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post #181 of 875
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Re: 24: Season Seven

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This season's bodycount:

episode 1
1. Schector/Tanner
2. Ari/Tanner

episode 2
3. henchman/Renee
4. henchman/Jack and Renee

episode 3
none

episode 4
5. Morgan/Emerson
6. security guard/Emerson
7. security guard/Tony
episode 5
none

I'm sure I'll be nearly alone in this opinion but I like that Jack hasn't killed 30 people yet. I've seen him kill people in nearly every way possible so seeing him use his wits over his gun is a nice change. That being said, I'm sure they're building up to Jack killing a whole bunch of people (along with the building up the story) but I like if they try to 'earn' that action this year.

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post #182 of 875

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I was wondering why Renee didn't play dead when Tony was helping Jack bury her. She couldn't know for sure that Tony was in on it with Jack.
post #183 of 875

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I'm OK with the lack of killing as well.

I also seem to be accepting the president -- at least for this past episode.

The eyeroll moment for me is the First Husband gets "proof" from his dead son's girlfriend that the son didn't commit suicide, and he thinks it is a good idea to keep it from his wife. Thus he can be killed, and the only person with any inkling at this point is the girlfriend, and she may not be long for this world, either. They've made out that the guy is perhaps a little weak, but I really don't like it when TV shows have reasonably intelligent people do really unintelligent things for plot convenience. Sure intelligent people do stupid things all the time, but it's usually due to laziness, stress, lack of information, etc. The First Husband just calmly decided his wife didn't need to know yet.
post #184 of 875

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If Walker was paying attention, she got confirmation that there's a "source" at the FBI that is not Jack. But maybe she was still seething after Jack put his hands on her.

In that situation, it looks like Renee will suffocate quickly. The show even ended with the silent clock....

They've upped the office romance quotient even higher.

Don't care about the B plot unless it involves Carly Pope getting undressed again somehow.

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it seems like in light of the heat "24" got for the last season, they may be overcompensating in the P.C. dept. Especially with how "bad" they are making torture seem.
Yes, but are they doing a lousy job on purpose? They have whatshisname say that the info may not be reliable. But of course we know that it is reliable -- she's driving there as they speak. If they really wanted to illustrate the other point, they would have their insta-torture actually produce bad info, and then have the characters deal with the consequences.
post #185 of 875

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Another enjoyable episode last night.
My thoughts...

The President going through with the invasion makes no sense.
"A generation of Samolowhatevers are going to die".
Yea, does the family of the father flying up in the plane that could come crashing down care?
This is so obviously tied to last year's Darfur stuff.
All they have to is pull the invasion and say that this other faction has declared war on the US and that is what we are worried about.

Don't get me started on the "magic box" WTF device that apparently can do anything.

Killing the President's son and then husband? In a span of a few months? Who is orchestrating this, the actual 22 year old security guard guy?
How dumb can you be (or do they think we are).
I would guess someone would catch wind of something else going on and turn over a few rocks.
That is a super reach, even for 24.
Hmmm, these lifelong politicians with white as snow backgrounds all of a sudden start to commit suicide after the wife becomes President.
Yea, nothing odd is going on there.

All they had to do was firebomb the hot girlfriend's apartment (with her in it) and it would never come to this.

The biggest head scratcher, with the egg in the basket, the mission is a total success, they have the political guy they risked their lives to get. He is in custody with his wife. They need to get him to the safehouse as quickly as possible...

And he insists that they stop, get out shovels, and start digging??????

Are you kidding me?

Even Jack seemed perplexed.
post #186 of 875

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And he insists that they stop, get out shovels, and start digging??????

In addition to the eyeroll moment I described above, I had another one here. It is nothing that would take me out of enjoying the show, though.
post #187 of 875
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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller
Hmmm, these lifelong politicians with white as snow backgrounds all of a sudden start to commit suicide after the wife becomes President.
Yea, nothing odd is going on there.
I agree it's a stretch but it is a murder/suicide that they're orchestrating (rather than just "Oh, now you're husband has committed suicide too"). The Secret Service agent will be the only person left to talk about the First Gentleman's state of mind and back the story up that he was going to confront her over her involvement in his son's death.

