed willing to give into demands.

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I have a deal with 24 in my mind...

I will forgive you all the nutty, goofy, sloppy, partially thought out, inexplicable gaffs and ridiculous situations. In return, you must keep me entertained.

The result so far? Snoooooooooooorrrrrrrre.

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Best laugh out loud understatement of the year line:
Jack: How are you doing?
FBI Agent Renee: You shot me and then buried me alive, how do you think I'm doing?

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I am quite disappointed that Carly Pope will no longer make guest appearances.

The dialog had Tony making the contact. I suppose that while Emerson and the driver were busy watching Jack shoot and cover her, that Tony was able to send a message -- texting, tapping out Morse code with his molars using a secret transmitter, whatever. The less said the better; which also applied to how he managed to live, but they blew that too with their unsatisfying explanation.

Wouldn't sending in some teams to assassinate the leadership be a lot less messy?

The worst hole this season is that there's a magic box that allows you to take control over everything. Why would you make yourself vulnerable like that? In addition to the other stuff they're doing, they should find those responsible for that great idea and give them the maximum demotion.

There is also a completely independent system designed to prevent mid-air collisions called TCAS, but in 24's fantasy universe....

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That's really an excellent point.

Another thing worth thinking about concerning these terrorists... we don't exactly know if they're trustworthy. I certainly wouldn't consider them to be. So what's to say that they would actually follow through on their word if the President decided to make a deal with them? Would they really give back the "magic box that controls everything"? Since it was constructed by the terrorists (under the supervision of the original designer) rather than stolen from the government, what's to say that these terrorists don't have another one handy, or can't make another one given the time? At any rate, it seems unlikely to me that if the President gave in their demands that it would be as simple as the terrorists giving the box back. Because of that, I don't see how the President has any choice but to continue to refuse to negotiate with them. Does anyone seriously believe that if the U.S. gave these guys what they wanted that they'd just go away and never be a threat to the U.S. again, scouts honor?

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Yeah, enormous holes. Even Dr Strangelove would have been able to advise the Prez to pretend to withdraw the fleet for a week or two, while they went about re-engineering whatever makes them susceptible to the magic box.

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Who is the real Big Bad? There seem to be many villains, but I can't see the connections.

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Yeah, just like in "Air Force One" when Harrison Ford complied with Gary Oldman's demand, Oldman planned to keep Ford hostage in order to leverage him more.

Or, when Dr. Evil still planned on covering every city on earth with Liquid hot Mag..MA even after he was paid his ransom.

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Yea, but what demands are we talking about?
All they are asking, as far as I can tell, is for them to pull their forces back.
All you have to do to save face is say that there are emergencies back at home and we need our entire military force there.
We are talking about potential civilian plane crashes here with the terrorist threat most likely on U.S. soil.
The goal is to buy time without sacrificing a single American life.
If this country can't defend itself, why is that America's problem?
Again, if you listen to this moron President, she is the one making it about Sangala, not yielding to the terrorist demands.
Sec State - Madam President, we need to pull out our troops to save American lives.
President - AND CONDEMN A GENERATION OF SANGALIANS TO DEATH!??!?
Sec State - Madam President, are you sure you heard me corrrectly?? You may want to lie down for a few minutes and let us handle it.

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Here in the Washington DC area there is a lot of interest in this season, especially when they make geographic goofs such as this from today's Washington Post.

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Yeah, but it doesn't really matter what the demand is. It's just bad policy to comply. Just like as been said above. If they give into that one demand, who's to say that the terrorist won't start making more demands, who's to say if they will give up the CIP device. Right now, I can't think of any movie with similar terroist/ransom situations where the bad guys intended to honor their part of the deal if whoever the threat was against complied. I know that's not reality, but there's no reason to think it will be different in real life.


I don't remember the entire speech she gave her cabinet, but she did clearly say that the US does not negotiate with terroists.

Also, in that scene, someone said that her decision would like lead to her impeachment? Can that actually happen? I don't know for certain, but I was under the impression that there had to be some kind of legal charge or investigation for that to happen and not just because you were possibly on the wrong call of a decision.

What's going to happen to Tony, Bill and Chole when this is all over. Even if their operation saves the day, they were still rogue, which I'm guess means that they (especially Tony) would be held complicit in delivering the CIP device, not to mention near crashing two planes.

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Blind texting in his jacket pocket, FTW!!!!

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If, at the end of the day (or morning of the next day ), Tony, Bill, and/or Chloe are still alive, they will probably just be happy to be better off than 90% of the endangered species known as "Friends of Jack".

Regards,

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But it seems to me, they don't have to answer anything, just pull the troops off without a word. No complying with anyone.

I would think the impeachment talk comes from the fact that she is super pig headed and won't listen to a word from any of her advisors. She shouldn't waste anyone's time by calling a meeting.

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You guys are generating some serious eye rolling. You're complaining that it's so obvious that the president is stupid for getting us involved in a war on the principle of fighting terrorists? And the war is overseas and is sticking our nose someplace where it doesn't belong? And that's unrealistic? Really?!?!

FWIW, I was a major nitpicker of 24. The only reason I continued to watch episode after episode was because I like to see things through to the end. At least until the last 6 or so episodes last year when I couldn't take it anymore. I learned to live with the magical PDA, moles in every branch of the govt, impossible physical acts, etc. What I didn't like was the implausibility of some of the characters actions. People in situations that just did things that were inconsistent with their character or without any reasonable semblance of thought. And you know what? This has been my favorite season in a long time. I like the low key Jack. I don't believe the science of the Genesis Device or whatever the thing is called, but I chalk that up to 24. Criticizing the president for making a stupid foreign policy decision that's obvious to the common man? That's the most realistic thing about the show!