More than anything, they should be worried about the drug they gave him since there'd be a very thorough autopsy on him. Of course, I'm sure they'll cheat that next week by saying that it leaves the blood quick enough to not leave any traces.
post #188 of 875

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I have a sneaky feeling Mr. Storm of the Century (First Dude) will survive somehow.
It also is a reach to think the First Husband would be traveling with one agent.
I don't care how secret he wants to make it.
Can you see Laura Bush out shopping with some young blonde kid with a bluetooth headset?

Another minor eye roll for me...
The head FBI guy's acting.
When make up girl/FBI agent that Jack captured is missing, can he make it anymore obvious that he is upset.
I swear I half expected him to break down on the floor with a handkerchief, sobbing.
This is supposed to be a professional in a time of terrorist crisis?
If he is really that upset, he should excuse himself and step down.
Unless he is the mole, I guess.
post #189 of 875

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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller
The head FBI guy's acting....Unless he is the mole, I guess.
That message about Walker should have made him figure out that they have a mole in their office.
post #190 of 875

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Originally Posted by Ken Chan
Yes, but are they doing a lousy job on purpose? They have whatshisname say that the info may not be reliable. But of course we know that it is reliable -- she's driving there as they speak. If they really wanted to illustrate the other point, they would have their insta-torture actually produce bad info, and then have the characters deal with the consequences.
Exactly, so far all of the torture is resulting in golden information while those seeking to punish the torturers are adding nothing but bureaucratic drag to the resolution of the national and global security crises.

As an aside, this was the first episode I had the opportunity to watch in hi-def this season, and I must say that Agent Walker has some cute freckles.

Regards,
post #191 of 875

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Originally Posted by Ken Chan
In that situation, it looks like Renee will suffocate quickly. The show even ended with the silent clock....
No chance she's dead.
post #192 of 875

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Originally Posted by Ken_McAlinden
Exactly, so far all of the torture is resulting in golden information while those seeking to punish the torturers are adding nothing but bureaucratic drag to the resolution of the national and global security crises.

As an aside, this was the first episode I had the opportunity to watch in hi-def this season, and I must say that Agent Walker has some cute freckles.

Regards,

Oh, yes indeed. She's the main reason I'm watching right now. I guess after six years I just can't really get into this show too much anymore.
post #193 of 875

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Hmmmm...

First of all, suckage to FOX for running promos during the NFL and HOUSE that showed spoilers for THE WRONG EPISODE!!!! The stuff they showed did NOT happen tonight. Idiots.

Second, man this fell like a filler episode. Romantic triangles?? The office of the AG flexing their muscles?? Booooooooring.

Sorry for the interruption - let's get back to the action. Maybe that's why FOX screwed up? They did promos for an episode where stuff happens!
post #194 of 875

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No chance she's dead
I agree -- just noting when the writers pull their usual story levers.
post #195 of 875

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First of all, suckage to FOX for running promos during the NFL and HOUSE that showed spoilers for THE WRONG EPISODE!!!! The stuff they showed did NOT happen tonight. Idiots.

Yeah, that really pissed me off too.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
They show repeatedly a trailer of him in the White House talking to the president saying "Ask Around..." kind of sucks a lot of drama out of this weeks when you see Tony, Jack, Bill, et al in the Oval Office..
post #196 of 875

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Originally Posted by TravisR
What?

The last time we saw Chloe's car (last season) it had a bomb in it.

Maybe she sent her ex-husband to go and get it.
post #197 of 875

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The eye-rolling quotient seems even higher this year, but that is part of the fun for me.

What is the character in the FBI office named, the one who got his wife's plane landed early.

He looks like a 1950s TV FBI agent, so I'm REALLY suspicious of him
post #198 of 875

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That's Hillinger.
post #199 of 875

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Slow episode. I don't think agent Walker will die.

Hope the pace picks up a little bit next week.
post #200 of 875

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Originally Posted by John Watson
The eye-rolling quotient seems even higher this year, but that is part of the fun for me.

What is the character in the FBI office named, the one who got his wife's plane landed early.

He looks like a 1950s TV FBI agent, so I'm REALLY suspicious of him

Billy Walsh.
post #201 of 875
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Re: 24: Season Seven

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Originally Posted by Charlie Campisi
Billy Walsh.
I keep waiting for him to call his boss a "suit".
post #202 of 875

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I'm still having trouble getting used to the guy playing an FBI computer geek after watching him on Entourage.
post #203 of 875

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Originally Posted by Jon Martin
I've been doing a lot of eye rolling as well this season.

I can understand some of the complaints, but I guess maybe I'm just willing to suspend disbelief and enjoy 24 for what it is.

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I can see why TWO AND A HALF MEN is beating it in the ratings.

I never understood how that show lasted more than two episodes. I'd rather be dipped in molten lava than even see the ads for it!! Each to his own, I guess
post #204 of 875

Re: 24: Season Seven

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Jack's kills are really low this time around.

Most of the folks that Jack has been shooting at have been good guys. I don't think he wanted to hit any FBI personnel when he sprung Tony and didn't want to add to the carnage when snatching the Prime Minister.

I did like the way he shot Renee by grazing her neck, which also caused her to fall foward. That was a good shot.

I'm sure Jack will be back in form once his targets are bad guys or pose a real threat to him.
post #205 of 875

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Originally Posted by Dave Gorman
I can understand some of the complaints, but I guess maybe I'm just willing to suspend disbelief and enjoy 24 for what it is.


Exactly. People who are "eye rolling" about this season should go watch a different show. 24 isn't reality, folks and it hasn't been since season 1. It's supposed to be like an action movie for TV and if it was rooted in 100% realism it would be boring as hell. I guess people will always find something to complain about.
post #206 of 875

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It's not a requirement to overlook everything in a show just because you like it. Telling fans of the show who don't overlook everything to go watch something else is unwarranted. Our reaction is just as valid as your own.
post #207 of 875

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
It's not a requirement to overlook everything in a show just because you like it. Telling fans of the show who don't overlook everything to go watch something else is unwarranted. Our reaction is just as valid as your own.


This happens EVERY season with 24, though, and it gets a little old. I'm not saying people can't complain about the show....hell, I complained more than anyone about S6 and how bad it was. It's just the complaints about the show not being realistic are pretty ridiculous because it never has been and never will be.
post #208 of 875

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A post and a poster were just removed from this thread. I thought I was clear on the previous page, but to repeat with emphasis:

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I'm sure I saw a request from the forum's owner to leave politics out of this thread. Like a good commander, Ron makes requests, and then he leaves it to us to elevate the threat level. So, please, leave the left/right, red/blue, liberal/conservative comments, oppositions, analogies, etc. at the door, along with comments on any individual's political views. Thank you, one and all.
"Individual's political views" should be read broadly to include people who appear in the show (such as Janeane Garofalo) or people who are reportedly fans of the show and otherwise wouldn't be mentioned here (such as a certain conservative radio personality).

This warning won't be repeated. People who don't heed it will no longer be part of the 24 discussion. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
post #209 of 875

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I know its just started, but the way this show treats adrenaline, I half expect whenever they do a series finale that they'll inject a syringe of adrenaline into Teri and she'll wake up.
post #210 of 875
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Re: 24: Season Seven

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This season's bodycount:

episode 1
1. Schector/Tanner
2. Ari/Tanner

episode 2
3. henchman/Renee
4. henchman/Jack and Renee

episode 3
none

episode 4
5. Morgan/Emerson
6. security guard/Emerson
7. security guard/Tony

episode 5
none
episode 6
8. Litvak/Tony
9. Emerson/Tony
250 people on Flight 131, 21 people on the commuter jet, the casualties on the ground/Dubaku
10. Samantha/Gedge
11. Nichols' man/Jack
12. Nichols' man/Tony
13. Gedge/Henry

The show is moving slower than usual but I'm still digging that 'slow' movement. There's one basic villain and situation (rather than last year when there had probably been 4 catastrophes in 6 episodes) and that story keeps moving forward.

Next week looks like a big action episode and I love that they've got Jack, Tony, Chloe, Buchanan and Renee all on one 'secret' team.
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